I blame the hipsters.
why Adult Swim? WHY?!
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Illegal narcotics would explain several of the characters in Azumanga Daioh.
yeah, but thats just harmless Acid, nothing vile like crack or meth that created squidbillies
I'll take squidbillies over Tim and Eric.
I'll take all you sons a bitches with me when I go.
I think Azumanga seems...pot related. ^^ It still has a great deal more intelligence than some of Adult Swim's current offerings. You don't have to be stoned to enjoy it.
The reason Adult Swim is dying is is that Adult swim got too damn big for their britches, hired too many people, costs went up, too many people, not enough cash to go around. Adult Swim should have stayed lean and mean, but instead they seemed to want to bankroll any inane show they could get.
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I mean who really though Tim and Eric were so damned hot in the first place…. Plus you have the two creators of ATHF who though that just because they hit gold on Aqua Teen meant they could go produce more hits but none of their stuff turned out to be good. All the stuff created by them has been crap and any show out that not produced by “Williams Street” has had to do double time to justify it’s existence (Venture Bros, Stroker and hoop, Anime etc….). While any shows with the William Steet logo can just coast by with mediocre drivel.
Really the only thing that honestly has supported the Comedy Block has been Family Guy and Futurama, and now that they lost Futurama, the writing is on the wall. Adult swim is going to die in obscurity, and that is too bad, but they themselves killed it.
The time slot it was on was pretty much a graveyard shift for channels showing cartoons, but they filled it up with pretty good stuff and that helped the ratings, at one point they outdid Jay Leno for chrissakes, pretty good for a basic cable channel.
I think they died when they started producing more than 1/2 their content on their own. Costs went way up, gross profits stayed the same down, Net profits took a plunge. If they were just paying for licensing of series and a staff of say 4 or 6 people to do promos and programming then they would still be at the top of their game. Just how many people do they need to program pre-made shows in the middle of the night anyways????
I just wonder what the cost of licensing an anime series is compared to producing a horrible show about cartoon squids is anyways.
Adult Swim was literally killed by it’s own success….
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I mean who really though Tim and Eric were so damned hot in the first place…. Plus you have the two creators of ATHF who though that just because they hit gold on Aqua Teen meant they could go produce more hits but none of their stuff turned out to be good. All the stuff created by them has been crap and any show out that not produced by “Williams Street” has had to do double time to justify it’s existence (Venture Bros, Stroker and hoop, Anime etc….). While any shows with the William Steet logo can just coast by with mediocre drivel.
Really the only thing that honestly has supported the Comedy Block has been Family Guy and Futurama, and now that they lost Futurama, the writing is on the wall. Adult swim is going to die in obscurity, and that is too bad, but they themselves killed it.
The time slot it was on was pretty much a graveyard shift for channels showing cartoons, but they filled it up with pretty good stuff and that helped the ratings, at one point they outdid Jay Leno for chrissakes, pretty good for a basic cable channel.
I think they died when they started producing more than 1/2 their content on their own. Costs went way up, gross profits stayed the same down, Net profits took a plunge. If they were just paying for licensing of series and a staff of say 4 or 6 people to do promos and programming then they would still be at the top of their game. Just how many people do they need to program pre-made shows in the middle of the night anyways????
I just wonder what the cost of licensing an anime series is compared to producing a horrible show about cartoon squids is anyways.
Adult Swim was literally killed by it’s own success….
The fans haven't helped anime on TV either you've got the downloader crow that thinks "all dubs are awful" no matter what, they refuse to buy the DVDs, and watch the shows on TV so no company wants to advertise during their shows due to low ratings. You also have the crowd that hates anime with a passion and think Tim and Eric are comedic genuises that now outnumber legitimate anime fans. Licensing fees are extremely high in order to cover the cost of an anime, so Williams Street can make their own mediocre stuff that gets the same or better ratings for far cheaper than airing an anime. With all this it's no wonder Adult Swim/Cartoon Network is dumping anime and considers it "unprofitable".
