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Spoilers Una's future

But surely in the other timeline he would have done everything possible and that didn’t work.
Only difference now is that he’s aware of James Kirk. Maybe he’ll ask him to do one of his epic speeches and that will convince Starfleet to let her go.
No, he also knows that she received a totally unreasonable sentence of not being able to contact anyone at all on the outside. That's a ridiculous sentence that we don't even apply to serial killers!

Original Pike wouldn't know the sentence. Our Pike does and will undoubtedly take actions before the trial.
 
The fact that Kirk is here at all irks me. Not because I'm anti-Kirk but because I'm wanting as much of Pike and Spock as possible before Kirk kicks Pike out "because Star Trek. "
Geez, yeah. Kirk, and TOS Kirk in particular, is my favorite ST captain. But I've got the TOS blu rays and can watch Kirk anytime. This is SNW's time to shine. I'd rather have no Kirk in SNW to be honest--unless it's like season 7 and they're doing the handoff.
 
Geez, yeah. Kirk, and TOS Kirk in particular, is my favorite ST captain. But I've got the TOS blu rays and can watch Kirk anytime. This is SNW's time to shine. I'd rather have no Kirk in SNW to be honest--unless it's like season 7 and they're doing the handoff.
Here's an idea they skip TOS and go right to the movie era with a Kirk show set between TMP and TWOK. They already have a monster maroon design, ;)
 
I wouldn't be thrilled about S31 appearing, but if they took her to develop an ideal, augmented soldier, it could explain the isolation.
I would enjoy that a lot.
Geez, yeah. Kirk, and TOS Kirk in particular, is my favorite ST captain. But I've got the TOS blu rays and can watch Kirk anytime. This is SNW's time to shine. I'd rather have no Kirk in SNW to be honest--unless it's like season 7 and they're doing the handoff.
Kirk is my third favorite, behind Robau, and Pike (even before SNW). I don't mind how he has been presented here but I prefer less than more. And Season 2 is on thin ice now.
 
Here's an idea they skip TOS and go right to the movie era with a Kirk show set between TMP and TWOK. They already have a monster maroon design, ;)
My druthers would be that the next series takes place in the 25th century just after Picard S3 and other series start working forward from there--relatively unencumbered by canon.

I'm not opposed to other ideas, and there are certainly reasons for interest with the time period you mention. But I'd rather go forward with new ships, new crews, and not being tied down too much by what they can and can't do because of the time period.

Kirk is my third favorite, behind Robau, and Pike (even before SNW). I don't mind how he has been presented here but I prefer less than more. And Season 2 is on thin ice now.
The Cage was always one of my favorite episodes and a key ingredient of that is Pike. So, I've liked him from the start. He was also a key part of my favorite season of Discovery.

I'll be honest, I didn't like Wesley as Kirk much at all. While I never wanted a lot of Kirk in SNW, I didn't mind the idea too much. However, after seeing him in Quality of Mercy, I'm now kind of dreading it for season 2.
 
I'll be honest, I didn't like Wesley as Kirk much at all. While I never wanted a lot of Kirk in SNW, I didn't mind the idea too much. However, after seeing him in Quality of Mercy, I'm now kind of dreading it for season 2.
Which, oddly, inspires me more. I think the more people build up the dread, the hatred, the negativity, the better Wesley will do.
 
Which, oddly, inspires me more. I think the more people build up the dread, the hatred, the negativity, the better Wesley will do.
Glad you're inspired. Although, obviously my perception, as well as everyone else's, will have no bearing on his performance. So, I'm sure there's no rational reason to feel inspired.

Of course, I'll happily give him a chance. I want him to do well.

Time will tell and, as always, the proof will be in the pudding.
 
Glad you're inspired. Although, obviously my perception, as well as everyone else's, will have no bearing on his performance. So, I'm sure there's no rational
Anyone who gets that much hate gets a break from me. I always will favor the underdog and the less popular in my fiction.
 
No, he also knows that she received a totally unreasonable sentence of not being able to contact anyone at all on the outside. That's a ridiculous sentence that we don't even apply to serial killers!

Original Pike wouldn't know the sentence. Our Pike does and will undoubtedly take actions before the trial.

We don't know that this sentence is directly because of the augment thing. She could have gotten off with some probation and then had the extreme sentence because of something else.

Either way it is kind of annoying because DS9 established that Starfleet are still a bunch of anti-science bigots a century later.
 
We don't know that this sentence is directly because of the augment thing. She could have gotten off with some probation and then had the extreme sentence because of something else.
Both La'an and Spock say Una's doing time because of her "deception" with Spock adding he thought Pike was always aware of her secret. Which would certainly suggest her sentence is because she's an augment.
 
The only wild card factor is James Kirk, who Pike is now aware of 7 years before they meet in the bad future timeline. Well, that and Pike now knows what Romulans look like years before anyone else in the Fed.
Yeah, I feel like the timeline is completely screwed at this point and the show just isn't in the same universe anymore. Shame, because I was enjoying it, until I realized its just Mirror Universe 3.0 (I say 3.0 instead of 2.0, because Pikard already did the 2.0 thing with their 'dark future' stuff).
 
I'll be honest, I didn't like Wesley as Kirk much at all. While I never wanted a lot of Kirk in SNW, I didn't mind the idea too much. However, after seeing him in Quality of Mercy, I'm now kind of dreading it for season 2.
He's going to be the younger version, the one who hasn't lived that alternate reality. So hopefully he'll be more fun. Hopefully...
 
Both La'an and Spock say Una's doing time because of her "deception" with Spock adding he thought Pike was always aware of her secret. Which would certainly suggest her sentence is because she's an augment.
I liked how he didn't confirm or deny Spock's assumption either. Maintain plausible deniability. Which he'll have to do in prime U as well, if he has any hope of helping her. Otherwise, I assume he'd be up on charges himself.

This is going to be exciting!
 
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