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Transcendence trailers, Singularity movie w/ Johnny Depp & M. Freeman

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You know, I'm actually looking forward to the movie as an interesting looking scifi movie, and not as a promotional vehicle for your techno-religious dogma as you've made it out to be. Be careful you don't poison the well for people and make them dislike the movie or root against its success because they dislike the way you've hijacked it and made it out to be like a sign from Digital Jesus.
 
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Ten dollars the film end with people returning to an agrarian lifestyle.

I am just sick of the anti-tech nonsense.

Giving society cheap, abundant energy … would be the equivalent of giving an idiot child a machine gun.

- Paul Ehrlich, “An Ecologist’s Perspective on Nuclear Power”, May/June 1978 issue of Federation of American Scientists Public Issue Report

I'll be missing this movie.
 
Re: Transcendence trailers, Singularity movie w/ Johnny Depp & M. Free

I want a movie where a human downloads his brainwaves, controls a 3D printer then prints themselves a new body.
It's hard to tell for sure, but based on the trailer, it looks like Johnny Depp basically does exactly that in this.
 
Re: Transcendence trailers, Singularity movie w/ Johnny Depp & M. Free

I want a movie where a human downloads his brainwaves, controls a 3D printer then prints themselves a new body.
It's hard to tell for sure, but based on the trailer, it looks like Johnny Depp basically does exactly that in this.

I hope, it looks really weird though. I like when sci-fi actually does sci-fi decently. Last time I remember that was 'Moon'. I want a "download your dying brainwaves into new body" movie that feels more real than this looks.
 
Re: Transcendence trailers, Singularity movie w/ Johnny Depp & M. Free

I want a movie where a human downloads his brainwaves, controls a 3D printer then prints themselves a new body.
It's hard to tell for sure, but based on the trailer, it looks like Johnny Depp basically does exactly that in this.

It looked to me like his new body may have been made up of a swarm of nanites that mimic his physical form.

I get the feeling that the movie shares a lot in common with Michael Chrichton's novel Prey, especially toward the end when they're fighting the nanite swarms in the desert.
 
Re: Transcendence trailers, Singularity movie w/ Johnny Depp & M. Free

^I actually had the same thought when they were showing those clouds of nanites or whatever they are. I enjoyed Prey, so there could be worse things for it to be like.
 
Re: Transcendence trailers, Singularity movie w/ Johnny Depp & M. Free


You know, I'm actually looking forward to the movie as an interesting looking scifi movie, and not as a promotional vehicle for your techno-religious dogma as you've made it out to be. Be careful you don't poison the well for people and make them dislike the movie or root against its success because they dislike the way you've hijacked it and made it out to be like a sign from Digital Jesus.


I'm not remotely religious, and dogma suggests an unchanging and unthinking set of rules as well as a known quantity of events...which is the exact opposite of what I'm saying, so you're wrong on both counts.

As for the movie...well, early reviews appear to suggest it is even more 2-dimensional than I would have thought, but I am still going to see it tomorrow.

As they say, bad publicity is better than no publicity. :lol:

RAMA
 
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Ten dollars the film end with people returning to an agrarian lifestyle.

I was wrong it...

Spoilers suggest that it starts with them returned to an agrarian lifestyle and the rest of the film is a flashback

:guffaw:
 
Re: Transcendence trailers, Singularity movie w/ Johnny Depp & M. Free

I'm not too excited about this film. First it looks to modern. We are nowhere near uploading a person's consciousness in to the "cloud". Second it seem formulaic. Scientist uploads brain in to the internet and gets God Complex. Plucky girlfriend and some outsider who are the only ones to notice the problem race to stop him. After some eye rolling technobable, scientist dies and has a sweet moment of regret with said girlfriend. Third I hate the meme that is the "singularity". I hope our AI overlords kill us out of pity.
 
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The AV Club review certainly makes it sound like a tepid rehash of some aspects of Dollhouse...
 
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^ Uh, yeah. Both properties...

- Explore the meaning of consciousness in a time when technology can tinker with the same
- Feature flash-forwards to a time when a technological calamity has rendered the modern world as we know it kaput (this is the movie's opening scene, hence fair game for discussion)
- Feature technology in which people can be hacked into mindless badasses
- Features a violent anti-technologist(s) who may just be more right than wrong on the virtues of the tech itself
- Ends in a big-ass shootout
 
Re: Transcendence trailers, Singularity movie w/ Johnny Depp & M. Free

I still don't have time for a long review so I''ll summarize. There are spoilers if you haven't seen it:






The movie is quite a surprise. The negative reviews are of course, wrong. Far from being the Skynet derived mass media luddite scarefest, the movie presented a fairly balanced view of several possibilities.

In terms of the drama, I saw one Singularity proponent's review compare it to Her...and while you could argue perhaps that it's not as good of a pure drama, it actually does a better job giving a more comprehensive view of implications of a "Singularity"(I'm starting to think we need a better term than this).

