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How do you rate The Robot Revolution?


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Was there any dialogue in his scenes that actually illustrated any aspect of his character or existence and motivation beyond ‘Belinda’s shit possibly-incel boyfriend’? Half of which leaned more on autistic than incel — not least in part because a hefty part of the definition of an incel doesn’t involve them having girlfriends.
Compare to say Mickey in Rose, where he’s *also* a shit boyfriend, but it’s couches in scenes that put him with mates in the pub, or not wanting Rose near his emails etc etc. Compare to *any* modern era companion whose boyfriend is part of their intro (ex in most cases by the time they are done, some sooner than others, with the exception of Rory) and it comes up half-written. Even if we consider him *just* in terms of being the monster in the episode, he still feels half baked — partially because we are supposed to pity him at least a bit, but we are also supposed to join in the giggles when someone says sperm in Saturday evening Family Entertainment before he’s sucked up into an oddly-occasionally-intelligent Roomba.

For something else in the episode that’s half baked, let’s throw in the Pex tribute act. We always knew Pex Lives.

There was the bones of a good story here, and probably a good two-parter (even allowing some stuff *might* be explained later in the season) but it’s a rushed high gloss thing instead, with a ton of telling without showing.
 
This is one of those episodes where little things pop into your head afterwards, and not in a good way. Here’s one:
The episode is called The Robot Revolution. Catchy title.
Does not contain a Robot Revolution.
(It all happened offscreen, but also wasn’t a revolt, because it’s stated they all got on and the only implication of subservient robots is actually in the present day of planet MBC)
 
The term "Robot Revolution" is still spoken a few times onscreen though. I know, because every time it was I did either a Family Guy "They spoke the title!" or a Ryan George Pitch Meeting "That's the name of the show!" at the screen.

It’s amusing. Can you imagine some of the silly approach we could have had to it in the old days? (Where it did happen more naturally, but mostly if the episode was titled after something in the episode, like Kinda or Pardise Towers)

‘They’re all descended from the original Viking settlers!’
‘You could say it’s a curse… of Fenric.’

‘That’s my face!’
‘Yes it is.’
‘But it’s the face… of evil!’

‘Oh come on Hsien Chang, you have been ravaged by a rat, why did you help the leather faced chap?’
‘It was because I was caught Doctor. Caught in the Talons. The Talons of Weng Chiang! Now leave me to chase the dragon with the smoke of the poppy.’
 
It’s amusing. Can you imagine some of the silly approach we could have had to it in the old days? (Where it did happen more naturally, but mostly if the episode was titled after something in the episode, like Kinda or Pardise Towers)
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Really enjoyed this one. Much better opening salvo than Space Babies. Yes, I agree the plot was muddled and the baddie undercooked, but I guess I was too swept up by the energy, and the wonderful practical effects, from the robots to Al's make-up - something to savour when so much else is powered by CGI or even, shudder, AI - and especially the new companion, to really care.

Love Belinda. A companion willing to stand up to and challenge the Doctor? Sold. It's already helped bring out, for me, Gatwa's best performance, and sets my writer senses tingling about where it could go. A companion who doesn't hesitate to take responsibility for her actions and choices and their consequences in a way this, arguably almost flippant at times, Doctor isn't? In the way the Doctor historically often hasn't? Just gets in the TARDIS and flies away, as has been highlighted many times by many people?

Theory: the Doctor isn't done healing. Gatwa's incarnation is actually the final stage of it, he just hasn't realised that yet. Belinda making him face up to things about himself, now he's mentally and emotionally recovered enough to do so, is key to that. Could just be wishful thinking, true, a need to give the bigeneration at least some weight, but I can hope.
 
Belinda is a great companion. Do we really need another mystery behind the companion though? Tired of it (pretty sure I said this last year too). The music also was kinda rehashing old ground. Same type of theme we had 10+ years ago. The episode was mostly meh.
 
Anyone else notice the pistols the resistance were using appeared to be modelled off Lugers? Very Star Wars of them.

Though maybe Who has sci-fi'd existing real world weapons before and I just never noticed.
 
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Though maybe Who has sci-fi'd existing real world weapons before and I just never noticed.
Plenty of times. Off the top of my head, the soldier clerics in the Weeping Angel two-parter from Matt Smith's first season were armed with modified P-90s. Classic Who frequently had Uzis with funky bits added to them to make them look futuristic. There's probably more. IMFDB can shed more light on the matter.
 
Plenty of times. Off the top of my head, the soldier clerics in the Weeping Angel two-parter from Matt Smith's first season were armed with modified P-90s. Classic Who frequently had Uzis with funky bits added to them to make them look futuristic. There's probably more. IMFDB can shed more light on the matter.

Spray painted kinder egg bits on Uzi’s in Caves of Androzani, yeah, if my dads guess was right way back when. Next episode had rather cheap glue guns as space guns, complete with using the glue sticks as power packs. I didn’t need a copy of Jane’s to spot that one, even back then lol.
 
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