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Sorry for the double post but I'm curious about something:

Fans in Premier League matches seem to chant and sing a lot. I think this is really cool, but how do they know WHEN to do so? They all seem to start at the same time, so there must be some sort of rule or guideline they're following. How do they know when, and what, they should sing or chant?

Usually you get an individual or small group start and everyone joins in.
 
Sorry for the double post but I'm curious about something:

Fans in Premier League matches seem to chant and sing a lot. I think this is really cool, but how do they know WHEN to do so? They all seem to start at the same time, so there must be some sort of rule or guideline they're following. How do they know when, and what, they should sing or chant?

Coming back from a PL game today with my beloved Nottingham Forest (We won 2-0 :biggrin:)...

Experience helps because you get used to just knowing when to sing and not to sing. We have sections in the ground designed to start the songs and then it just spreads infectiously throughout the stadium.

We have a pre-match song that we sing just before kick off starts so everyone knows when to start that (stadium plays Mull of Kintyre over the speakers)...

Mull of Kintyre - Nottingham Forest (youtube.com)

When we score, we have a song that we sing at the opposition fans...

Nottingham Forest 4-0 Reading | You've Lost That Loving Feeling (youtube.com)

Songs specifically for certain players, our club or towards the opposition are generally started by certain blocks and others will just copy within seconds.
 
Thanks, guys. Very helpful. If, by some wild stroke of luck, I actually manage to make it to Anfield, I'm gonna need all the help I can get! :techman:

Edit: No offense to any Brentford fans reading this but oh my God that is the strangest looking stadium I have ever seen. :lol:
 
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Thanks, guys. Very helpful. If, by some wild stroke of luck, I actually manage to make it to Anfield, I'm gonna need all the help I can get! :techman:

Edit: No offense to any Brentford fans reading this but oh my God that is the strangest looking stadium I have ever seen. :lol:

A football crowd is a strange being - like you sense the ebb and flow of the game, or a moment of madness hits and one person goes with others getting involved around them.

I've been going to Anfield for 20 years now and other than a handful of triggers (YNWA as players walk out; singing the song of a specific player if they do something good/get hurt; calling the ref a Manc Bastard because they all are) it is entirely organic and whoever shouts loudest/gets people around them going gets the song started and people generally fall into place
 
Thanks, guys. Very helpful. If, by some wild stroke of luck, I actually manage to make it to Anfield, I'm gonna need all the help I can get! :techman:

Edit: No offense to any Brentford fans reading this but oh my God that is the strangest looking stadium I have ever seen. :lol:
I like it. I like how they didn't over do it and have the capacity to suit their fanbase.

They are a fantastic example of a smaller club who lived within their means and have become an established premier league team.

My club (Derby) are arguably a bigger club, certainly from fanbase and history but with a recent history of very poor financial management. At least we seem to be on a sounder footing now.

I'm jealous of what they have achieved.
 
I like it. I like how they didn't over do it and have the capacity to suit their fanbase..

Just to be clear I was talking about Brentford's stadium. Apologizings if anybody thought I meant Anfield.

Anfield looks really cool. I would LOVE to go to a match there. Just not entirely sure about how I'd actually GET there. But that's a matter for another day. :lol:
 
Just to be clear I was talking about Brentford's stadium. Apologizings if anybody thought I meant Anfield.

Anfield looks really cool. I would LOVE to go to a match there. Just not entirely sure about how I'd actually GET there. But that's a matter for another day. :lol:
No I knew you meant Brentford.

Its very difficult for small clubs to establish in the Premier League because of the money involved. So Brentford are a great example to clubs trying to get there.
 
I genuinely did not mean to insult any Brentford supporters here but it just seems so weird when the end stands in that stadium aren't symmetrical.

Must be the OCD kickin' in. :lol:

And it looks like there are apartments there with full view of the pitch. I bet the rent ain't cheap. :eek:
 
I genuinely did not mean to insult any Brentford supporters here but it just seems so weird when the end stands in that stadium aren't symmetrical.

Must be the OCD kickin' in. :lol:

And it looks like there are apartments there with full view of the pitch. I bet the rent ain't cheap. :eek:
No didn't think you were insulting anyone. :)

Not sure if its built that way to let them expand it, some of the new stadiums are built with that in mind.

Anfield is a different beast altogether. Will be interesting to see what Liverpools neighbours new stadium is like, although depending on punishments Everton could well end up playing in the championship on their first season in it.
 
Eff Everton, their new stadium can be in the Mersey. :shifty:

Liverpool is my PL club to the extent I have one too, though I've fallen off in watching in recent years.

Gonna miss Kloppo a lot, he's been a huge part of making the Reds what they are lately and is a wonderful manager. I really hope he doesn't end up at Bayern (:barf2:) but if he does then God knows he's earned it. It'll be sad to root against him.
 
I'm so glad that Jurgen is a red!!!!

Just got back to the hotel after being there today and what a fucking beautiful man is Jurgen

8 academy players involved today

Never stopped believing!

My first managerial love was Rafa but Jurgen is just a different gravy

Eff Everton, their new stadium can be in the Mersey. :shifty:

Liverpool is my PL club to the extent I have one too, though I've fallen off in watching in recent years.

Gonna miss Kloppo a lot, he's been a huge part of making the Reds what they are lately and is a wonderful manager. I really hope he doesn't end up at Bayern (:barf2:) but if he does then Fowler knows he's earned it. It'll be sad to root against him.

FTFY
 
I like it. I like how they didn't over do it and have the capacity to suit their fanbase.

They are a fantastic example of a smaller club who lived within their means and have become an established premier league team.

