She's also self-aware, able to explain her earlier frostiness to MItchell.
William Shatner Confirms Talks for Star Trek Return at 93 Years Old
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I'm not opposed to it. Just not sure what Dehner can bring to the mix.
i think there could be some fun interactions between her and gary, leading up the the frostiness. Just a character that its the time period that I have always been the most fascinated with when I watch it. If its too much of a stretch, I would settle for Helen Noel.
You can always depict somebody who certain characters have never met interact with other characters they might know. For instance, she could be M'Benga's therapist.
Now my writing subroutine has been activated. Gary and Liz do know each other. Had a fling before she was assigned. He being Gary cheated on her. She's still a bit miffed.
Yup, exactly something like that. My take was going to be earlier on-board, but before she was assigned works too. Just think there is still some potential and for a little wiggle room.
Gary has always been one of my favorite characters in the franchise. Not the least of which, an old friend of mine has some very similar characateristics. He embodies a lot of the stereotypes later given to Kirk, and there has to be a reason they were best friends for years, and that Kirk asked for him specifically at one point. We only got to see his bad side, really, but from what I can tell, before that he could have had some positive qualities and a lot of fun scenes. In a world without McCoy, he takes on the bantering with Spock, the humanity, the friendship with Kirk in the trio. The stakes of the pilot hit so much deeper if you think of a whole lost season with that crew. Could even be what leads Piper into retirement or leaving.
Gary is definitely "public perception" Kirk.
Does that mean annoying?Gary is definitely "public perception" Kirk.
I like the idea that the MItchell lady already on the show is Gary Mitchell's sister. Maybe the reason he doesn't like Dehner is because she reported something his sister said to her, that made her loose her job on the ship. He blames Dehner for this. The reason he was recruited to the ship is because Kirk recommended him to Pike.
I didn’t know Gary was Asian.
He could be adopted or she could have been adopted or they are related through remarriage of one of their parents.
Or they’re just not related. You know, Occam’s Razor and all that.
Or they could be robots made by a scientist who was dating a lady named Mitchell and he wanted to impress her by naming his robots after her. I suppose anything is possible but wouldn't it be neat if they are related. Actually now I bring it up I am kind of leaning into the robot idea!
Oh, we don’t do that here. Everything must have an explanation and must be connected, otherwise the audience will never understand every last piece of esoteric minutiae! The writers must explain everything because the audience has the comprehension of middle schoolers, apparently.
I would love to see shatner portraying kirk again. Even a sitting admiral behind a desk would be great.
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IIRC, he’s always been reluctant to do some bit-cameo role that had no bearing on the greater story. If he is going to be involved, it would need to have some meaning.
The fewer legacy character stuff the better. If it happens, there is only ONE acceptable way to explain it.
No Genesis.
No alternate reality.
No space magic.
Just...
No Genesis.
No alternate reality.
No space magic.
Just...
