Spoilers The Reason why Q sent the Enterprise to this particular Borg Cube in "Q Who".

[Unimatrix Q]

The Borg cube seen in "Q Who" and "Best Of Both Worlds" was one of the oldest still active Borg vessels.

The reasons for me believing this to be true:

1. The Borg drones seen on this ship seem to be of human origin.

2. The drones may be cloned, not assimilated, based on what we saw in and heard about the maturation chamber in "Q Who".

3. If Control is really the origin of the Borg it might be that the vessel may have acted independly from the other Borg vessels and may not be under the supervision of the Borg Queen at the time we first saw it and may have followed an older directive from Control about the aquisition of new technology. In the time between "Q Who" and "BOBW" its directives were upgraded to the newer assimilation approach because it informed the main collective that it had contact with an starfleet vessel and the Borg remembered the Federation and Starfleet and decided it was time to assimilate them.

4. It makes sense for Q to confront Picard and his crew with old mistakes made by humanity and the Federation. So i guess he might have used an older Borg cube with no transwarp capabilities and a crew of cloned human drones to do that. It might be that in most cases the Borg vessel which made the contact will get the first try to assimilate the target and Q of course might have known that as well as the fact that the Federation might have been a special case and that the Borg wouldn't send dozens or hundred of vessels to assimilate Earth for whatever reason.

 

[Dukhat]

1. If Control is the origin of the Borg, then DSC has hit a new low in storytelling.

2. What we saw in “Q-Who” was retconned later. While the Borg in that episode seemed to be one race of cybernetic humans who started the process at birth, later episodes ignored this in favor of the assimilation of other species idea, and that has pretty much been Trek’s modus operandi since concerning the Borg. I doubt DSC will go back to un-retconning “Q-Who.”

 

[Lord Garth]

I hope we're dealing with 28th Century Borg (if we see the Borg at all), through Leland, and not the Borg Origin. According to "Dragon's Teeth", the Borg existed 900 years before VOY's time. Granted, Leland could be sent back through time but you'd think the first Borg would be a woman so she could become the Borg Queen. Based on his chromosomes alone, I don't think Leland is who starts the Borg.

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

1. If Control is the origin of the Borg, then DSC has hit a new low in storytelling.

2. What we saw in “Q-Who” was retconned later. While the Borg in that episode seemed to be one race of cybernetic humans who started the process at birth, later episodes ignored this in favor of the assimilation of other species idea, and that has pretty much been Trek’s modus operandi since concerning the Borg. I doubt DSC will go back to un-retconning “Q-Who.”

The Borg could've used both methods alternatingly, or whatever the baby represented was a holdover. But for all we know that baby we saw was being assimilated as well. It would certainly add to the horror aspect.

 

[Longinus]

I really don't think that the Borg assimilating people is in any way incompatible with them producing babies too. They can use both methods. There must be areas of space where all nearby species have already been assimilated, so there must be alternative methods for making new drones.

Also, in Star Trek someone being 'human looking' certainly doesn't mean that they actually are a human.

 

[Vger23]

If I have to read another "Discovery Borg Origin Theory" online, I'm going to eviscerate myself. Slowly. With a plastic spoon.

 

[XCV330]

Frakes isn't making decisions at the top levels for this show but he has to have input, and the writers themselves are very (microscopically in some cases) aware of past continuity. I don't think they're going to redo the events of First Contact, his baby. Whatever control is, it's not the Borg. Borg have different aims, Borg have different methods. Borg have the suspended head of Alice Krige and her shiny chrome spinal cord (or Susanna Thompson if you call the Borg after working hours.. have to have a "B" crew too)

I could be wrong. I was really wrong about the Red Angel. But I will repeat, the Borg ting is a red herring.

 

[Lord Garth]

I like Control to just be Control. I like having an enemy on the show whose name makes it sound like it could've come from the '60s and TOS.

 

[XCV330]

I like Control to just be Control. I like having an enemy on the show whose name makes it sound like it could've come from the '60s and TOS.

I thought Leland was just really into Janet Jackson

 

[Lord Garth]

I thought Leland was just really into Janet Jackson

Then at least Leland has good taste in music. I like her music better than Michael's.

