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News USS Dauntless

The StarTrek.com database entry confirms this is also registered as a Dauntless class ship.

And if it's the first of its kind, then that's exactly what it is. ;)

As for the fake Dauntless' registry: I doubt anyone from Voyager paid it much heed. They were probably too excited about the brand new ship that was supposed to get them home, nobody ever thought to ask about its registry number.
 
It’s not 100% exactly the same design. It’s a cross between the Dauntless NX-01-A and the Voyager prototype. But the bridge looks to be an exact match.

And why not... it was a nice bridge design, remarkably so for a one-off ship in fact.
 
A viewscreen in mandatory...

Not necessarily, it would seem that Arturis's Dauntless didn't have a viewscreen...

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...Which would kind of make sense, since there's probably not much to look at during extended slipsteam travel. I imagine it's a bit like the original configuration of the Enterprise-E bridge, and there's a holographic viewscreen that appears when needed. My headcanon is that those distinctive light panels in the walls are part of a sophisticated holographic imaging system for precisely that reason.
 
Speaking of EAS, is there anything there about this new Dauntless yet? This seems the sort of thing that would get Bernd triggered to the extreme.
 
Not necessarily, it would seem that Arturis's Dauntless didn't have a viewscreen...

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...Which would kind of make sense, since there's probably not much to look at during extended slipsteam travel. I imagine it's a bit like the original configuration of the Enterprise-E bridge, and there's a holographic viewscreen that appears when needed. My headcanon is that those distinctive light panels in the walls are part of a sophisticated holographic imaging system for precisely that reason.

I had to do a rewatch and they only showed that front section once, when they first beamed in. Weird layout, even for an alien ship. If the show were made now, your ideas about a holo viewscreen would be much easier to create.
 
Speaking of EAS, is there anything there about this new Dauntless yet? This seems the sort of thing that would get Bernd triggered to the extreme.
He hasn’t gotten to that episode yet. Or at least he hasn’t released a review.

The latest one is Time Amok. First non-review article on Prodigy is the time travel in Time Amok
 
Would have bern nice ..
Instead of the random Trill, it was Ezri Dax and then show janeway, then the Aventine eating away.. Owell.. Opportunity lost.
Don't like the new design daultless.. Just.. Ugly

Seems there not going the book route.. And that eben in 32nd century benemite was rare.. I would have hoped they'd find another example of technology. Or use the slower method used by voyager to chase arcturas that didn't need benemite.
 
The construction of the USS. Dauntless was started in 2379, and the class she belong to, work was started 2375, the same year the Doctor contacted Star Fleet through USS. Prometheus and work on the USS Protostar begun. It is unlikely that Star Fleet got the design from Arturis. It's likely he gotten the design from Star Fleet.
Voyager crew did question about Arturis USS. Dauntless. Base on it's a few months after the Doctor message to Star Fleet, including it design, but met Star Fleet design plans of future starships class, which Captain Janeway might had seen.
 
What's that from?
It's from thinking things out and base on Admiral Hays true message to Voyager said. The Message of working on a starship that was fast enough to reach Voyager was true. Having the ship already was untrue.
Also Arturis needed a design that was a Star Fleet. convincing starship to fool Voyager crew, which he pay someone to build it. I think he mention whom he pay to built it in the episode. He may have gotten the design from Star Fleet that Admiral Hays of starships that was being consider in the message that was sent to Voyager.
He did intercept Admiral Hays message and change the context in it to his liking and would have time to have his Dauntless built and before he'd sent the fake Admiral Hays message.
 
Seems there not going the book route.. And that eben in 32nd century benemite was rare.. I would have hoped they'd find another example of technology. Or use the slower method used by voyager to chase arcturas that didn't need benemite.

I know.
The v1 of Slipstream never needed Benemite crystals to work. The Benemite was introduced in v2 of QS technology which VOY crew developed thanks to their encounter with the fake Dauntless.
V2 indeed required use of Benemite crystals, but this version also had a Quantum Matrix and Borg technology (none of which were mentioned the first time around) and it was much faster (10 000 Ly's per minute).

V1 of Slipstream topped out at 300 Ly's per hour (this would have been maximum speed for shorter durations), whereas the slower 'sustainable' speed (which was expected to be run continuously for 3 months on the Dauntless to cross 60 000 Ly's) would have topped out at around 666,6666 Ly's per day (or about 10.8 times slower than the 'maximum v1 QS speed').

The benefit of V1 Slipstream was that it was still fairly superior to regular Warp speeds as presented in TNG and onward without needing Benemite crystals (and it could be powered through a power source that DIDN'T require Antimatter or Dilithium), so the only thing that needed to be resolved with v1 was the matter of Quantum Stresses which pounded VOY's hull while in transit... but I'd suspect that this could fairly easily be solved with analyzing how the Quantum Stresses impact the ship's hull and then reinforce the SIF with a variant of a quantum field (or a similar gimmick) which would effectively solve the problem... or at least, allow VOY to remain in transit for longer periods of time before having to shut down the drive and repair the hull before doing it again.

After all, if it takes VOY 2 days to cross 15 Ly's at 'high warp' (like it did in 'Hope and Fear' episode).. its highly likely the crew can make needed repairs to the hull in 2 or 4 days at maximum and remain stationary during that time.

4 days would result in VOY crossing about 30 Ly's at 'high Warp'... whereas just 1 hour at highest v1 QS = 300 Ly's (or 10x more).

So, every 4 days, the ship could have made 300 Ly jumps, and crossed 2250 Ly's in about 30 days... or 27 375 Ly's in 1 year.
After 2.2 years, they'd cross over 60 224 Ly's and be back home (even if by some 'miracle' the crew couldn't find a way to eliminate the quantum stress problem in all that time... and I sincerely doubt that).

But, Prodigy writers basically said the real SF Dauntless is capable of Quantum Slipstream, but it wuld be used sparingly due to Benemite crystals which are difficult to synthesize.
So, Prodigy writers might be making the same mistake Discovery did... ignoring that v1 of QS technology never needed Benemite, and are now almost treating Benemite as a necessary component to Quantum Slipstream (which is accurate for v2, but v1 never needed that).
 
So, Prodigy writers might be making the same mistake Discovery did... ignoring that v1 of QS technology never needed Benemite, and are now almost treating Benemite as a necessary component to Quantum Slipstream (which is accurate for v2, but v1 never needed that).

There's nothing in Hope and Fear that says the Dauntless's QS doesn't need benemite, but there's also nothing that says it does need it. So the Prodigy and Discovery writers aren't technically wrong saying it's needed, as Hope and Fear doesn't say either way.
 
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