Because Seven became such an important charatcer for Voyager after she was introduced (for good or bad), she interacted with other charatcers a lot. I would like to ask you, wityh which charatcer her relationship was the best. Best written, that you liked the best... Anything.
What is the best relationship Seven of Nine had (platonic or romantic) on Voyager?
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Chakotay. They had such great chemistry and their friendship and final romance was portrayed so organically over the course of four seasons. What an arc. From trying to blow her out an airlock to locking lips. Just magnificent story telling.
Sorry, I have to disagree here. I saw no chemistry at all between them.
Chakotay/Seven (as a romance, not platonic friendship) honestly seems to exist to show that the creators can do anything with the show. It wouldn't be the first time either.
I think that they created it just to show the "finger" to all fans who wanted a Chakotay/Janeway relationship in the same way they showed the "finger" to the Kes fans by bringing back the character to the series only to humiliate and destroy her.
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Yes, this. I really shipped Janeway/Chakotay the first time I watched the show and I was so mad that they had the stupid Chakotay/Seven thing instead. And I agree with @Lynx here, there was absolutely no chemistry whatever between those two. AFAIK the romance was only written as a response to a throwaway comment by Beltran, who by that time was just calling it in. IMO they should've let Beltran quit the show when he first suggested it instead of paying him so much, I would've loved to see Tuvok as XO. Sure, TOS did the Vulcan XO thing already with Spock, but...
Or the crap they pulled in "Nightingale", rubbing our noses in the fact that Harry was staying an ensign and there was nothing we could do about it.
But Chakotay's character was stagnating. Sometimes, if there's no path forward for a character, they're more useful dead than alive.
He was probably the best option, though Harry would also have worked, IMO.
I honestly don;t like Doctor/Seven as a romantic pairing (planotic is a diffrent thing entirely), bercause it of its inequality. It is clear that the Doctor is Seven's mentor in many things and that is dangerous in a romantic relationship. especially since Seven is not his superior or mentor in any things. With Kes, it was more equal: Doctor was teaching her medical stuff, but Kes teached him about social stuff, so they were kind of equal. No such things with Seven.
Oh no, one of the few things I'm happy with considering seasons 4-7 of Voyager is that they didn't kill of Chakotay.
It was more than enough that they dumped and destroyed my favorite character, if they had killed off my second favorite, I would have placed Voyager inn the same cathegory as Stargate Universe, something I only mention when I want to criticize.
If they instead had made something better with Chakotay, like making him what he was supposed to be, sort of action character and a character who sometimes could disagree with Janeway, then the show would have been much better.
The same with Harry. No reason to kill him off.
As for Seven and The Doctor, wouldn't a relationship with a hologram be too much over the top?
In that case, Seven having a relationship with Harry would have been more acceptable, even if I do like the idea of harry staying faithful to Libby despite all the difficulties of being 70 000 lightyears away.
And is it absolutely necessary to pair off everyone in a bunch of main characters?
Anyway, the most logical relationship was Chakotay/Janeway.
Many fans wanted it so of course those in charge had to ruin it.
First,good to see you takingpart in this discussion, Lynx.
And for whatever everoyone has to be paired off, I don't think so. But I think that Seven should be paired off well, to prevent her from baing paired off badly.
One charatcer i don't think have to be paired (although I sometimes pair her up with Tom Paris, in some AU stories of mine) is Kes. Not only it is not nessesary, I like to make her a Jedi - like (or even directly a Jedi, if it is a Star Wars crossover) and so "romantic attachments" may be dangerous to her. Especially since she is at risk of falling to the Dark Side, unfortunately.
Antoher charatcer I dom;t like pairing up is Tuvok, since he's married. And Neelix... he may be paired, but it is not nessesary.
And for whatever everoyone has to be paired off, I don't think so. But I think that Seven should be paired off well, to prevent her from baing paired off badly.
One charatcer i don't think have to be paired (although I sometimes pair her up with Tom Paris, in some AU stories of mine) is Kes. Not only it is not nessesary, I like to make her a Jedi - like (or even directly a Jedi, if it is a Star Wars crossover) and so "romantic attachments" may be dangerous to her. Especially since she is at risk of falling to the Dark Side, unfortunately.
Antoher charatcer I dom;t like pairing up is Tuvok, since he's married. And Neelix... he may be paired, but it is not nessesary.
In my opinion, a character with no viable avenue of development, it's better to give them a meaningful death than a meaningless life.
In a story I wrote a couple decades ago (the last half of which is now lost with the site it was on), I had a difficult love triangle: the female protagonist chose one guy over another, but the other was a genuinely good person whom I liked. Since I had not created a suitable alternative love interest for him, and didn't want him just hovering there through the years, pining for the girl he had lost... I killed him off. His death was a final, shattering message about the horrors of war. Instead of a life that was counterproductive to the narrative, he had a productive death.
Given that Harry and Chakotay had very limited value to the overarching Voyager narrative, giving either one a heroic and emotionally gut-wrenching death might have been a good thing.
Depends on your perspective. I consider the whole "holograms are sentient" idea to be questionable at best anyway. But TNG walked with it (Moriarty), DS9 jogged (Vic), and VOY ran full tilt, far and fast.
It only works if we actually see them reunited at the end.
I shipped those two ever since "Resolutions". Kind of like I shipped Caspian/Susan after seeing "Prince Caspian". Still do, in both cases.
Tim Russ ended that early on. He told the showrunners "I don’t cheat on my wife, and neither does Tuvok."
He was. He was the only VOY character who got a satisfying ending within the series. At least three other VOY characters never got one at all, 23 years after the series ended.
Janeway/Chakotay is a natural pairing for me. Too bad they didn't go with it... Well, at least Prodigy restored the possibility of it.
Personally, I find Harry/Seven the only Seven paring I like. It's either Harry or no one. Or maybe a new character. From Harry's side, Seven is nice, but Libby is good too, if they show that they ended up together. However, if Libby moved on alrerady, then Seven is sa good idea. Maybe Kes too, although it's more for fun that anything serious. Only Kes pairing I write seriously is Kes/Tom Patis, and even tha is only when I ship Kes in a story (and AU story only).
Personally, I find Harry/Seven the only Seven paring I like. It's either Harry or no one. Or maybe a new character. From Harry's side, Seven is nice, but Libby is good too, if they show that they ended up together. However, if Libby moved on alrerady, then Seven is sa good idea. Maybe Kes too, although it's more for fun that anything serious. Only Kes pairing I write seriously is Kes/Tom Patis, and even tha is only when I ship Kes in a story (and AU story only).
And not even close
I recently began to wonder if part of B'Elanna's initial hostility toward Seven was because Kes recently left (and I think B'elanna and Kes were quite good friends) and she saw Seven as a "worse replacement" for Kes.
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