The Tellarite Constitution Class Ship?

[Emperor Norton]

I do not know if it was ever indicated in canon, but there is a non-canon thing where each founding member of the Federation had one Constitution class starship dedicated to them. This is an explanation for why the USS Enterprise was so human. Earth received the Enterprise. Andor received the USS Eagle. Vulcan had the USS Intrepid. But there is the blind spot of which ship the Tellarites had. I cannot find information on this anywhere, and I assume it is something that has never been covered. Thoughts?

 

[Michael]

What evidence is there for an Andorian USS Eagle?

 

[Emperor Norton]

What evidence is there for an Andorian USS Eagle?

"Andorians: Among the Clans" and Decipher's RPG book "Worlds", and the works influenced primarily by the former.

 

[Markonian]

What evidence is there for an Andorian USS Eagle?

An RPG. USS Eagle, nicknamed Atlirith.

In an 80s continuity novel, the Denebiana have their own Connie.

In the German translation of SCE Foundations 3, the USS Chandley has a Connie secondary hull and a Tellarite frigate as saucer section: https://www.amazon.de/gp/aw/d/B011R6HGRK/ref=series_dp_aw_ca_19#immersive-view_1481615038440

 

[Emperor Norton]

I mean, it's an interesting idea if anyone wanted to do a book on it. My personal effort to list the Constitution class ships as of Kirk's statement in "Tomorrow Is Yesterday" is as follows. Of this, I would say we can assume the USS Constitution was not race specific, just for the fact it was the first ship. We also assume the ships we saw on screen as not being crewed by Tellarites, or otherwise have indications of that from canon reference such as Kirk being stationed there or a human captain. This eliminates the Constellation, Defiant, Enterprise, Excalibur, Exeter, Farragut, Intrepid, Lexington and Republic. From Star Trek IV, the Yorktown also seems like a candidate for elimination. From non-canon sources that are the flavor of the moment, we can eliminate the Eagle and Endeavour. That leaves us with the Hood, Kongo, Potemkin and Valiant. Of course, this is all based on my memory and supposition. And there is the possibility that there was another ship not on the list which was never mentioned, but was lost prior to 2267.

USS Constitution (NCC-1700)
USS Constellation (NCC-1017) (Destroyed 2267)
USS Defiant (NCC-1764) (Lost 2268)
USS Eagle (NCC-956)
USS Enterprise (NCC-1701)
USS Endeavour (NCC-1895)
USS Excalibur (NCC-1664)
USS Exeter (NCC-1672)
USS Farragut (NCC-1647)
USS Hood (NCC-1703)
USS Intrepid (NCC-1631) (Destroyed 2268)
USS Kongo (NCC-1710)
USS Lexington (NCC-1709)
USS Potemkin (NCC-1657)
USS Republic (NCC-1371)
USS Valiant (NCC-1709) (Destroyed prior to 2267)
USS Yorktown (NCC-1704)

 

[Michael]

"Andorians: Among the Clans" and Decipher's RPG book "Worlds", and the works influenced primarily by the former.

Ah, okay, sorry. I overlooked the fact that you were talking about non-canon sources. Maybe your question would be better suited for the Trek Lit forum?

 

[CrazyMatt]

Ah, okay, sorry. I overlooked the fact that you were talking about non-canon sources. Maybe your question would be better suited for the Trek Lit forum?

Yup.

 

[Emperor Norton]

Ah, okay, sorry. I overlooked the fact that you were talking about non-canon sources. Maybe your question would be better suited for the Trek Lit forum?

Yup.

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[Emperor Norton]

I will mention that I have no interest in working purely in non-canon. What I am trying to do here is work with the "kinda canon": the works that have been taken into canon to some degree to where one could infer other items are somewhat plausible for the canon. That is the reason for some reference to "Vanguard", as such things as the starbase were used in TOS-R, and "Among the Clans" as ENT borrowed from it for elements of what it made into canon. I have no particular interest in a random novel from 1984 or whatever the case may be. Therefore, my supposition here is based on a very limited scope to infer into the canon.

 

[Ithekro]

I would guess USS Potemkin (otherwise Chekov would have headed over to that ship for cultural reasons).

Also it has a non-17xx number so it might have been assigned differently than the others (speculation).

 

[Lieut. Arex]

It's incorporating ENT, but I'd say Kumari, would be a good bet for an Andorian sponsored/crewed Constitution class. Another question was Intrepid's Hull painted the same gray as the other Connies we saw or was she the same red as the Ent era Vulcan ships?

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Another question was Intrepid's Hull painted the same gray as the other Connies we saw or was she the same red as the Ent era Vulcan ships?

Gray.

 

[Emperor Norton]

It's incorporating ENT, but I'd say Kumari, would be a good bet for an Andorian sponsored/crewed Constitution class. Another question was Intrepid's Hull painted the same gray as the other Connies we saw or was she the same red as the Ent era Vulcan ships?

In terms of TOS-R, it appeared the same as the Big E.

 

[Emperor Norton]

I would guess USS Potemkin (otherwise Chekov would have headed over to that ship for cultural reasons).

Also it has a non-17xx number so it might have been assigned differently than the others (speculation).

It could be the Potemkin. I thought the Valiant could also make sense. It sounds like a properly proud pig, egotistical name for a Tellarite ship. And it could be translated easily into the Tellarite language as it is not Earth specific.

 

[Emperor Norton]

So I had an idea last night, totally on the fly and totally made up. It is something that sounds like what D.C. Fontana and Bob Justman would come up with if push came to shove. So it is my attempt to emulate a missing piece in the style of the people who would have made it.

I came up with the name USS Resolute. It is a fancy word for pigheaded and argumentative, and seems right up the Tellarites' alley. None of the other ship names really fit, so I invented one that sounded like the writers could have made it up. So my thinking is, either this blew up prior to 2267. Or, the Tellarites being Tellarites, maybe they had a hissy fit and withdrew it from Starfleet service prior to 2267. Again, totally made up and based on nothing but sounding right.

 

[Albertese]

I like it.

--Alex

 

[Emperor Norton]

I like it.

--Alex

I don't know if Resolute or Resolution is the better name. The latter is the name of a long series of Royal Navy ships.

 

[Emperor Norton]

Resolution is a more regal ship with a stronger history. However, Resolute works from the perspective of syllables. It has three, which is in keeping with naming conventions. It also takes a HMS name and converts it to a more direct name. This happened with the conversion of HMS Defiance to Defiant, and could similarly work with the conversion of HMS Resolution to USS Resolute. For a registry, I would go with NCC-1675, which is based on subtracting the USS Intrepid (NCC-1631) from the USS Eagle (NCC-956), putting it in that 1600 range which god knows why the Constitution class ships exist in, but they do. So there's your jerry rigged canon assumption for the Tellarite Constitution class: USS Resolute (NCC-1675).

 

[CrazyMatt]

I'd love to see someone photoshop a picture of the Tellarite starship bridge, as was recently done with cats.

 

[Emperor Norton]

I'd love to see someone photoshop a picture of the Tellarite starship bridge, as was recently done with cats.

A theoretical discussion on the internal configuration of a Tellarite ship, based on cats?