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Not to mention, that unless one is already familiar with said language/suggestions, one is going to have a hard time to remember what it is, not to mention how to pronounce it or spell it. It may be fine for those from said culture, but, when all considered, we're a bilingual country, and it's not entirely fair for something of that nature to be imposed.

It's definitely silly. One thing we can do about the past is learn from it. But it shouldn't have to mean that we tear down everything that is now questionable, otherwise what we begin to have left is nothing that can be learned about. In my mind, the best history books are the ones that also include the things that we aren't proud/happy about. That's what makes history what it is.
 
I don't agree with the "silly" argument. Reconciliation means looking at things we've taken comfort from in new-to-us, uncomfortable lights.

Also, Canadian has always been functionally multilingual, despite the efforts of past generations to stamp that practice out. Whether the stamping-out attempts took the form of pushing unilingualism in either English or French, or - later on - through official "bilingualism and biculturalism". The process now underway is one of restoring - to whatever degree possible and practical - fully functional multilingualism. Which means support for Indigenous languages.
 
I don't agree with the "silly" argument. Reconciliation means looking at things we've taken comfort from in new-to-us, uncomfortable lights.

Everything has context though. I agree that there are things that should and can be done and that there are many things that we can learn from. In fact, it's through discussion that we can have our minds open and share ideas. I just don't think asking for the Province to change its name is a realistic goal. In my northern Ontario region, the Anishnabek language has become an unofficial 3rd language with it being embraced in certain official capacities, such as with our local university, and recently at the closest provincial park to us, two observatories were given Anishnabek names. In a similar manner, I think it would be far more sensible for a native Province name to become accepted officially alongside the two others rather than replace it wholesale.
 
And I see we're off. Trudeau the Younger and Mary Simon had their conversation this morning, as expected.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/federal-election-call-1.6141189

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Well, can’t say we didn’t know it was coming.

I’ve set up a dedicated thread for election discussion here. This way people who want to continue reading this thread but avoid election talk can do so, and those who want to discuss election-related things can do it in a focused thread.
 
I just don't think asking for the Province to change its name is a realistic goal.

Seconded.

Trying to eliminate all traces of the name "Columbus" from the English language is 1) misguided, and 2) doomed to fail.

Not only because of the sheer logistics of it (there's got to be hundreds, if not thousands, of place names derived from his name), but also...come on. Let's get real here. While Christopher Columbus may have done some bad things, he also did some GOOD things. Do we now judge people only on their bad acts, and ignore the good? Where does it end?

Besides, YOU try telling the entire Italian community that one of their most cherished figures is now "cancelled". :lol:
 
Oh, that's likely changing by the day where Cristoforo Colombo is concerned, I expect. Also, the "good things" argument? Not holding up so well either.
 
Seconded.

Trying to eliminate all traces of the name "Columbus" from the English language is 1) misguided, and 2) doomed to fail.

Not only because of the sheer logistics of it (there's got to be hundreds, if not thousands, of place names derived from his name), but also...come on. Let's get real here. While Christopher Columbus may have done some bad things, he also did some GOOD things. Do we now judge people only on their bad acts, and ignore the good? Where does it end?

Besides, YOU try telling the entire Italian community that one of their most cherished figures is now "cancelled". :lol:

As a nation, we are currently working through the process of coming to terms with the legacy of one of our most prominent Fathers of Confederation, and the first Prime Minister of Canada, including the possible renaming of any institutions named in his honour. (Think of this as similar to the United States looking at and potentially renaming everything named after George Washington.)

Do you really think we would suddenly draw the line at Columbus, of all people?
 
Do we now judge people only on their bad acts, and ignore the good? Where does it end?

I'm not even going to say good or bad, but that rather, I think for a fair and balanced view of history, we need both sides of history to tell their stories so that we can learn from them. It's important to accept and realize that mistakes were made in history, but all the same we're never going to be perfect. There are certain aspects where renaming something makes sense. Maybe it's something worth doing, but I think an understanding as to "why" needs to be made, and it's something we as a Country are still grappling with.

Btw, I urge everyone to watch or read Indian Horse. The movie is based on the book by Richard Wagamese, and it's so very pertinent to what's happening today with the discovery of what's happened in residential schools. I highly recommend it. And it's one of the only movies to tackle the subject, and head-on.
 
Next time you do, you must visit the Muskokas, or Manitoulin Island. I live not far from the island, about an hour and a half. If you like astronomy, it has some of the darkest skies around.

I would LOVE to see Rouleau (where Corner Gas was filmed), but I would have no idea how to actually get there. I guess I'm just too attached to the big cities - stray too far from them, and I fold up like a deck chair. Pathetic, isn't it? :lol:
 
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Last I heard, the sets were torn down because they were sinking and had serious weather damage.
Yep. Those Saskatchewan winters were taking their toll. If those buildings get rebuilt, it'll have to be with those winters as firmly in mind as the tourism revenue possibilities.
 
Also the Foo Mart burned down. :(

(IIRC, it was not an actual grocery store in real life, but some kind of office building)
 
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Yep. Those Saskatchewan winters were taking their toll. If those buildings get rebuilt, it'll have to be with those winters as firmly in mind as the tourism revenue possibilities.

Yeah, and they likely never were meant to stand as long as they did. Which is a shame, because while they were standing, they were a great boon for the local tourism, and I think it'd be great if they could rebuild it and make it a permanent attraction, and maybe even make a small local chain out of it. I can't remember what they had to do for the movie. I think by then it had already sunk quite a bit and they had to rebuild it.

LB, have you seen the movie?
 
In that one ep where Wanda says she likes Street Legal, and Oscar replies "Street Legal sucked!", I actually got the joke, despite never actually having seen that show. :lol:
 
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