What New/Classic monsters do you want to see in the New Doctor Who

[The Borgified Corpse]

For Omega, isn't Stephen Thorne, the original Omega, still alive? I'd really like to see him back.

For that matter, why didn't they get Terry Molloy to play Davros in "The Stolen Earth"/"Journey's End"? After Big Finish's "Davros" audio, Molloy owns that role even more than he did back in the '80s.

I'm sure that John Simm could do a much quieter, more dangerous Master. You saw glimpses of that in some of his earlier performances, particularly the phone call between him & the Doctor when the Doctor tells him that Gallifrey is gone in "The Sound of Drums." But he needs a goatee next time!

 

[Starkers]

For Omega, isn't Stephen Thorne, the original Omega, still alive? I'd really like to see him back.

For that matter, why didn't they get Terry Molloy to play Davros in "The Stolen Earth"/"Journey's End"? After Big Finish's "Davros" audio, Molloy owns that role even more than he did back in the '80s.

I'm sure that John Simm could do a much quieter, more dangerous Master. You saw glimpses of that in some of his earlier performances, particularly the phone call between him & the Doctor when the Doctor tells him that Gallifrey is gone in "The Sound of Drums." But he needs a goatee next time!

Well he had a wife...

 

[Mark_Nguyen]

Cryons. Actually.

If *even* more Cyberman stuff is to be seen, I'd like to see them diversify their goals and origins somewhat. "Nightmare in Silver" has kind-of rebooted the Cyberman race, which IMO consolidates both the Mondas and Lumic cyber races into one gestalt (the details of which remain unknown for now). Assuming the classic-era Cybermen were wiped out in the Time War, leaving behind only smidges of wreckage and tech, I think the "new" versions deserve a better backstory and the Cryons could be part of it.

Also, not all returning monsters need be a big military sort of lot. We need folks from the long-ago who were, or had the potential to be, really memorable additions to the canon WITHOUT having to be a constant threat to the episode that week.

Mark

 

[Mr Awe]

There's not really any more that I'm dying to see return, but I would be interested in Draconians and Omega.

I'm most interested in seeing Susan return though!

Mr Awe

 

[Doctorwhovian]

Susan's been mentioned a few times (although not named) and sort of seen(In Name Of The Doctor).


There has been some speculation that Claire Bloom's time lady in "The End Of Time" was a regenerated Susan, but really she could've been anybody (Although RTD thinks she was the Doctor's mother).

Draconians would be interesting, I think they were also mentioned by name in "The Impossible Planet/Satan Pit".

I wouldn't mind Sutekh, or possibly another Osirian, or even an updated version of the robot mummies. His 'death' seemed a bit strange, he was caught in the time corridor but it's not clear how he 'died' IMO. There was a decent sequel novel that took place during the Fifth Doctor era, The Sands Of Time.

 

[The Wormhole]

There has been some speculation that Claire Bloom's time lady in "The End Of Time" was a regenerated Susan, but really she could've been anybody (Although RTD thinks she was the Doctor's mother).

"Thinks" isn't entirely accurate. It was RTD's intent that she is the Doctor's mother, he just didn't have it stated feeling it's better if fans can imagine her as whoever they want her to be.

It's likely similar thinking why we don't have anything more definitive regarding the Curator's identity...

 

[The Borgified Corpse]

Well, that's a little different. There's a strong on-screen implication that the Curator is the Doctor. He practically says it when he talks about revisiting old faces. Only crazed fan rationalizations imply that he's anything else.

On the other hand, there's nothing onscreen to solidly identify the woman from "The End of Time." All we know is that she's a woman with a close fondness for the Doctor, but that could be anything from mother to daughter to granddaughter to sister to ex-wife.

 

[Starkers]

And it really makes more sense, IMO, for it to be Susan rather than the Doctor's mum!

 

[Mr Awe]

^ Agreed!

I think for revisiting things from the classic series, right now I'd be more interested in revisiting previous settings. I'd be curious to see what happened in the Androzani system, or revisit the Robots of Death society (I know there's EU material about that but I haven't read/heard them).

And Susan. Romana's a close 2nd for a return character.

Mr Awe

 

[Doctorwhovian]

^There's a reference to Androzani in the The Doctor, The Widow, and The Wardrobe where the tree-cutters or whatever state they come from Androzani Major, and the trees themselves appear to be Androzani trees or something like that; it's not clear whether the snowy planet is Androzani Major or the planet was named after the trees or vice versa.

 

[Mr Awe]

^ I'm talking about a return to that system rather than just a reference to it. Very different things! Not that I minded the reference!

