5th TNG film & Picard (series)

[Admiral Jean-Luc Picard]

I am in the vast minority that really enjoyed Nemesis. That being said, the plan for a follow up movie was Brent Spiner's "Justice League of Trek" which used time travel to unite all available goodies with all available baddies as the rivals. It probably would have tied into Enterprise's temporal cold war. Data's beamed away a second before being blown up. I don't think it would have scratched anyone's TNG itch.

I liked Picard season 1 a lot, despite a very flat ending. It took someone we knew and put them in a new context. It had repercussions, it had consequences.

Season 2 was a mess.

Season 3 was Star Trek: The Next Generation: Fanwank Explosion. It undid everything about season 1 that it possibly could, brought everyone back in the most ridiculous and over the top manner possible. If JJ Abrams had his Enterprise fly though a Borg cube people would still be making rage posts, but because it's the Enterprise-D it gets a pass
It was a lot of fun, but I'm glad we've all moved on.

Someone who likes Nemesis, PIC S1, thought PIC S2 was a mess, and thought PIC S3 was too fanwanky. Gold star for you, Kind Sir.

 

[Frontis]

I just wanted Tasha to come back

 

[Admiral Jean-Luc Picard]

I just wanted Tasha to come back

She technically did as a hologram held by digital Data before digital Lore in that digital white void, for like a few seconds, I forget which episode.

 

[Set Harth]

Its why I despise Generations, ruining the end of TUC.

I don't get that at all.

 

[Admiral Jean-Luc Picard]

I don't get that at all.

He doesn't like that Kirk was killed off (zapped into the Nexus) just months after TUC.

 

[Lord Garth]

There was nothing specific I was looking for with Picard Season 3. Only a better ending than Nemesis, which felt like a funeral. As a piece of entertainment, I enjoyed PIC S3 a lot more than NEM.

Vadik was a far more entertaining villain than Shinzon. I liked Amanda Plummer as an actor ever since Pulp Fiction.

The Borg Queen, I didn't mind that she was back, but I wasn't specifically looking for that. In fairness, she was Picard's enemy before she was Janeway's. And the Borg messed up Picard's life a lot more than Janeway's, so she was ultimately his villain to defeat. That's how I look at it.

Had there been a fifth TNG Movie in the '00s, I know Data would've been brought back somehow, so I don't take issue with that either. It's what would've happened anyway.

The Dominion were addressed the way I'd have expected them to have been addressed if they'd been in a TNG Movie: we only see the Changelings. They're the easiest part of the Dominion to understand, "It's a shape-shifter!", so that makes them more accessible to anyone who didn't watch DS9. The Dominion were mentioned in Insurrection and Nemesis. Had the TNG Movies continued, we would've seen some part of them eventually.

EDITED TO ADD: One more thing. Thanks to Picard Season 1, I'd been wondering what happened to Beverly Crusher. She was the only TNG main character not mentioned in PIC Season 1. Not including Wesley. Her lack of mention, when everyone else was, left me curious. That Picard went to his Chief Medical Officer from the Stargazer instead of her made me even more curious. I wondered, "What's going on? What happened to her?" In my TrekBBS posts at the time, I said that I thought she was dead.

I'm glad PIC Season 3 finally gave an answer as to what happened.

 

[Lord Garth]

I didn't like Picard S1 or S2, but was an absolutely huge fan of S3.

I would love to see a fanedit that turns it into a movie, a pair of movies, or a trilogy of movies to run after Nemesis.

I could see it as either two three-hour movies or three two-hour movies. It all comes down to where the stopping points would be and what would make for the best cliffhanger(s).

The easiest would be three movies where the first two are three hours and the last one is slightly shorter with two. Episodes 1-4 would be TNG V, Episodes 5-8 would be TNG VI, and Episodes 9-10 would be TNG VII. No fuss, no muss.

I'd just prefer to think of Picard Season 3 as if it's like the length of the Lord of the Rings Trilogy combined into one with most of the Deleted Scenes added in. Off-Topic, but isn't there some cut of LOTR out there like that?

 

[Phoenix219]

I could see it as either two three-hour movies or three two-hour movies. It all comes down to where the stopping points would be and what would make for the best cliffhanger(s).

The easiest would be three movies where the first two are three hours and the last one is slightly shorter with two. Episodes 1-4 would be TNG V, Episodes 5-8 would be TNG VI, and Episodes 9-10 would be TNG VII. No fuss, no muss.

I'd just prefer to think of Picard Season 3 as if it's like the length of the Lord of the Rings Trilogy combined into one with most of the Deleted Scenes added in. Off-Topic, but isn't there some cut of LOTR out there like that?

i woudln't mind some streamlining to make 2-3 movies, but still am unsure where to end each movie.

 

[Lord Garth]

i woudln't mind some streamlining to make 2-3 movies, but still am unsure where to end each movie.

If it's two movies, I'd end it with the reveal of Data at the Daystrom Station. This way all seven of the TNG Cast are seen. And the cliffhanger is "Data's back!"

 

[Phoenix219]

that definitely makes a bit of sense - remind me, what would climax action be leading up to that point? Definitely a good reveal, though. (although it was the Kirk/G2 easter egg that had me losing it lmao)

 

[Lord Garth]

that definitely makes a bit of sense - remind me, what would climax action be leading up to that point? Definitely a good reveal, though. (although it was the Kirk/G2 easter egg that had me losing it lmao)

Now that I'm thinking about it, that doesn't work as a cliffhanger as well as I thought it would. The action leading up to Data's discovery is the Titan escaping to Daystrom Station before they're attacked by a Changeling-infested Starfleet ship, but there's no actual battle yet. After Data's discovered, then Vadic catches up with the Titan. They have to get out of there, Riker stays behind, and he's captured. Vadic wants to know where the Titan is going, he won't tell her and says he won't betray Picard, then he finds out that Vadic captured Troi as well. To Be Continued! Riker's capture works much better as a cliffhanger.

That way Data's on the Titan, but he's not fully Data yet, mirroring how Spock returned in TSFS. At end of TSFS, he was back, but still not back back yet, if that makes sense. And now, all seven of the cast are actively involved in the plot. Including Troi, since she's no longer on the sidelines.