Yo No! - Jon Cu to direct GI Joe 2

[Grid-Sec]

http://www.deadline.com/2011/02/paramount-drafts-jon-chu-for-g-i-joe-2/

Why dont we as the people who go see these movies ever have the say in who's directing? I refuse to see this merely because you KNOW the Bieber will have a role in it. Perhaps that's what Cu promised Paramount as a way to guarantee 100 mil at the box office to get the job.

This is the case of a company seeing dollar signs instead of a quality product. Most of the time they try to balance both, but this case it's all about the money. Let's not forget, this is the Jon 'Step Up' Chu dude. Wow. Way to go Paramount! Makes me fear who they'll get to direct the Star Trek sequel.

 

[T'Baio]

Umm...

 

[Professor Zoom]

http://www.deadline.com/2011/02/paramount-drafts-jon-chu-for-g-i-joe-2/

Why dont we as the people who go see these movies ever have the say in who's directing? I refuse to see this merely because you KNOW the Bieber will have a role in it. Perhaps that's what Cu promised Paramount as a way to guarantee 100 mil at the box office to get the job.

This is the case of a company seeing dollar signs instead of a quality product. Most of the time they try to balance both, but this case it's all about the money. Let's not forget, this is the Jon 'Step Up' Chu dude. Wow. Way to go Paramount! Makes me fear who they'll get to direct the Star Trek sequel.

Wait. Did you see the first one? It was all about dollar signs.

And, seriously? You DID see the first one, it wasn't like it was a work of art that can't be touched. It was a movie that was generically written, generically acted, and generically directed. Who cares who directs it?

And cannot believe ANYONE is seriously up in arms about this.

Star Trek is already in pre-production with Bad Robot and Paramount, they want Abrams to direct it again. Why? He reinvigorated a franchise that made a LOT of money that a LOT of people liked.

Summers directed GI Joe... that kinda made its money back that kinda some people liked... It wasn't a blockbuster.

 

[Grid-Sec]

Im all up in arms because they arent even gonna try to fix what was wrong in the first one. If anything, this sequel is gonna fall into Batman & Robin categories. At least the first one TRIED to remain true to the spirit of Gi-Joe while updating it at the same time. Snake Eyes was awesome. So was Storm Shadow. I think those were the best parts of the movies. I do agree they completely ruined Cobra Commander. I was hoping at least they were gonna ammend that in the sequel with a new director. Now, my hopes are below low for a proper sequel. Also, didn't Abrams say he didnt want to direct(Star Trek), just produce the next sequel? (ala Star Wars?)

 

[Admiral_Young]

What was wrong with the first G.I. Joe movie? I thought it was what it was. It was even subtitled correctly "The Rise of Cobra". It depicted exactly that. I enjoyed it despite the flaws and mindless action, if you were expecting some kind of plot to it or something then you expected the wrong kind of movie. The thing that was done with the G.I. Joe movie was exactly what they did with Transformers. As for the director...I don't follow the original posters logic that just because he directed the Bieber bio pic that Bieber will be in this movie.

 

[Too Much Fun]

The last I heard, the movie was being written by the same guys who wrote "Zombieland", which was a solid movie and much better written than "The Rise of Cobra" (a movie by writers who don't have the best track record). I think good writing can overcome lackluster direction. They can get a broom to direct it for all I care, as long as the writing is okay. I think with better writers, the movie will improve on the first, regardless of who is directing.

 

[Gaith]

This is the case of a company seeing dollar signs instead of a quality product.

We are talking about GI Joe, right?!

[Please note: the following is not directed at any one poster.]

I don't know about anyone else, but I got sick of people bitching about the GI Joe and Transformers movies about five minutes after it started. I'm usually polite enough to bite my tongue, but now and again I feel compelled to point out, for the greater good, that both those cartoon shows were processed crapfests made for the sole purpose of bilking undiscerning children, and that seeing grown adults bitching about their adaptations implies (whether fairly or unfairly) volumes about their maturity and intellectual depth. I know that boards such as these are a place to celebrate and indulge our inner fanboys, but still... some sense of perspective, friends, some sense of perspective is all I suggest.


Hugs,
Gaith

 

[C.E. Evans]

This is the case of a company seeing dollar signs instead of a quality product.

We are talking about GI Joe, right?!

[Please note: the following is not directed at any one poster.]

I don't know about anyone else, but I got sick of people bitching about the GI Joe and Transformers movies about five minutes after it started. I'm usually polite enough to bite my tongue, but now and again I feel compelled to point out, for the greater good, that both those cartoon shows were processed crapfests made for the sole purpose of bilking undiscerning children, and that seeing grown adults bitching about their adaptations implies (whether fairly or unfairly) volumes about their maturity and intellectual depth. I know that boards such as these are a place to celebrate and indulge our inner fanboys, but still... some sense of perspective, friends, some sense of perspective is all I suggest.


Hugs,
Gaith

And never a truer word ever spoken.

 

[Admiral2]

This is the case of a company seeing dollar signs instead of a quality product.

We are talking about GI Joe, right?!

[Please note: the following is not directed at any one poster.]

I don't know about anyone else, but I got sick of people bitching about the GI Joe and Transformers movies about five minutes after it started. I'm usually polite enough to bite my tongue, but now and again I feel compelled to point out, for the greater good, that both those cartoon shows were processed crapfests made for the sole purpose of bilking undiscerning children, and that seeing grown adults bitching about their adaptations implies (whether fairly or unfairly) volumes about their maturity and intellectual depth. I know that boards such as these are a place to celebrate and indulge our inner fanboys, but still... some sense of perspective, friends, some sense of perspective is all I suggest.