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That's why I used two of her songs at opposite ends of the Golden Gormaganders.

 

[USS Excelsior]

Perhaps Control can be one of the factions in the Temporal Cold War and Daniels will make an appearance or two.

 

[Vger23]

Frakes isn't making decisions at the top levels for this show but he has to have input, and the writers themselves are very (microscopically in some cases) aware of past continuity. I don't think they're going to redo the events of First Contact, his baby. Whatever control is, it's not the Borg. Borg have different aims, Borg have different methods. Borg have the suspended head of Alice Krige and her shiny chrome spinal cord (or Susanna Thompson if you call the Borg after working hours.. have to have a "B" crew too)

I could be wrong. I was really wrong about the Red Angel. But I will repeat, the Borg ting is a red herring.

I would normally agree that the Borg will not factor in, and I'd bet the farm on it under normal circumstances.

But, unfortunately, I lost all my money betting that Lorca would not be a Mirror Universe guy in S1...so I'm going to have to keep a low profile on this one.

 

[DaveyNY]

To me, the BORG creating babies by SEX, seems way to inefficient a method for them.
As well as not being something that would be possible with the way they are altered by the process.

I always thought that child was from a colony and was just being assimilated at a much slower rate for its survival.
(which is waaay creepier than having SEX involved)

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

To me, the BORG creating babies by SEX, seems way to inefficient a method for them.
As well as not being something that would be possible with the way they are altered by the process.

I always thought that child was from a colony and was just being assimilated at a much slower rate for its survival.
(which is waaay creepier than having SEX involved)

Agreed. Though even if it was born to the Borg, they wouldn't deal with all that messy sex. It would be more like how One came to be, but maybe not as fast and certainly not as advanced.

 

[Longinus]

To me, the BORG creating babies by SEX, seems way to inefficient a method for them.
As well as not being something that would be possible with the way they are altered by the process.

I always thought that child was from a colony and was just being assimilated at a much slower rate for its survival.
(which is waaay creepier than having SEX involved)

I am pretty sure no sex was involved. They make test tube babies that grow in vats.

 

[Vger23]

To me, the BORG creating babies by SEX, seems way to inefficient a method for them.

I've always said that there are cases where efficiency is overrated.

 

[Terok Nor]

There's a Borg baby in the Voyager episode "Collective". It was taken from its people and was in the process of being assimilated in a maturation chamber. I think Seven of Nine was also aged faster when she was assimilated. I don't think a retcon exists with "Q Who" and later Borg episodes when it comes to babies. First contact and knowledge of the Borg prior to "Q Who" on the other hand...

 

[Lord Garth]

Knowledge of the Borg was kind of an inconsistent thing to begin with. Guinan mentions her world was destroyed by the Borg in "Q Who". She might've been tight-lipped but some other El-Aurian must've said something down the line. If Starfleet heard it from some source, they probably filed away the info if they didn't see an immediate threat to themselves.

 

[Dukhat]

Perhaps Control can be one of the factions in the Temporal Cold War and Daniels will make an appearance or two.

Don’t bet on that.

I really don't think that the Borg assimilating people is in any way incompatible with them producing babies too. They can use both methods. There must be areas of space where all nearby species have already been assimilated, so there must be alternative methods for making new drones.

Also, in Star Trek someone being 'human looking' certainly doesn't mean that they actually are a human.

I never said the Borg couldn’t have babies; I just said that the Borg as originally presented in TNG were basically just one race of human-looking aliens who enhanced themselves with cybernetic implants from birth. The idea of the Borg being procreated by assimilating other races came later from ST: First Contact, based on what they did to Picard as Locutus (originally just a one-off “speaker” for the Borg.) Even early individual Borg such as Hugh and Crosis were implied to just be members of the Borg race, not aliens that had been assimilated.

 

[ChristopherPike]

I probably need to watch Voyager "Dragon's Teeth" again, but I recall the Vardwar being an ancient race brought out of cryogenic sleep and they're aware of the Borg. In their day Borg are limited to smaller Delta Quadrant territory and not a threat they seemed too bothered about, so astonishment at how much they've grown. Either they had a different aim than assimilating everything in sight that early in their history or the Vardwar had an effective deterrent that kept them in check