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The Three Musketeers/The Four Musketeers(1973). A Forgotten Gem.

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I recently was able to find these films on DVD(it was difficult). I remember TBS used to show them during the summer months when I was a kid. And I absolutely loved them. I was wondering if they held up, and I was rewarded thankfully. These are easily some of the funniest movies I've ever seen. The non-stop situational comedy and one-liners had us rolling for 4 hours. It's almost like a Monty Python vehicle at times. The silliness and slap-stick is almost too much to bare. And it's not predictable comedy either, because much of it is rapid fire so you never know where it's going to come from next. The part where they pretend to get in a fight with each other at the inn so they can underhandedly steal all the food, because Porthos lost all of their money betting on a homeless person fight, is just pure genius.

Rachel Welch was so great in this movie as Constance, D'Artaganian's married girlfriend. Take Jar Jar Binks and his nack for saving the day with pure, chaotic, unpredictable clumsiness. Now make him a really cute French girl, and you have Constance. Her comedic timing was so good in this film, I can't believe she wasn't in more comedy roles. But Oliver Reed's portrayal of Athos just has to be seen to be believed. He's so scary-intense in this film he'll give you shivers. He's like a damn rotweiler. He's always aggressive, always on the attack. His fighting style is less finese and more brawler. He'll take some swings with his sword, then get pissed off that he missed, take the sword by the blade and try beating his enemy to death with it. And when that doesn't work he'll throw it at his enemy, then pick up the nearest random object(chair, wet towel, you name it) and then try to beat his enemy to death with it. I would have loved to have seen him fight like this when he played Proximo in Gladiator. He would have made everyone forget about Russell Crowe.

Because this is what makes these movies awesome: The fights. These are not Earol Flynn back-and-forth dashing duels. They're slap-stick, nasty, in-your-face, brawls where kicking, hitting, bitting, and cheating like a wrestling villain is par for the course. You never know what's going to happen in a fight in these movies or where they're going to occur at.

And it's quite faithful to the book as well, surprisingly. They cut out a few things(Lord DeWinter, Feltcher is barely given any development) but overall it's pretty faithful. The second movie is much more serious in tone then the first, but that's not a bad thing as the stakes are higher and the cost at the end is severe. And Athos and Micheal York as D'Artagnan really shine here by adding surprising depth and intesity to, what was at first, a silly little romp. Faye Dunaway is so chillingly evil and twisted as Milady DeWinter. None of this Disneyfied tragic character crap. When she finally gets hers, it's seen as less of a punishment killing and more of a duty to hummanity, as brutal as that scene is.

They did a third one in 1989 as a TV movie. It's not bad. It's entertaining. But they change many things from "20 Years After" and the ending is very unsatisfying.

My favorite lines:

"BREAD! RUN AWAY! IT'S GOING TO EXPLODE!"

"I don't get it. Why does it matter that we do mass in Latin and The Rebels do it in French?"
"Of course it matters. That's what religious wars are all about!"

"You're quite remarkable. I've heard remarks about it."

Eat your heart out Disney. This is still one of the best action-comedies I've ever seen. Anyone else like, or remember, this movie?
 
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I love these movies. I have them on VHS tape! The whole cast shines all the way through both movies. The idea of remaking The Three Musketeers after these versions is just a waste of time.

Have you seen Start the Revolution Without Me? It is pure farce with Gene Wilder and Donald Sutherland, but I find it sits nicely on the shelf with Lester's Mustekeers.

The Man in the Iron Mask (1977), television movie by ITC Entertainment, starring Richard Chamberlain is my preferred version of that Dumas story.
 
I'm SO glad they released them as two movies (they originally were to be one, but they didn't want to cut it down).

Great casting, a crackling screenplay(s), and the swordplay is amazing.

They're just plain FUN (and exciting in a lot of places, too).

The only tragedy surrounding them was the death of the actor playing their servant near the end of filming.

Regrettably, Return of the Musketeer lacked a lot of the energy and spirit of these two movies, but it was good to see a lot of the cast together again.

GREAT movies!

(And Chamberlain's TV version of The Count of Monte Cristo is still my favorite. An excellent edit and compression of the 1200-page Dumas novel. Kept the essence but trimmed a lot of the serial fat, and didn't change MAJOR plot points like the more recent version with Jim Caviezel and Guy Pierce)

--Ted
 
I love these movies. I have them on VHS tape! The whole cast shines all the way through both movies. The idea of remaking The Three Musketeers after these versions is just a waste of time.

I agree. Disney tried to "Prince of Thieves" the story too much. Keifer Sutherlund I liked though. Not as much as I liked Oliver Reed though.

Have you seen Start the Revolution Without Me? It is pure farce with Gene Wilder and Donald Sutherland, but I find it sits nicely on the shelf with Lester's Mustekeers.

No, but now that you recommend it I'll be on the look out for it.

The Man in the Iron Mask (
1977), television movie by ITC Entertainment, starring Richard Chamberlain is my preferred version of that Dumas story.

I'll look out for that one as well. The Leo DiCaprio one was ok, I guess. The Musketeers just weren't as funny and entertaining as the original cast IMO.
 
I was just thinking, these two movies are on my list of wanting to see on a gigantic screen once again. I remember the scores were also great. They were just MADE for the big screen.

--Ted
 
I was just thinking, these two movies are on my list of wanting to see on a gigantic screen once again. I remember the scores were also great. They were just MADE for the big screen.

--Ted
I agree. It would be so amazing to see something that grand. Watching on the small screen just doesn't compare.