Hugs,
Gaith

And never a truer word ever spoken.

Fine.

Here's my perspective.

The country I was born in guarantees me the right to state whatever opinion I please...without having to give a shit what you two think about.

Are the opinions inconsequential in the grand scheme of the world? Absolutely. Do they speak volumes about how often I spend revisiting my childhood? Possibly.

Is any of that your problem?

No.

That said, hang tough, OP. Scream it if you like.

 

[captcalhoun]

it certainly doesn't inspire a great deal of confidence in the film at this early stage. RoC was a decent movie - even if it was essentially a Bond movie with 5 guys and a girl in place of Bond - but having a director who's best known credits are 2 street-dancing films and some crappy flick about a singing foetus doesn't make me confident of the sequel being much cop.

and yes, i know it's just a movie to sell more toys.

 

[Gaith]

That said, hang tough, OP. Scream it if you like.

It's one thing to scream it. It's another thing to say the studio is only interested in money rather than quality, when talking about an adaptation of a kids' cartoon show that was designed to sell the action figure line which preceded it. So scream away, by all means, but at least have a sense of perspective and/or humor about it.

 

[C.E. Evans]

We are talking about GI Joe, right?!

[Please note: the following is not directed at any one poster.]

I don't know about anyone else, but I got sick of people bitching about the GI Joe and Transformers movies about five minutes after it started. I'm usually polite enough to bite my tongue, but now and again I feel compelled to point out, for the greater good, that both those cartoon shows were processed crapfests made for the sole purpose of bilking undiscerning children, and that seeing grown adults bitching about their adaptations implies (whether fairly or unfairly) volumes about their maturity and intellectual depth. I know that boards such as these are a place to celebrate and indulge our inner fanboys, but still... some sense of perspective, friends, some sense of perspective is all I suggest.


Hugs,
Gaith

And never a truer word ever spoken.

Fine.

Here's my perspective.

The country I was born in guarantees me the right to state whatever opinion I please...without having to give a shit what you two think about.

Are the opinions inconsequential in the grand scheme of the world? Absolutely. Do they speak volumes about how often I spend revisiting my childhood? Possibly.

Is any of that your problem?

No.

Waah. Cry me a fucking river...

 

[Admiral_Young]

Is there possibly any chance of someone NOT being able to insult Justin Bieber when bringing him up? I don't think so, at least it seems like that.

 

[Gaith]

Is there possibly any chance of someone NOT being able to insult Justin Bieber when bringing him up? I don't think so, at least it seems like that.

Clearly, it's more important in the cosmic scale of things to diss the Bieber than to know who's writing the movie you're so concerned about.

 

[Admiral_Young]

I hope that was a general "you're" because I really could care less about this movie lol.

 

[Caliburn24]

I would have preferred to see the other finalist F. Gary Gray get the job, but Chu's experience with 3D and the near certainty that the sequel will be in 3D seems to have tipped the scales in his favor.

Having never seen anything Chu has directed all I can see is one giant question mark hanging over the movie.

A Joe v. Cobra dance-off finale perhaps?

 

[Admiral_Young]

I think that will be something we will see. The first movie was essentially an origin (there is no need for a prequel now ) featuring the formation of G.I. Joe and Cobra. Now that they're both established I would assume that we'll see a more traditional Joe story.

 

[TemporalFlux]

Looking at the hoopla in this thread, you would think someone hired Roman Polanski to direct a Rainbow Brite movie.

 

[Too Much Fun]

Come on guys, let's not be so mean to someone for taking "G.I. Joe" seriously. I get disappointed when people write off something that was dear to people in their childhood as crap just because it was aimed at children. I've been watching "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles" (1987-1996) recently, which I loved as a child, and I can still find cleverness and an impressive amount of entertainment value in it (even though, yes, it is often sloppy and immature).

It seems like these days most people dismiss TMNT as junk just made to market toys (and it is perhaps the only TV show to have a message like "developed in conjunction with Playmates Toys" in its credits), but just because it was marketed to kids and heavily pushing some toy line doesn't mean it was garbage with no artistic merit.

Personally I've never watched an episode of the "G.I. Joe" or "Transformers" cartoons (or if I did, they were so forgettable to me that they've been erased from my memory), but I sympathize with people who care about them and the way they're adapted to film. Also, remember that even if these properties started as toy lines, there was enough interesting detail in their characters and mythologies to inspire successful comic books.

It's like how I feel about X-Men and Batman movies and how I would feel about a new TMNT movie, because those were the three big cartoons of my childhood. They may all seem like shallow properties on the surface, but the people who look at them more closely see more, and I say good for them. If people find some substance in "Transformers" and "G.I. Joe" cartoons and this makes them wish for movies that capture some of that substance, I don't think there's anything wrong with that.

Also, regarding the "Transformers" and "G.I. Joe" movies (of which I've seen the first in each series), I thought they had a lot of potential in terms of the story lines and characters and were simply fated to be medicore at best because of lazy writing and/or horribly incoherent effects.

I liked how simple their stories were, as they were pretty much just 'group of good guys vs. group of bad guys' yarns (I actually prefer this to the convoluted stories of movies like "The Dark Knight" and "Iron Man 2"). Even without any personal stake in those franchises, I had some excitement for their sequels.

In addition to appreciating how straightforward their stories were, I also liked the uniqueness of the characters and would like to see them in a story with some intelligence, wit, and creativity. I think it's a shame that those movies have had really lame one-dimensional character development and humour. They deserve better and could be so much better.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

Why dont we as the people who go see these movies ever have the say in who's directing?

For starts: because you have neither a career nor a substantial economic investment in the product.

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