2015-2016 NBA Season Discussion

[Ar-Pharazon]

It's looking like Westbrook won't return to OKC either.

What kind of team will they be? Who's left?


I'm not really a BB fan, but the hometown Bulls went from trainwreck to a worse trainwreck. -Rose, -Noah, -Gasol, but +Rondo.

Pax, Gar and Hoiberg will all have to go before the team has any chance.

 

[gblews]

Lakers fans must be getting pissed abo222ut Durant going to Warriors.

And why would that be? Many Lakers fans I know rooted for the Dubs in the Finals. If you're referring to the Durant not choosing the Lakers, well only the sportswriters and ill informed fans thought there was any possibility of that happening. Besides, I suspect it is Celtics fans are a lot more upset since you guys got teased a little bit. Or, maybe this is something else about which you are unaware.

Way more unbalancing then the Paul trade would have been and yet no sign NBA is going to stop it. Turns out NBA doesn't care about balance, they were just spiting LA.

The NBA does not "own" the Warriors as they did the Pelicans at the time. Further, this wasn't a trade, or a trade involving a team the NBA owns, so the only thing the NBA can do is, I don't know, disapprove Durant's contract? It's called FREE Agency for a reason. You really have no idea of what you're talking about, do you? Boston fans...

But you are right about the league's feelings about the Lakers under Stern, that is. In fact, the league's fear of the Lakers was so great that they not only stopped the CP3 trade, large chunks of the new CBA were written specifically with the Lakers in mind. So you're finally right about something, Under the Stern regime, the league did appear to have it in fir the Lakers -- and with good reason. The other franchises, they just didn't care that much about. Fortunately, the Stern era is over.

I'm a warriors fan and I'm finding myself uncomfortable with the KD signing. How is it beneficial to the league as a whole when you have 3 good teams and no one has a chance. I was kinda hoping KD would go to Boston and maybe give Cleveland a challenge. The NBA might be hard to watch next year.

The NBA is really different from the NFL. NB A fans follow stars, no matter where they go. I don't mean OKC fans are going to become Dubs' fans, just that if the Warriors make it to the Finals again, especially if they again face the Cavs, (quite possible in the weak east), it will likely set new records for ratings, just as the last one did.

I don't understand any argument to block the Paul trade that doesn't apply double to this crap. NBA owes an explanation for why they are allowing this.

See above and try to get a clue next time before posting.

 

[JirinPanthosa]

Okay, you know, I didn't know the reason they could block the trade was because they owned the Warriors but you don't need to be an asshole and insult me. All you had to do was correct my information. Reported.

Next NBA season will be unbalanced and boring because of the trade. If the NBA can't do anything about balance maybe they should be able to just for the quality of their product.

 

[Alidar Jarok]

Lakers fans must be getting pissed about Durant going to Warriors. Way more unbalancing then the Paul trade would have been and yet no sign NBA is going to stop it.

Turns out NBA doesn't care about balance, they were just spiting LA.

NBA will be boring next year now. I'll follow how the Celts do with Horford and that's it. Besides my home team I can't see myself giving a crap about the most dominated season in history.

The concern wasn't about making the league unbalanced, it was a concern that the Lakers were fleecing a team the league owned and wanted to sell (so they didn't want to hurt their resale value). That being said, I legitimately thought the Sixers-Kings trade (the one where we got Stauskas plus a right to swap picks plus a pick outright) would get nixed because it was a pretty unbalanced trade too. It just doesn't have the same issues of league ownership.

Best I can tell, this is a straight signing, but, if it's not, it's a sign and trade for salary cap reasons. I don't think the NBA has ever scrutinized free agent signings and sign and trades are basically the same thing (as long as the salaries line up).

Anyway, I miss the days when a player would try to beat their rival rather than join them. I thought this might be the case considering how close the Thunder got and how heated and hostile that series got. But it'll be certainly an interesting season next season. This is definitely the era of superteams.

 

[gblews]

The concern wasn't about making the league unbalanced, it was a concern that the Lakers were fleecing a team the league owned and wanted to sell (so they didn't want to hurt their resale value).

Nope, what you describe is the story the league told the public -- you remember; "basketball reasons"? This story didn't ring true because the Stern was sent letters by, to name just two, Marc Cuban and Dan Gilbert, owners of the Mavs and Cavs respectively. They both complained about the Lakers being allowed to rebuild by acquiring CP3 and trading Odom and Gasol. Gilbert's letter wondered how long the Lakers would be allowed to make the rest of the league look like the 'Washington Generals" (the Trotters perennially hapless old foe). Cuban brought up the fact that the new CBA was written partially to stop' this type of transaction', (read: Lakers' making easy trades to rebuild quickly). Stern caved to the pressure from other owners.

BTW, the trade Stern then manufactured with the Clips was a monumental bust for the Pels, who would have been much better off with Odom and Gasol. The NBA under Stern, especially, didn't care about balance in the league. Stern only cared about the Lakers not becoming good again too soon. That is partly because the new (anti-Lakers) CBA had just been put into affect.

Consider this, if the CP3 trade had gone through and if other things had fallen into place, like previously "iron man" Kobe not getting her, the Lakers would have lined up CP3, (old, but healthy) Kobe, and prime Dwight Howard. no wonder Cuban and Gilbert wrote those letters.

 

[gblews]

Okay, you know, I didn't know the reason they could block the trade was because they owned the Warriors but you don't need to be an asshole and insult me.

Then, as I said, get a clue before posting.

 

[the 4th hanson bro]

Then, as I said, get a clue before posting.

Okay, you know, I didn't know the reason they could block the trade was because they owned the Warriors but you don't need to be an asshole and insult me. All you had to do was correct my information.

Then, as I said, get a clue before posting.

And you both get an infraction. @gblews for trolling; @JirinPanthosa for flaming.

Any and all comments to PM.

 

[the 4th hanson bro]

Feel free to start an offseason discussion thread to carry on the discussion.