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Trans-Warp Starship Design-Request

Being that nobody here wants to help me -- can you give me a scifi art forum that's reasonably active where I can find somebody who would be willing to help me out?

Let me dust some of the bile off of the crusty black thing where my heart used to be and impart a little artistic wisdom to you. Especially since you sound a tad like a fellow with Aspergers so I can kind of relate to your social awkwardness.

As a person who's a huge whore for art and has acquired literally hundreds of pieces over the years... Here's how it works.

Don't ask for free artwork at random. Ever. It is the quickest and surest way in the entirety of all of the history of man to look like a mooch. Just doesn't work that way. If you have an artist that's your personal friend, it's s slightly different situation.

Generally it only works like this. You pay an artist, and give them a detailed description. They draw. They usually show you some rough sketches and you ask for a few moderate changes if necessary. The artists shows you again, and when approved off you go. (Don't abuse this.)

Rates can be extremely reasonable depending on what it is you want. Try getting to know them as people as well, usually artists are some damned interesting people. Did you know Vektor runs a gay night club? He's not gay himself, but he just prefers the drinks and music. (I kid, Vektor, please don't have the Enterprise F bombard my house!)

I don't know many people available that do Star Trek type vessels, except my own buddy Jeff.

http://stourangeau.deviantart.com/ This fellow is active on the forum as Titancreator, I believe. He does some pretty good stuff for about eighty bucks, which for the quality of his work is a damned steal. He'd have more details.

For my RPG, New Horizon, I've had to do this hundreds of times, with some commissions costing thousands of dollars, so if you're willing to own up to the notion you need to pay for art, I can offer a few tips on how to approach artists and prepare a solicitation.
 
Rather than asking others be creative on your behalf... Just download and use Vance's Toolkit to create your own ships. You don't really need to have any drawing skill, as Vance has already drafted all the parts (in awesome detail) that you'll need to assemble a plethora of starships. All you need is a very basic art program, and to know how to cut and paste. LINK

And now, you have no excuse for not creating your very own ship schematics.
 
Something to think about guys. If a lady gets in a car accident and might have problem with memory--a person can ask for something and not know or remember a previous request. Those of you who remember the Alan Alda SCI AM Frontiers program (IIRC) remember the program about a man who talked about how computers got smaller. they left the room--and well, it was like they hadn't been there...

After all, it would be in bad form for a person on the Make a Wish role who just wanted a nice cake to have chef Ramsay come in, throw a bag of flout and a bowl down and say fix it yourself. Then too, computing is hard--quite unlike surfing the web, and we can't expect folks to do things for free--but I don't think it would kill anyone to help a lady out.

In the way of payment for her--all I can offer is a concept I was playing around with with respect to physical modeling--to hijack the thread a bit.

In many trek models, you have problems with nacelles 'drooping.' Actually the AMT nacelles don't droop--they are aligned with the strongback of the secondary hull. Were the secondary hull a simple tube, this would be fine. But it is a cone section--as are the nacelles. The centerline of the nacelles is to line up in parallel to the centerline of the secondary hull.

Now most model kits have the warp nacelle to be assembled as a whole as well as the secondary hull, and the same with the secondary hull. So the interface between hull and nacelles, and getting the nacelle support pylon to line up right all makes for a nightmare. Having a straight strut connect two conical tubes--having the angles work out--all awful.

Now imagine this instead:

There are many A-frame type brackets used to hold things together. So imagine an A-frame where the joins between secondary hull nacelle, and intervening pylon are milled instead.

I don't have a scanner so imagine this as the top down view of the a-frame bracket, with secondary hull in the middle--looking down:

l l==V==l l

warp==sec==warp, where "==" is the nacelle support pylon.

What this does is to instantly line up all the parts, with nacelle bits added forward and aft--and secondary hull bits added forward and aft.

The point in all this is that all surfaces to be joined together are now perfectly FLAT and self-aligning. The milling of the bracket does all the work, and the joins between segments are not joins but molding detail now. Now this bracket might be broken down lengthwise (port-to-starboard) so as to allow ease of molding, so long as the nacelle-to-pylon--to-secondary-hull interface is maintained.

This concept works best with TOS designs, so perhaps those of you with good CGI skills can use this for templates for physical modeling plans you might have.

This might make you some money that could now be considered payment for drawing her design...
 
Your make-a-wish example is flawed. This is more akin to her walking into a bar with a bunch of cooks hanging out and asking aloud if anyone will bake her a cake for free. How many are going to jump up from their drinks?

As for the rest of that post, WTF?
 
What the hell happened there? I think someone pasted in something meant for another post, maybe?

CuttingEdge is not a limbless cancer victim left dumb from a car crash with weeks to live, just someone saying they have a short attention span and cant be bothered developing any skills beyond typing descriptions of ships they want built.
 
I do have Asperger's syndrome.

And that is stopping you from attempting your own art how?

Okay dude, that's enough. People with Aspergers run on a different OS than the rest of people. What's logical and obvious to you isn't necessarily logical or obvious to us. The only reason I can even approximate normal is years of practice.

All she did was offer me and Sojourner a little clarification.
 
For me, it isn't so much when people ask for help with art. I've been known to assist a few folks from time to time.

My problem lies with people who get bent out of shape and irritated when nobody comes to their proverbial rescue.
 
I do have Asperger's syndrome.

And that is stopping you from attempting your own art how?

Okay dude, that's enough. People with Aspergers run on a different OS than the rest of people. What's logical and obvious to you isn't necessarily logical or obvious to us. The only reason I can even approximate normal is years of practice.

All she did was offer me and Sojourner a little clarification.

Chill. One of my best friends is an aspie. I get it. But it's not an excuse to get cranky when people don't go out of their way to humor your whims.
 
Also my 2 cents with this since CuttingEdge is a woman we should be treating her with more respect cus honestly its the right thing to do. :) :techman:
 
what exactly about being a man entitles you to less respect? could we not try judging people on their actual actions instead of whether or not they have a penis? I'm not saying we couldn't be a little more civilised, but it is the internet... and frankly, compared to some places *coughgallifreybasecough* this IS quite civilised.
 
There's lots of places for gender equality debates.

This is not one of them.
 
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