Im a huge G.I. Joe fan, as you all could probably tell. I liked the first movie. I didn't agree with the whole Globilization of the joes. G.I.Joe has been around since the fifties, and have been a huge part of American pop culture, especially when the cartoon came out in the 80s. The biggest black eye in the movie was Cobra Commander. His back story was interesting. I couldn't wait for the final reveal 'till they showed the mask. I was very ticked off! The voice was way too deep, and he wasn't slimey enough to be The Cobra Commander. I was hoping that a sequel would correct some of these flaws, but it looks like it's gonna be worse. I don't know. Mabey he'll floor me with an amazing trailer, and I'll forget his past works. All Mr. Chu has to do to convince me he's taking this seriously, is release a pic of Cobra Commander in either the Classic mirror mask, or a Hood, and Im there. I think I posted in a shocked state! lol. Im holding my breath until pics start comming from the set, though...
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Word was they didn't give him the hood in the first one because they thought it looks too much like a KKK mask. That's understandable, but I don't know why they couldn't give him the mirror mask. Would have looked a lot cooler than the stupid one they went with.
I didn't like Cobra Commander's voice at the end of the movie, but earlier as "The Doctor" it was great...such a perfect deep over-the-top Saturday morning cartoon villain voice. I have to give kudos to Joseph Gordon-Levitt for that.
I didn't like Cobra Commander's voice at the end of the movie, but earlier as "The Doctor" it was great...such a perfect deep over-the-top Saturday morning cartoon villain voice. I have to give kudos to Joseph Gordon-Levitt for that.
I believe the mirror mask was first, and the hood came later. I was so excited to finally see CC at the end, then my jaw dropped. Not in a good way, btw. lol. I just want this to be taken as seriously as X-Men, and Spider-Man were. There are as many G.I. Joe fans as the other two franchises I believe. (BTW, I mis-counted. this is my second thread! It was a long day...)
GI Joe didn't debut until 1963. that's the original 'America's moveable fighting man'.
and the Joes were international in the ARAH line, with a Brit, 2 Soviets, an Aussie, a Turk and a Canadian. and a Samoan.
and the Joes were international in the ARAH line, with a Brit, 2 Soviets, an Aussie, a Turk and a Canadian. and a Samoan.
"You can't always get what you wa-ant..."
Were GI Joes shy/awkward teenagers who often felt socially isolated but who experienced exhilaration in their alter-ego roles? Did they serve as a civil rights (and later gay) metaphor?
... Methinks you'll be waiting a long time.
You believe wrongly.
http://www.yojoe.com/
GI Joe is more popular than you might think, Gaith.
Or would you rather G.I. Joe to look like this?
http://www.youtube.com/user/jonmchu#p/u/0/BaBsbhLYLyw
I hear he's a fan. He likes the Real American Hero theme. He claims that's his era. We'll see.
GI Joe is more popular than you might think, Gaith.
Or would you rather G.I. Joe to look like this?
http://www.youtube.com/user/jonmchu#p/u/0/BaBsbhLYLyw
I hear he's a fan. He likes the Real American Hero theme. He claims that's his era. We'll see.
The G.I.Joe: The Rise of Cobra Mission Dossier suggests that Scarlett was Canadian in the movie
As for G.I. Joe being taken seriously...it was taken as serious as the Transformers movie as I believe. Hasbro has been behind the process every step of the way and very protective of the product. I disagree that Cobra Commander was ruined. I think Joseph Gordon Levitt was one of the best parts of the film. Channing Tatum though...he needs to stay away from movies period. He was not Duke.
As for G.I. Joe being taken seriously...it was taken as serious as the Transformers movie as I believe. Hasbro has been behind the process every step of the way and very protective of the product. I disagree that Cobra Commander was ruined. I think Joseph Gordon Levitt was one of the best parts of the film. Channing Tatum though...he needs to stay away from movies period. He was not Duke.
/\Not the Human form of Cobra commander. I loved his backstory, but the big reveal of the final costume was one big -dare i say- meh. His resperator mas was more reminicent of G1 CC. All they had to do was add a hood. JGL did a fantastic job going from normal man to Supervillain.
My dream cast for a Joe movie would've had Kurt Russel as Duke, and Milla Jovovich as Scarlett. Famke Jansen as Baroness, Unknowns for Storm Shadow and Snake Eyes, and relative Unknowns for characters like Heavy Duty, and Hawk. Quaid did fine in the role of Hawk, but I thought he was too young. An actor in the vein of Sam Elliot should be Hawk.
