Flynn's back, but not his son? Is there gonna be nay continuity to it or is it another soft reboot?
Tron: Ares
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Yeah that was maybe my thinking. I hope not.
Also didn't Flynn/Clu die?
That was left intentionally vague.
Tron 2 crossed that rubicon when Quorra came up into the real world.
Arguably, getting converted into something real is merely the other shoe dropping vis-à-vis Flynn going the other way, getting digitized and loaded onto the Grid in the original film, something that is literally absolutely impossible. What's more impossible than impossible?
That was "just" creating a flesh and blood body for a digital consciousness. Science fiction magic to be sure. But that presumably didn't give her the power to fly or shoot lasers from her eyes. The magic was that she became a person.
Put another way: If you cut Flynn's arm off in the Grid he wouldn't have had exposed muscle and blood. He would have gone all de-rezzy. This is a guess, I admit. Another example from Tron: Flynn could drink the same power source that Ram and Tron did. He physically behaved like a program.
If Quorra was hurt in a motorcycle accident she would presumably not derez.
There is a scene in Tron 2 where Sam is injured and actually bleeds real blood, causing a program to immediately recognize him as a User. So if his father were injured in that manner he would also bleed and display human injuries.
I finally had a chance to watch the trailer. Visually, it looks fantastic and I'm pleasantly surprised to hear Jeff Bridges has returned in some capacity, especially since last I read, he wasn't returning.
However, I'm very skeptical about Jared Leto who I've never been a big fan of and at best tolerate (such as in Blade Runner 2049). At least he's balanced out by Gillian Anderson, Greta Lee, and Jodie Turner-Smith.
I'm also still really bummed out by the lack of Garrett Hedlund, Olivia Wilde, and Bruce Boxleiter (how do you have a Tron film without Tron?!). I hadn't heard about the reshoots so maybe they're included in some small fashion, but that won't be enough since they should have bigger parts in the film.
I'm also sad we won't have Cillian Murphy returning, but apparently Evan Peters will fill in the Dillinger role as a different son. Honestly, Leto should've played a Dillenger. He's better suited for such a role than the hero.
However, I'm very skeptical about Jared Leto who I've never been a big fan of and at best tolerate (such as in Blade Runner 2049). At least he's balanced out by Gillian Anderson, Greta Lee, and Jodie Turner-Smith.
I'm also still really bummed out by the lack of Garrett Hedlund, Olivia Wilde, and Bruce Boxleiter (how do you have a Tron film without Tron?!). I hadn't heard about the reshoots so maybe they're included in some small fashion, but that won't be enough since they should have bigger parts in the film.
I'm also sad we won't have Cillian Murphy returning, but apparently Evan Peters will fill in the Dillinger role as a different son. Honestly, Leto should've played a Dillenger. He's better suited for such a role than the hero.
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Yep. That tracks. He's kind of like Jim Carey like that. His portrayal of Andy Kaufman was of particular note there - and Kaufman himself was also pretty much the same way back then.
He doesn't just play a role, he embodies it. "Method-plus".
This is also true.It's a pity his commitment doesn't guarantee results.
At least, for Ledo.
Why on Earth they got Boxleitner and Bridges back for Legacy but not David Warner is beyond me. RIP.
I was afraid I missed something like that. Thanks.
I still don't think that allows for Light Cycles in the Real World. No matter what kind of magic is going on underneath Flynn's Arcade.
I was mostly fine with that decision because of the set-up with Cillian Murphy. Dillinger's son working from behind the scenes and would rise to become the main villain in the next film.
Plus, there isn't any room for MCP or Dillenger in the story that Legacy set out to tell.
I mean CLU was planning an invasion of the real world so what were his troops going to?
They were going to be an army.
Also, CLU by definition was not a BIG PICTURE kind of fellow.
Yes, but how would they interact in the real world?
If Sam bleeds would they derez? Could they be shot?
By being in the real world. The same way Quorra interacted with Sam's motorcycle. CLU was bringing an army. He wasn't bringing artillery.
How was an army going to manifest through the laser in Flynn's arcade? Like I said, I'm not sure CLU thought this through.
So, theoretically, he could bring anything out of the Grid to the real world to support his army. Like light cycles or recognizers. It's the same principle of the army on a bigger scale.
If the Encom laser can make recognizers in the real world then the solution is to quit using F-22s and simply tell the laser to make more video game ships that people can use against the invaders.
CLU's invading point of entry was a piece of hardware that had been running in a basement of a shuttered building for 25 years that allowed a single person to digitize his consciousness onto the System.
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Yes, that would be scaling up the tech. A reasonable expectation to me.
I've been trying to figure out what was going on with this since the story and cast were announced. It seems strange that the whole movie is based around programs coming out of The Grid and into the real world, but yet there's no mention of Sam and Quorra or the events of Legacy. We are just going off of brief descriptions and one trailer, so they could still at least acknowledge the events of Legacy in the final movie, but you'd think if this was building off the end Legacy, they'd be a big enough part of the movie we would have heard about them being in it by now.
I'm seriously starting to suspect this is a reboot that's ignoring Legacy.
And that would be about the worst decision they could make. (Which of course means that's the decision they'll make...) Tron 2.0 was a video game, so you could get away with ignoring that on Legacy, but turning around and ignoring that film in turn? That's Highlander territory, and Legacy was (thankfully) no 'The Quickening'.
What seems especially strange to me is that they're still going in the direction that was set up in Legacy, and you'd think if they were going to really reboot things they'd go in a totally different direction.
I couldn't remember Flynn's fate in Legacy so checked his Disney Wiki page, and he died, so the fact that Bridges is back could be another indicator that they're ignoring Legacy.
I couldn't remember Flynn's fate in Legacy so checked his Disney Wiki page, and he died, so the fact that Bridges is back could be another indicator that they're ignoring Legacy.