 

[kirk55555]

Well, that's a little different. There's a strong on-screen implication that the Curator is the Doctor. He practically says it when he talks about revisiting old faces. Only crazed fan rationalizations imply that he's anything else.

On the other hand, there's nothing onscreen to solidly identify the woman from "The End of Time." All we know is that she's a woman with a close fondness for the Doctor, but that could be anything from mother to daughter to granddaughter to sister to ex-wife.

I actually thought that character was supposed to be his mother when I saw that story, even before I knew about what RTD and fans thought. She just came off that way to me. Ithink that would be a cool way to go, although a regenerated susan or Romana would be interesting, too.

I like the mother theory anyway because I've always wanted to see/hear more about The Doctor's life on galifrey. We know he had at least one child on Galifrey, who was one of Susan's parents. He also presumably had a mate (if not a wife) that he had the kid with. They'll probably never go into it even when the Timelords eventually return, but its just something I think about.

As for monsters, from Classic Who I'd like to see a new regeneration of The Master and Rani. The ideas to have them played by Alan rickman and Claudia Black would definitely be cool. I'd mention the daleks, too, but I think they're the aliens we're most likely to see returning anyway. From new Who I hope we get some Weeping Angels, and I actually did like the Clockwork Robots.

 

[The Wormhole]

revisit the Robots of Death society (I know there's EU material about that but I haven't read/heard them).

If you're interested, Corpse Marker is one of the recently re-printed novels that's part of the Monster Collection. Meaning it should be easily available at any book store.

 

[Doctorwhovian]

Plus there's the Kaldor City audios (probably a bit harder to find).

Also regarding novels, Kirk55555 the novels do hint a bit at the Doctor's life on Gallifrey, but they use quite different concepts for the Doctor's 'family' (and that's largely been overwritten by the new series). "Lungbarrow" is pretty much an explanation of the Doctor's 'family' and why he left Gallifrey, but again it's probably not canon.

Also such novels largely feature the Seventh Doctor and portray him as even more devious than the TV series did, not sure if you'd like that.

 

[Mr Pointy Ears]

I wouldn't mind seeing the doctor returning to peladon and see the changes that have happened there after the doctor last visted the planet.

 

[kirk55555]

Plus there's the Kaldor City audios (probably a bit harder to find).

Also regarding novels, Kirk55555 the novels do hint a bit at the Doctor's life on Gallifrey, but they use quite different concepts for the Doctor's 'family' (and that's largely been overwritten by the new series). "Lungbarrow" is pretty much an explanation of the Doctor's 'family' and why he left Gallifrey, but again it's probably not canon.

Also such novels largely feature the Seventh Doctor and portray him as even more devious than the TV series did, not sure if you'd like that.

No novel that says the Doctor was actually an ancient timelords who jumped into a loom (where all timelords are born) to escape someone and then eventually became The Doctor could ever be anything but a story I'd hate, it doesn't matter which Doctor was involved in the story. If nothing else, Doctor Who getting cancelled in the 80s saved the character from Andrew Cartmel Making babies the human way is more than good enough for The Doctor and the Timelords, and The Doctor doesn't need to be some ancient timelord demi god.

Thankfully it seems like the people making NuWho don't use anything from Lungbarrow, and episodes like A Good Man Goes to War outright contradicts it by confirming The Doctor was an actual, physical baby at one point and The Doctor's Daughter has him saying he had children (which should be obvious anyway since he already had one Granddaughter from his very first appearance). Someone could argue that it was "The Other's" cradle, or that he was lying about the cradle being his and about ever having children (or that his "children" were actually adult "cousins" he adopted ). But that seems like trying really hard to fit Lungbarrow into continuity. I'd say its a story that can be counted as being completely out of canon, even if it was based off ideas from people who once controlled the show, which is a good thing in my opinion.

 

[sidious618]

I'd love to see Faction Paradox in the show. It'll never happen, of course, but it'd sure be awesome. Granted, they're from the books.

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

There being 2.47 billion children on Gallifrey shoots the loom idea down pretty well.

Though the loom way does have a more "alien" feel that would have fit in fine too.

 

[Doctorwhovian]

Lungbarrow I think was also considered to be a TV story if the series had not been cancelled. It might even have been the story which Ace would've been accepted to Time Lord Academy or something similar like that.


But yeah the novels (barring the episode novelizations, but even those often differ from the TV versions) aren't really canon although some have been written by writers on both the old and new shows.

 

[The Wormhole]

But yeah the novels (barring the episode novelizations, but even those often differ from the TV versions) aren't really canon although some have been written by writers on both the old and new shows.

Well, sometimes the novels actually do get mentioned in the show. RTD referenced the novel Beautiful Chaos in The End of Time.