My club (Derby) are arguably a bigger club, certainly from fanbase and history but with a recent history of very poor financial management. At least we seem to be on a sounder footing now.

I'm jealous of what they have achieved.

What I'm not the only Ram on the BBS? :)

Hopefully we'll never let ourselves get in the mess we did again, but sadly however well run you are you can't rule out some idiot taking you over and ruining things, and the curse of the well run established premier league team is that owners and the fan base start to want more and while this can work, often it's a recipe for disaster. Look at Stoke, never in any danger of going down while Pullis was there but they strove for more and though initially they performed better once he was gone, it wasn't long before things fell apart and now they're battling relegation in the Championship.
 
What I'm not the only Ram on the BBS? :)

Hopefully we'll never let ourselves get in the mess we did again, but sadly however well run you are you can't rule out some idiot taking you over and ruining things, and the curse of the well run established premier league team is that owners and the fan base start to want more and while this can work, often it's a recipe for disaster. Look at Stoke, never in any danger of going down while Pullis was there but they strove for more and though initially they performed better once he was gone, it wasn't long before things fell apart and now they're battling relegation in the Championship.

No doubt there is always a 'we deserve more' aspect with fans. To be honest I've seen it said lots about us, 'we deserve better than league 1', not in my opinion, no fans deserve any more than any others. Man Utd fans deserve better so I keep hearing, no they don't, same with any time, arsenal deserve to win something because of their stadium, no they dont.

It's this expectation and demands of success that leads to exactly the situation you mentioned with Stoke.

I hope we have turned a corner, Mel took a team mostly put together on frees that was a whisker away and spent millions turning us into a team on the edge of ceasing to exist.

I will however never be convinced that there wasn't more to it, politics were involved, it was a witch hunt imo, but Mel put us in that position by bending the rules.

I could see us getting in a mess again, if Mr Clowes get us up, even to the premier league, I could see someone buying us who thinks money is the answer, it might be if they get lucky but I think with the new FFP rules it does make it more difficult.
 
No doubt there is always a 'we deserve more' aspect with fans. To be honest I've seen it said lots about us, 'we deserve better than league 1', not in my opinion, no fans deserve any more than any others. Man Utd fans deserve better so I keep hearing, no they don't, same with any time, arsenal deserve to win something because of their stadium, no they dont.

It's this expectation and demands of success that leads to exactly the situation you mentioned with Stoke.

I hope we have turned a corner, Mel took a team mostly put together on frees that was a whisker away and spent millions turning us into a team on the edge of ceasing to exist.

I will however never be convinced that there wasn't more to it, politics were involved, it was a witch hunt imo, but Mel put us in that position by bending the rules.

I could see us getting in a mess again, if Mr Clowes get us up, even to the premier league, I could see someone buying us who thinks money is the answer, it might be if they get lucky but I think with the new FFP rules it does make it more difficult.

That's my fear, Clowes has done a wonderful thing in saving us and steadying the ship but if we get promoted this year I can see him maybe looking to sell us as a going championship concern. In part because I think he'd like to just go back to being a fan again, but also because in the grand scheme of things he isn't that wealthy and I think there's a limit to how far he feels he could take us, though obviously we should aim to be self sufficient, at least mostly, even if that means getting the academy up to speed again and selling a promising youngster or two every year. As you say we need to aim to become a Brentford or a Brighton.

There was a witch hunt, yes Mel was a dick but he was exploiting loopholes the EFL shouldn't have let exist in the first place, and some team was going to get hammered, its just unlucky it was us. If we'd won that play off final it likely would have been Villa who'd have been in trouble, though not as badly as us to be fair.

Yeah I think all fans think they deserve better but as you say no one does and history and even size count for nothing
 
I couldn't watch the Liverpool/Man United match but I heard there were MU fans in the stands chanting about Hillsborough. Now that is just fucking low. :mad:

And for the record I would be just as offended if any of my fellow Liverpool supporters chanted about Munich.
 
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I couldn't watch the Liverpool/Man United match but I heard there were MU fans in the stands chanting about Hillsborough. Now that is just fucking low. :mad:

And for the record I would be just as offended if any of my fellow Liverpool supporters chanted about Munich.
They do. Not all but tragedy chanting aren't uncommon unfortunately. Liverpool fans, and others are well known for chanting about Munich. Just as it's not uncommon for opposing fans to chant about Hillsborough.

It's the minority but the minority can be a noisy one and pull in the attention.

Sadly football drags in the knuckle draggers, and yes I know that term is derogatory but if they partake in chants like this or are racist etc then they probably deserve being called something derogatory.

The majority of fans are well behaved, it's this minority that gives them a bad name.
 
They do. Not all but tragedy chanting aren't uncommon unfortunately. Liverpool fans, and others are well known for chanting about Munich. Just as it's not uncommon for opposing fans to chant about Hillsborough.

It's the minority but the minority can be a noisy one and pull in the attention.

Sadly football drags in the knuckle draggers, and yes I know that term is derogatory but if they partake in chants like this or are racist etc then they probably deserve being called something derogatory.

The majority of fans are well behaved, it's this minority that gives them a bad name.

I take serious issue with this - chanting by Liverpool fans re: Munich hasn't been commonplace since the 80s and outside of a literal handful of idiots on social media does not happen in the stadium at all

This is not a "both sides" issue

It is also not the minority of opposition fans who sing about Hillsborough or about us being on the dole etc but is the vast majority.
 
Uh, fellas, I don't want to start a shouting match... :alienblush: :lol:

srsly, I did NOT mean to start a blame game. I was just shocked and very angry to hear that this incident happened.

I'm glad that an arrest has been made and that both clubs are coming down hard against this.
 
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