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What would you say to a weekly procedural show in the Trek universe like police or CSI type of show?

Gingerbread Demon

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What about a cop / CSI type show, how would that work in the Trek universe?

Me personally I don't think I'd mind that if it was well written and not too over the top, I mean there must be cops on Earth at least still, as hinted by Trek 2009 at least and I'm pretty sure jobs like coroners still exist. We know from TNG at least that roles like JAG still exist there was an episode that featured such a person, Phillipa Louvois TNG "The measure of a man"

I'd love to know what other people think.
 
This should have been the next show after Enterprise, in the mid 2000s explosion of procedurals. Lucifier managed it decently well as a genre show. It could have worked. Not sure anyone would care now.
 
This should have been the next show after Enterprise, in the mid 2000s explosion of procedurals. Lucifier managed it decently well as a genre show. It could have worked. Not sure anyone would care now.


Hell they could have done it even during TNG with Phillipa Louvois as the lead and weekly stories of what JAG gets up to, or something related to them.
 
Hell they could have done it even during TNG with Phillipa Louvois as the lead and weekly stories of what JAG gets up to, or something related to them.

I forget that Jag and the original Law and Order pre-date the cookie cutter procedurals. Yeah, that really could have worked too, as well as introducing a new formula to the 24th century spinoffs. Setting it on DS9 could have been super interesting as the melting pot of species and laws it could have pulled from.
 
Does anyone remember the short lived "Mercy Point"? It was a science fiction medical procedural set on the titular space station. I believe it was on UPN?

Anyway, it didn't last long.

Maybe it would take exceptional writing. Maybe science fiction isn't well suited for a procedural.

Doesn't it take more than Trek elements to make a Star Trek show. A one off procedural episode? Sure. A series? I'm not so sure it could be sustainable.
 
The whole problem with doing a cop or lawyer or hospital show in a Trek setting or sci-fi setting in general is that it's defeating the purpose of doing those kind of shows to begin with. The reason cop/lawyer/medical dramas dominate the modern network lineup is because they're cheap to do. Cop shows especially if the show gets the support of an actual police department/law enforcement agency who can then provide them with authentic uniforms, equipment and even personnel saving a ton on the show's budget. You can't get that sort of help in a sci-fi setting, therefore making it a costly endeavor. Maybe in the Trek universe you could use costumes and props from the other shows, but still the increased use of visual FX and alien makeup is still going to make the show more expensive than Law and Order, Grey's Anatomy or CSI regardless.
 
Cop and hospital shows portray social issues and crimes ripped from the headlines, with a few details changed, disclaimer notwithstanding. They're grounded in what actually happened.

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Trek more often than not uses allegory, not one-for-one with name swaps.

Cop shows especially if the show gets the support of an actual police department/law enforcement agency who can then provide them with authentic uniforms, equipment and even personnel saving a ton on the show's budget.

Plot twist: time travel is real and our descendants do provide this kind of help. :bolian:

Seriously, though, it's also easier to create/dress the sets if you don't have to make everything sci-fi and alien. Just use somebody's apartment - real-world locations can play themselves instead of futuristic alien locales.
 
If it's for a two minute segment of Law and Order, in which some person you never see again is interviewed in a place you never see again...I suppose perhaps, though, these places are redressed and reused multiple times in multiple episodes/other shows/films, and we just don't notice because we're more focused on the episode's storyline than cross-matching sets between productions.
 
Does anyone remember the short lived "Mercy Point"? It was a science fiction medical procedural set on the titular space station. I believe it was on UPN?

Anyway, it didn't last long.

I loved that show. It had some neat ideas in it that I really liked like homesickness disease from extended deep space from Earth
 
If that's so, then there has to be at least one episode where one of the 25th century people gets stuck in the past (possibly before the "popsicle" froze, so they work together), particularly the one most annoyed by the popsicle, so they get to see things from the flipped POV.
 
I dunno if a Law and Order/NCIS type procedural would work for Trek. But I do think a legal or medical drama would work.