My dream cast for a Joe movie would've had Kurt Russel as Duke, and Milla Jovovich as Scarlett. Famke Jansen as Baroness, Unknowns for Storm Shadow and Snake Eyes, and relative Unknowns for characters like Heavy Duty, and Hawk. Quaid did fine in the role of Hawk, but I thought he was too young. An actor in the vein of Sam Elliot should be Hawk.
I thought there was some kind of controversy over why they didn't use the mask in the first movie?
For the action figure, yeah. But in the first issue of Marvel's G.I. Joe comic book (circa 1982), he had the hood first and then went to the mirror mask. Not sure if it was a case of the comic book ultimately inspiring an action figure, or if it was something Hasbro had in mind for the Commander from the very beginning...
Why don't they try to make the next GI Joe...I don't know, AMERICAN. Instead of some international garbage.
GI Joe is a property that's never going to have a good movie. Although I can't imagine it being worse than the garbage that was Transformers II. That was a 2 1/2 movie that felt 3 1/2 hours long.
GI Joe is a property that's never going to have a good movie. Although I can't imagine it being worse than the garbage that was Transformers II. That was a 2 1/2 movie that felt 3 1/2 hours long.
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why's it garbage for the Joe team to be international?
SOMEONE TELL ME?!
Cobra are out to RULE THE WORLD why would the world NOT join forces to combat that threat?
SOMEONE TELL ME?!
Cobra are out to RULE THE WORLD why would the world NOT join forces to combat that threat?
I'm trying not to be impolite here, but I reserve the right to call the whole concept of GI Joe and Transformers crap.
I may be partly biased, because I did have a soft spot for TMNT as a kid, but I still find the idea of teenage mutant ninja turtles, tutored by a large rat and named after Renaissance artists, to be clever, funny and endearing. And two brother friends of mine were raised by a very badass father who taught them to wrestle, exercise constantly and always be honorable, and he used the TMNT shows to reinforce that ethos. Also, the Turtles don't pack guns, which is a huge plus in my book, because while I love me some movie gunfights, I think it best to avoid having kids fall in love with gunplay until they can have some intellectual understanding of the carnage they wreak.
So no, I respectfully reject your conflation of TMNT with rubbish like GI Joe and Transformers.
As for this obsession with making the franchise an "America, fuck yeah!" vehicle... I respect the US military as much as anyone, but also don't think it appropriate to teach our kids to fetishize and worship it. Much better to raise them on the relative multiculturalism of TMNT or the X-Men, let alone Star Trek.
Bingo. Offer to cover a third of the studio's production and marketing costs and I'm sure they'd be happy to give you a say in the franchise's development.
GI Joe...Governmenet Issue. America. That's GI Joe. Not the UN Peacekeeping Force. Captain America...American. If he's going to be fighting with other allies during the Captain America film, it should be the British, the French, and the Prince of Atlantis. People Cap actually fought with during the war.
I don't mind multiculturalism. My favorite comic series was Uncanny X-Men during the Claremont years and they were a multinational team written by an author born in Britian. But I have a problem with it being forced into something like GI Joe and Captain America.
I don't mind multiculturalism. My favorite comic series was Uncanny X-Men during the Claremont years and they were a multinational team written by an author born in Britian. But I have a problem with it being forced into something like GI Joe and Captain America.
Well. The movie industry is now an international affair. That's Joe is multicultural and that's why internationally Captain America: the First Avenger will be called The First Avenger.
You can't spend 100s of millions of dollars without a world wide market to support it.
But you just described how Captain America and a multinational force can fit together naturally! So, which is it?
As for GI Joe, well, perhaps the only winning move is not to play.
Color me jealous. How do I get to this country of yours?
In the country I was born in, I can get in trouble if I say something that someone else doesn't like.
There are two simple alternatives to "internationalizing" characters like Captain America and G.I. Joe:
1) Don't make movies about them;
2) Make domestic TV movies or low-budget DVD movies about them. Roger Corman did it for the Fantastic Four a long time ago, after all.
That's it, those are your choices. America just isn't sufficiently beloved internationally for that tight association to be other than a drag on the box office and the studios won't be able to come up with financing for mega-budget action flicks that they don't expect to do big international business.
1) Don't make movies about them;
2) Make domestic TV movies or low-budget DVD movies about them. Roger Corman did it for the Fantastic Four a long time ago, after all.
That's it, those are your choices. America just isn't sufficiently beloved internationally for that tight association to be other than a drag on the box office and the studios won't be able to come up with financing for mega-budget action flicks that they don't expect to do big international business.
