USS Enterprise-H (25th Century)

[ngc7293]

One idea for the entire series is almost obvious. You are playing with Transwarp Conduits. The Borg are the other Race that uses them. Bad writing turned them from "force of nature" into the Federation's punching bag. Maybe with your ship's new toys you can turn a fruitless battle into a draw but at least it would be better than the TNG show episodes and movies

 

[Lorna]

One idea for the entire series is almost obvious. You are playing with Transwarp Conduits. The Borg are the other Race that uses them. Bad writing turned them from "force of nature" into the Federation's punching bag. Maybe with your ship's new toys you can turn a fruitless battle into a draw but at least it would be better than the TNG show episodes and movies

In my Trekverse the Borg are too busy licking their wounds and are staying away from the Federation.
Besides that, the Federation Transwarp conduits are located only within Federation space and only accessible within Federation space.. Also it's always seemed that Transwarp apertures were undetectable unless something was coming through, so I would imagine that the Federation Transwarp network requires prior knowledge of exact co-ordinates otherwise a ship would be looking for a needle in a hay stack.

 

[ngc7293]

In my Trekverse the Borg are too busy licking their wounds and are staying away from the Federation.

The Borg Licking their wounds for a hundred years?!? I guess your story is keeping the Borg as the wimps that the TNG stories created.

Besides that, the Federation Transwarp conduits are located only within Federation space and only accessible within Federation space.. Also it's always seemed that Transwarp apertures were undetectable unless something was coming through, so I would imagine that the Federation Transwarp network requires prior knowledge of exact co-ordinates otherwise a ship would be looking for a needle in a hay stack.

And I would imagine that the Borg would be the Masters of the Transwarp conduit. Though it has been shown they always get their tech from other races, it is possible a queen could change her tactics and actually Learn for once. A Collective that learns from its mistakes is no longer mindless zombies. In a hundred years, their conduit tech grows. There is still at least one Transwarp Conduit from Borg Space and if they could detect and use Federation Conduits, they could become a long term threat.

That is what the chief idea was. I know you don't want to use the Borg but you brought up the idea of the transport system unique to the Borg. Perhaps you don't want to use them because they have been used a lot already, well in a hundred years who knows what has happened at the other end of the galaxy. Heck, you have to have something for the rest of the show.

 

[Lorna]

The Borg Licking their wounds for a hundred years?!? I guess your story is keeping the Borg as the wimps that the TNG stories created.

Not at all. There's nothing wimpy about standing back and biding your time, especially when the enemy has Torpedo technology that can wipe out a cube in one shot.

And I would imagine that the Borg would be the Masters of the Transwarp conduit. Though it has been shown they always get their tech from other races, it is possible a queen could change her tactics and actually Learn for once. A Collective that learns from its mistakes is no longer mindless zombies. In a hundred years, their conduit tech grows. There is still at least one Transwarp Conduit from Borg Space and if they could detect and use Federation Conduits, they could become a long term threat.

That is what the chief idea was. I know you don't want to use the Borg but you brought up the idea of the transport system unique to the Borg. Perhaps you don't want to use them because they have been used a lot already, well in a hundred years who knows what has happened at the other end of the galaxy. Heck, you have to have something for the rest of the show.

The problem is this, the Borg likely have hundreds of Cubes, one cube can devastate an entire Federation fleet. The only real weapon the Feds have against the Borg are the Transphasic torpedoes. What kind of storyline can you possibly have?

The choices are either:

1) The Borg adapt and they wipe out the Federation with ease or

2) The Borg don't adapt and the Federation wipes the floor with each cube with just one torpedo each.

The first option brings back the original badass Borg but I find it highly unlikely they'd send just one cube next time meaning the Federation stands no chance. The second option just leaves the Borg pussified.

One last thing, the Borg would not be the masters of the Transwarp conduit. The conduits remain open only due to the interspacial manifolds, the manifolds are Federation designed and built. These manifolds will be fitted with sensors and will be capable of detecting any ship within the conduits and determine if they're Federation or not. If they're not Federation the Manifolds can fire upon the ship and failing that as a last resort the manifolds can collapse the conduit on the ship.