All the court room type episodes have always been among Treks best no matter the series. So something in that realm would have a leg up.

And I think a medical drama set aboard a ship or base would be an interesting change. Adapt that “Leonard McCoy Frontier Doctor” Comic/Graphic novel or do something akin to MASH set during the Dominion War. Maybe adapt the McCoy novel but change it to Bashir.
 
If they're going to do a sitcom, I see no reason why a crime-procedural set in the Star Trek universe wouldn't work. You could probably make the Orion Syndicate the "big bad" and use the criminal conspiracy the main characters are fighting to uncover something that connects to actions of the larger powers as the even bigger bad behind things, or maybe even something or someone within the Federation/Starfleet itself pulling the strings.

I remember one of the books went with the idea of what if you did The West Wing within the Star Trek universe?

Basically, a story where the audience sees the policy issues and debates at the highest levels and how that filters down to the actions of Starfleet. But you could also get into what does the internal politics of the Federation look like? What would be the equivalent of a budget battle or hot-button issues like immigration, abortion, or a foreign policy debate in the 24th century? Are there people who think too many resources are allocated for Starfleet and feel like that instead of building starships policy should be "Federation First" and more insular instead of exploration?

The idea that I know could go all the way wrong if it was done bad, but that I would love to see is a Star Trek love story! Something along the lines of a KDrama set in the Star Trek universe.

What if you did a limited series but at the core of it was a love story, but you surrounded it with all the trappings of the Star Trek universe and KDrama memes? One of my favorite love stories ever is a KDrama called Something in the Rain, and I really think you could take that basic premise and Star Trek-ify it and make something really interesting as a love story that's never been tried in any of the shows of the franchise.
  • A Starfleet officer is assigned to a planet as part of a mission to help with issues, along the lines of what Starfleet did in helping Bajor get on its feet and ready for Federation membership.
  • As part of their mission, they meet someone, and through the other part of the love story you can explore social issues in a Star Trek way (e.g., maybe the significant other is a lawyer or liaison to the government), but see those things through the eyes of this alien culture and use it to make commentary on the human condition. However, during these interactions, slowly but surely, sparks occur between the main characters.
  • Maybe the family of the indigenous person they meet doesn't approve of a relationship with a human Starfleet officer, maybe there's an ex who's an asshole fighting to keep them apart, maybe the politics of the relationship complicates things and something Starfleet is not exactly happy about.
  • Circumstances conspire to try to keep them apart. Maybe even Starfleet reassigns them and the latter part of the series is whether the main character can make it back to this planet and fight to get this relationship back?
 
What if you did a limited series but at the core of it was a love story, but you surrounded it with all the trappings of the Star Trek universe and KDrama memes? One of my favorite love stories ever is a KDrama called Something in the Rain, and I really think you could take that basic premise and Star Trek-ify it and make something really interesting as a love story that's never been tried in any of the shows of the franchise.
  • A Starfleet officer is assigned to a planet...

This idea would make a great movie focused on Rike/Troi or Decker/Ilia
 
It would basically have to be like Third Watch or the 9-1-1 franchise and follow specific groups - the investigators and forensic analysts, the lawyers and JAG Corps, the doctors and medical researchers. And it would have to be set on a starbase somewhere, possibly on a world where the city is planetwide.

But what’s big today are political dramas. And if Star Trek was trying to stay relevant, that’s something that they would be trying to bring into fruition.
 
I wouldn't really want to see a series of episodic procedurals, but I think an Earth security officer could be an interesting focus for a mini-series that explores what living on 23rd/24th/25th century Earth is actually like.

What even is "crime" in a post-scarcity world where everyone has everything they need at the push of a button, and self-actualisation is the main driver?

I could see such a series gradually unfolding some kind of crime or scandal that loops in Federation politicians, to give us more insight into how the politics of the Federation operate.

I think a take on Star Trek that takes us away from the "officers on a Starfleet ship" paradigm could be really interesting.

Perhaps Section 31 and Starfleet Academy might give us some of this.
 
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