The movie starts out as a thoughtful drama, establishes the dedication of the researchers and the relationship between Will Caster and Evelyn. Then there's an assassination attempt, and simultaneous attack on AI labs by a terrorist group. Will is wounded, but survives, only to discover he is dying from radiation poisoning from the bullet used in the attack. He's resigned to his death, but his wife and friend Max to a lesser extent, decide to set up an on-the-fly AI lab and carry on with his chimp mind uploading work utilizing the latest quantum computers. Eventually they succeed. As the terrorists attack again, he manages to upload himself to the net, making himself safe from a direct attack. Max is captured and eventually works with the terrorist group RIFT.

Evelyn is supplied with unlimited funds through stock market manipulation and other means. Will's computerized mind is operating at exponential speed, simultaneously assessing his needs and future. They arrive in a small town that meet's his needs: it is a desert town, with plenty of sun for a gigantic solar farm he wants to build. Workers are hired as the town is purchased.

He makes Evelyn comfortable and starts to accelerate wondrous technologies, regrowing plants, fixing injuries, mostly through nano-technological means. As time passes, Evelyn becomes less comfortable with the non-physical Will. One of the workers is mugged for money, and is fixed in minutes. He is later caught by a boy on video who is working for the terrorists lifting heavy objects. As Will apparently "allows" the video on the net, people flock to be healed, and Will decides it's time to show the world what they are doing.

The government comes to "inspect". Tagger, a researcher who is also working for the government, and a friend to Evelyn (Morgan freeman) is unsettled and slips Evelyn a note she should run from the place. The government decides to work with the terrorists because of the scary technology in the lab, and also because the healed people are networked and constitute an "army".

Eventually, they attack the complex. The workers are wounded as they defend it, but nanotech assemblers spring up from the ground to heal the workers. One worker is trapped in a tunnel, and cut off from Will's signals, he will be used by Max, who worked on the software in creating Will to spread a virus when he is networked again. However he dies from his injuries.

Evelyn grows more uncomfortable. Will is monitoring her and eventually she leaves the complex after he offers to upload her to make her safe. The government and RIFT with the help of Max convince her the AI is not really Will but the PINN computer they original worked with and that he has used nanotech to seed rain clouds all over the world that will eventually turn the whole world into Will's improved version of humanity networked by AI. She agrees to deliver the Virus, but Will will only trust her, and as the virus will destroy anything Will has "infected" all over the world she will likely die too if she uploads herself.

There are attack forces waiting at the edge of the city. Evelyn goes in alone and to her surprise, Will, now recreated by nanotech into his original body, throws off the plan. She hesitates but then asks to be brought inside and uploaded for protection. Will knows something is wrong but then they are attacked in an effort to speed the process. Will has already surmised she is there to destroy him. Evelyn is injured. As power fades in the complex, his networked, healed humans defend him but surprisingly kill no one as they attack. There is not enough power to heal Evelyn and avert the attack at the same time, Will heals Evelyn. She immediately realizes its not a rogue program, but Will himslef, who was never as interested in changing the world just understanding it, Evelyn was the visionary. He had killed no one in the process, and the seeding across the world based on his lab experiments, were to HEAL the world as she had stated in a TED-like gathering earlier in the movie. Pollution would be gone, the environment healed. MAx and the others were wrong, the real Will was beneficial to the world, but then as the virus penetrates, they die.

The world is without most computer aided technology. But as Max wanders, he sees the nanotech still doing it's work, and maybe a part of Evelyn and Will still resides in it.

____________


Needless to say, the movie seemed to take a darker turn where the audience questions the beneficial nature of Will, but there is a brilliant ending. Yes, mankind is made of of terrorists, Luddites and the simply scared not open to the possibilities but also those who genuinely care about the world enough to fix it, and use their knowledge and technology to do so.

This turned out to be a really great movie, somewhat sad because of humanity and it's paranoid nature. My wife was upset by the ending because they killed Will and Evelyn, but I was uplifted by the ending.

How refreshing to see Hollywood put out a thoughtful movie that doesn't pander to the us-against-them terminator shoot-them-up nature. This is but the f irst of many movies that will explore these themes in the future, and it's a good start so far.

9.5/10 rating

RAMA
 
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Re: Transcendence trailers, Singularity movie w/ Johnny Depp & M. Free

Caught it, review/comments later.

RAMA
And the point of this post is...? :vulcan:

GAITH




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Re: Transcendence trailers, Singularity movie w/ Johnny Depp & M. Free

I was uplifted by the ending.

Really?
For somebody who loves technology as much as you do, I would have thought that you'd hate an ending which leaves the world without any technology. Kind of like Revolution, or the Keanu Reeves version of The Day The Earth Stood Still. How could you possibly LIKE an ending like that?
 
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I was uplifted by the ending.

Really?
For somebody who loves technology as much as you do, I would have thought that you'd hate an ending which leaves the world without any technology. Kind of like Revolution, or the Keanu Reeves version of The Day The Earth Stood Still. How could you possibly LIKE an ending like that?

Yes, you like most of the critics missed the point. I just saw a review from even a genre site call it anti-technology. :rolleyes:

The movies' s viewpoint is not that we must return to an agrarian society, but that Will and Evelyn were right, and people were not ready for it. It boldly declares that a human mind can exist intact inside a computer...it was not a machine derived intelligence, it was human, with emotions and evolved. The nanotech in the environment is their technological legacy and may even have a part of them in it.
 
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