 

[Admiral_Young]

I attempted to provide some constructive criticism in her other thread and unfortunately it wasn't received very well. Where are your characters though?

 

[Chaos Descending]

Do we have to continually force the name "Enterprise" into everything?

Enterprise-H? Really? Isn't it getting a little silly by now?

Don't even get me started on the Enterprise-J business from Enterprise's Temporal Cold War.

 

[Scout101]

I attempted to provide some constructive criticism in her other thread and unfortunately it wasn't received very well. Where are your characters though?

Could be worse, I'm now on ignore for doing the same thing. Not sure why you would post ideas, again and again, and attack and/or ignore anyone who bothers to actually read them...

 

[Admiral_Young]

Exactly. Now she hasn't posted in either thread for at least three days though. I'm still interested in the other project. We never got any characters other than the Captain and a few bits and pieces. I think others have brought up very poignant questions. If you're going to get that frustrated and pissed about criticism then don't bother posting your ideas on a public forum.

 

[C.E. Evans]

Do we have to continually force the name "Enterprise" into everything?

To launch a new era in Star Trek? Definitely. Now, you can have a spinoff afterwards that doesn't feature a Starship Enterprise, though. While DS9 and VOY showed that Trek isn't just about the Starship Enterprise, it is still the keystone or launching pad of every era in Trek and likely one the studio will insist on using as such.

Enterprise-H? Really? Isn't it getting a little silly by now?

I think it would get silly if it ever became the Enterprise-AA or the Enterprise-A2, but there are still plenty of letters in the alphabet and it should be many, many centuries before they reach "the Enterprise-Z" (Starfleet might do away with NCC hull registries altogether long before then, IMO). But really there are very few times in which an Enterprise is ever referred to by its hull registry, so it really isn't that much of an issue except to a small number of fans...

 

[Admiral_Young]

As Picard says at the end of "Generations" to Riker "There are 26 letters in the alphabet" or somesuch.

 

[Herkimer Jitty]

Letters of the alphabet are stupid. Have no character mention them if the Enterprise is the Ent-H,I,J,K,L,M,N,O,P, etc.

It's just the Enterprise.

I'd stick with 1701, No Bloody, or go for a totally new registry number.

 

[C.E. Evans]

There's nothing wrong with the letters. It's just a Starfleet tradition for all the Federation starships that have borne the Enterprise name and a link to where it all began (namely TOS). I think it's unlikely that we'll ever see an Enterprise-Z, however, but I wouldn't mind the practice continuing for another century or two...

 

[Captaindemotion]

As Picard says at the end of "Generations" to Riker "There are 26 letters in the alphabet" or somesuch.

And in FC he says something like 'plenty more letters in the alphabet', when Crusher says 'So much for the Enterprise-E' (which they're preparing to self-destruct).

 

[Admiral_Young]

^ Yep I just remembered that when I woke up this morning lol. Have no problem with the letters. The lettering system is Starfleet's way of honoring a ship with a lot of history and tradition and that has been responsible for saving the universe on countless occasions. I find it interesting that Lorna is no where to be found in either one of these threads. Oh well.

 

[Galileo7]

Have no problem with the letters. The lettering system is Starfleet's way of honoring a ship with a lot of history and tradition and that has been responsible for saving the universe on countless occasions.

Agree.

 

[USS Triumphant]

Have no problem with the letters. The lettering system is Starfleet's way of honoring a ship with a lot of history and tradition and that has been responsible for saving the universe on countless occasions.

Agree.

Agree, but, I still went ahead and made my fanfic Enterprise (which would have corresponded to the -H, since it followed the -G in my story) the NCC-170100. The logic being that they coincidentally happened to be very close to that point in hull enumeration when my Enterprise's construction began.

 

[USS KG5]

Have you played Mass Effect 2 - because the plot here is very familiar!