Well, the US anime distrobution companies sure have my bussiness: 
Complete series/OVAs: 171
Movies: 87
Series I'm working on: 8
...and I still download, but only unliscensed material though. I wouldn't download anything I could go out and buy here or watch for free on legal streaming websites or TV. In fact if you don't download you miss all kinds of gems like:
Angel Heart
Bakumatsu Kikansetsu Irohanihoheto
Bamboo Blade
Banner of the Stars III
Black Jack 21
Chaos Head
Denno Coil
Elfen Lied OVA
Ghost Hound
Higurashi no Naku Koroni Kai
Jigoku Shoujo: Futakamori
Jigoku Shoujo: Mitsuganae
Kara no Kyoukai
Kimi ga Nozomu Eien-Next Season
Kurenai
Library War
Macross Frontier
Macross Zero
Mnemosyne
My Otome 0~S.ifr
Pale Cocoon
REC
Ryoko's Case File
School Days
Shakugan no Shana: Second
Soul Eater
Soul Link
Stratos 4 Advance
The Skull Man
Tsubasa Chronicle: Tokyo Revelations
Vampire Knight
Vampire Knight: Guilty
XXXHolic: Kei
Yume Tsukai
...to name a few. I'd especially recomend the linkified ones.
Complete series/OVAs: 171
Movies: 87
Series I'm working on: 8
...and I still download, but only unliscensed material though. I wouldn't download anything I could go out and buy here or watch for free on legal streaming websites or TV. In fact if you don't download you miss all kinds of gems like:
Angel Heart
Bakumatsu Kikansetsu Irohanihoheto
Bamboo Blade
Banner of the Stars III
Black Jack 21
Chaos Head
Denno Coil
Elfen Lied OVA
Ghost Hound
Higurashi no Naku Koroni Kai
Jigoku Shoujo: Futakamori
Jigoku Shoujo: Mitsuganae
Kara no Kyoukai
Kimi ga Nozomu Eien-Next Season
Kurenai
Library War
Macross Frontier
Macross Zero
Mnemosyne
My Otome 0~S.ifr
Pale Cocoon
REC
Ryoko's Case File
School Days
Shakugan no Shana: Second
Soul Eater
Soul Link
Stratos 4 Advance
The Skull Man
Tsubasa Chronicle: Tokyo Revelations
Vampire Knight
Vampire Knight: Guilty
XXXHolic: Kei
Yume Tsukai
...to name a few. I'd especially recomend the linkified ones.
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^ The problem isn't downloading in itself, it's the mindset that it's the ONLY way to see anime and that spending money on DVDs are a waste of money, that's the problem, it soon won't be one way to see anime but the only way to see anime. I advocate a mix of downloading, renting, and buying, but I find that convincing anyone that buying anime is a good thing is an uphill battle.
Except for the jab at Tim and Eric (personally, I think they're hilarious), I agree with your entire post.
I agree with the sentiment of finding it stupid to dismiss buying as a good option out of laziness or being a cheapass, but one must also factor in the fact that supporting an anime hobby isn't exactly cheap and takes a steady income. So I can sympathize a little but mostly I'd just tell them to go get a job, because spending just comes with habit.
Very true is domestic companies don't take in money on products they've liscensed and distribute sooner or later they won't have enough to liscense series in the first place which would be severely annoying for a collector like myself who would rather have a physical object then an etherial and all too easily erased digital one.
You can already see a bit of that already I think. There's an increasing number of series being released subtitled-only, which cuts the added cost of dubbing. I'm not a fan of that at all as I'm a man who likes choices so I'm happier with bilingual DVDs instead. I'll buy sub only releases, but only if they've really caught my interest.
You can already see a bit of that already I think. There's an increasing number of series being released subtitled-only, which cuts the added cost of dubbing. I'm not a fan of that at all as I'm a man who likes choices so I'm happier with bilingual DVDs instead. I'll buy sub only releases, but only if they've really caught my interest.