Regrettably, Return of the Musketeer lacked a lot of the energy and spirit of these two movies, but it was good to see a lot of the cast together again.
I agree. There were some decent parts. I can understand why they changed Milady DeWinters child from being a boy to a girl, as they needed a strong female presence in the film. I even liked her thing with Raol.
Although I also understand why they changed Raol from being the product of a one night stand to being adopted. Because it was implied in the book that the villain was Athos and DeWinter's child. Although they seemed to imply that it was Rochefort's in the movie. So they obviously wanted to avoid any incesstious-type of relationship. Which, btw, how the hell a man gets stabbed through the chest and lives I have no idea.

What I didn't like was the end. Justine just gets away, and that is that. No closure there at all. No development of the forbidden romance angle. Just, nothing. Although Young Kim Cattrall as Evil, Seductive Bad Girl = Teh Awesomeness.

And it was sad to hear what happened to Roy Kinnear. He was so, so, so funny in those movies.
 
But Oliver Reed's portrayal of Athos just has to be seen to be believed. He's so scary-intense in this film he'll give you shivers. He's like a damn rotweiler. He's always aggressive, always on the attack. His fighting style is less finese and more brawler.
Oliver F***ing Reed. :techman::techman:

He was undoubtedly one of the coolest men who ever lived. I loved him in these films; they were a perfect vehicle for him. It showed his physical presence, his charm and his ability to not only drink any man under the table, but kick the guy's ass while he's down there. He had the body of a street fighter, the voice of a Shakespearean actor and the soul of a Hemingway novel.

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I agree with the comments praising these movies (though I haven't seen the 1989 one. Not sure if it was made for tv though - I seem to recall it getting a cinematic release. And yes, the death of the great Roy Kinnear was very sad). But I don't know that they're 'forgotten.' They always get good write-ups by tv critics when they're repeated on tv.

It was a great cast, so well chosen. Reed a rambunctious Amos, Chamberlain ideal for the foppish Aramis and the brilliant Frank Finlay a perfect Porthos. Add in the dashing Michael York and the likes of Charlton Heston - total class. But as has been said, what was great about this series was the way that Athos would more or less do anything, down to kicking enemies in the b*lls, to win a fight. None of your dashing gentlemanly swashbuckling here.

Director Richard Lester went on to make Superman II & III and writer George McDonald Frasier wrote the great Flashman series (one of those novels was filmed with Olly Reed as a villain).
 
But Oliver Reed's portrayal of Athos just has to be seen to be believed. He's so scary-intense in this film he'll give you shivers. He's like a damn rotweiler. He's always aggressive, always on the attack. His fighting style is less finese and more brawler.
Oliver F***ing Reed. :techman::techman:

He was undoubtedly one of the coolest men who ever lived. I loved him in these films; they were a perfect vehicle for him. It showed his physical presence, his charm and his ability to not only drink any man under the table, but kick the guy's ass while he's down there. He had the body of a street fighter, the voice of a Shakespearean actor and the soul of a Hemingway novel.

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Oh absolutely. This performance and his portrayal of Bill Sykes in Oliver are incredible.
 
Definitely fun films, highlighting what I consider to be somewhat under-appreciated talent. Especially, Oliver Reed. Sure he is noted by the informed critic, but the general populace seems to have little idea of how superb he was. Thanks for mentioning his performance as Bill Sykes. That intensity with the lower vocal volume conveys so MUCH more malice and outright danger than any over-the-top bombast.

Still..... I have a soft spot in my heart for the 1948 version, with the always pleasing Gene Kelly as D'artagnan, the searing Lana Turner as the Lady de Winter, the absolutely Macchiavelian Vincent Price as Cardinal Richelieu, and more. I can easily understand the preference for the rough and tumble coarseness of the 1973 version over the "fluffier" 1948... but that was the first version I saw. Maybe the first Gene Kelly film I ever saw, come to think of it.


And count me in as one more who MUCH prefers the made-for-TV versions of "The Count of Monte Cristo" and "The Man in he Iron Mask". The former has the far more effective ending of Dantes' losing his love at the end, while the latter contains one of my all-time favorite film lines: "Have we not already decreed our brother's fate?" (reference to the now switched real King Louis).
 
Total classics - and, believe it or not, easily the most faithful adaptation(s) to the original book, which is just as bawdy and fun.
 
I didn't know these were "forgotten gems". Two of the funniest period comedies ever made. Always laugh aloud when i watch them.
 
Fabulous movies - I love everything about them. The cast is superb including, surprisingly, Raquel Welch. It surprised me, at least. Who would have guessed she had a gift for comedy?
 
Fabulous movies - I love everything about them. The cast is superb including, surprisingly, Raquel Welch. It surprised me, at least. Who would have guessed she had a gift for comedy?

Robin Williams?
 
I didn't know these were "forgotten gems". Two of the funniest period comedies ever made. Always laugh aloud when i watch them.

I never see them mentioned with any of the classic action or comedy movies, despite being so well liked.

The scene where they have breakfast under fire from the entire enemy force, just for the sake of a bet, is one of the best scenes in the whole movie.

But my favorite is when Athos finally confronts DeWinter and threatens her to not harm D'Aartganan. "Have you ever seen a woman...SHOT...in the stomach?" So cold and menacing.

"He has assulted me. Insulted me..."
"THAAATTTT....is impossible."
"....And he will die for it."
 
Gotta agree with the consensus - I love these movies. Genuinely funny and very watchable, and the cast is just brilliant.
 
I caught the movies a few months ago on TV, having been a while since I last saw them. They're simply brilliant - charming, entertaining, and the star-studded cast wins me over each time.

I have to get hold of them on DVD if I can. :bolian:
 
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