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The Classic/Retro Pop Culture Thread

Kind of risque for early Happy Days.
Eh, just some guys running off camera saying they're gonna do it.

Is ROTC mandatory? Why are they even doing this?
Got me, but there was a draft then. I was gonna say that I wouldn't be surprised if it never came up again, but AIR, the in-show excuse for Ron Howard leaving was that Richie was serving in the military. I remember his fiancée becoming a regular and the two of them getting married by phone from the Cunninghams' living room...with Fonzie standing in for Richie in his capacity as best man.

He should have tried his James Dean impersonation.
Couldn't have hurt.

As Howard or Tom? :rommie:
In his case, it was a smoother transition. Fonzie's James Dean was Winkler doing James Dean, not Winkler doing Fonzie doing James Dean.

That's cool.
:techman: Ayyyyyy...! :techman:

"But not what Burger King tastes like."
Galen: What is this holding of pickles and lettuce that you sing of?

Oh, wait--they were eating nutri-pills in 1980.

In the future, data will be encoded in carbonated bubbles suspended in a liquid.
Isn't that what they did on Voyager?

The Hari Seldon of the Apesverse.
Cap looked it up.

A few thousand years, based on the pilot.
And yet all of the ruined cities still look like Mayberry...

I've done that.
:D I'll note that she didn't kick him out...

Did Virdon get the picture back?
Don't think he had the opportunity.
Wait a minute, Virdon has a family? I guess he wasn't on a one-way trip like Taylor and those other guys.
Yeah, him being a family man also came up in another episode. I think in relation to Marc Singer.

Taking out a gorilla is pretty good, even with martial arts training and TV hero skills.
Heeding the warnings of Cornelius and Zira, Ape Fu became required astronaut training.

Just take the tapes, like you did the disk.
Too much to take, too little time.

Virdon seems like a really weird name for this character. I wonder how they came up with it. It would have made a better Ape name.
We'll have futuristic names in the year 1980!

It's kind of odd that the scenario hinges on Lionel and Jenny, but Jenny is nowhere to be seen. The plot here is thin enough.
It was the show doing its thing, and helping to establish the impending spin-off.

What does Archie have to say about that? :rommie:
The expected polite reaction.

Do they even mention a Forbidden Zone on the show?
Not that I've caught, but I didn't see the premiere.

This could all be taking place in what will become a Forbidden Zone in the future. But the Forbidden Zone that we know and love is actually on the opposite coast.
Is it? Looked like Malibu to me. Just picture half of the Statue of Liberty bobbing through the Panama Canal...

Are there Forbidden Zones everywhere, like Combat Zones? Perhaps low-level fallout is slowly killing the environment and Forbidden Zones are all around, spreading like the brown spots on a banana.
Urko: This thread is making me hungry!

Now I'm thinking of that scene in Temple of Doom.
Yummy...

I wonder if he based his Phantom Girl on Glynis.
I kinda doubt it. Would he have had a reason to when he was working at DC? And an image search for her wasn't turning up anything definitive. A confirmed comic book rendition of her looked quite different. The more likely explanation is that these database guys who are so anal about fitting things into continuity that they assign an Earth number to Hostess ads don't know how to handle gag cameos by characters from another company.
 
Cockrum slipped in a few cameos in the first few pages of UXM #98. Some actual people and some fictional
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Take a close look at the skater in the upper right
 
Okay, the database guys do recognize Clark, Lois, and Julie Schwartz.
 
Eh, just some guys running off camera saying they're gonna do it.
Just the word "panties" seems too much for early Happy Days.

Got me, but there was a draft then. I was gonna say that I wouldn't be surprised if it never came up again, but AIR, the in-show excuse for Ron Howard leaving was that Richie was serving in the military. I remember his fiancée becoming a regular and the two of them getting married by phone from the Cunninghams' living room...with Fonzie standing in for Richie in his capacity as best man.
I remember knowing about that, but I doubt if I actually watched it.

:techman: Ayyyyyy...! :techman:
:D

Oh, wait--they were eating nutri-pills in 1980.
Weren't they good? I remember when McDonald's started serving breakfast Nutri-Pills.

Isn't that what they did on Voyager?
Did they? I'm surprised Neelix didn't accidentally drink their database. :rommie:

Cap looked it up.
I suppose that was a little obscure. :rommie:

And yet all of the ruined cities still look like Mayberry...
At some point in the next few thousand years, all cities become historical recreations like Sturbridge Village or Colonial Williamsburg. Which is actually kind of an interesting idea....

:D I'll note that she didn't kick him out...
Sure, rub it in. :rommie:

Don't think he had the opportunity.
Well, that sucks.

Heeding the warnings of Cornelius and Zira, Ape Fu became required astronaut training.
:rommie:

Too much to take, too little time.
True.

We'll have futuristic names in the year 1980!
I am Richard-2324. How do you do?

The expected polite reaction.
Okay, that's good.

Is it? Looked like Malibu to me. Just picture half of the Statue of Liberty bobbing through the Panama Canal...
I suppose a lot can happen in many thousands of years, including climate change and floating Statues of Liberty. :rommie:

Urko: This thread is making me hungry!
"Lackey, fetch me my banana smoothie!"

Braaains....

I kinda doubt it. Would he have had a reason to when he was working at DC?
I don't know what their friendships were like outside of work. And didn't Len Wein work for DC, too?

The more likely explanation is that these database guys who are so anal about fitting things into continuity that they assign an Earth number to Hostess ads don't know how to handle gag cameos by characters from another company.
I can easily believe that explanation. :rommie:

Cockrum slipped in a few cameos in the first few pages of UXM #98. Some actual people and some fictional
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Take a close look at the skater in the upper right
Oh, yeah, that cracked me up. I remember I had to point it out to my friend. I also spotted Nick Fury and the Contessa. But I know I didn't spot the two people in front of them or Matt Murdock.
I spotted Santa! :rommie: I'm sure I didn't spot Lois and Clark.
And, of course, I spotted The Man and The King. Are those two people in the last panel supposed to be somebodies?
 
Just the word "panties" seems too much for early Happy Days.
It's really the '70s, dude!

We need right thumbs around here.

Weren't they good? I remember when McDonald's started serving breakfast Nutri-Pills.
Egg allergy solved!

Did they? I'm surprised Neelix didn't accidentally drink their database. :rommie:
I was riffing on their gel-pack tech.

At some point in the next few thousand years, all cities become historical recreations like Sturbridge Village or Colonial Williamsburg. Which is actually kind of an interesting idea....
Mayberry was never the same after it got its atomic subway...

Sure, rub it in. :rommie:
:lol: I'm jealous, too. And of course, Virdon's would-be love interest looked pretty glamorous for the setting. They just gave her subtler makeup.

It would also explain the William Smith fight.

I am Richard-2324. How do you do?
Dude, futuristic names are like, soooo 1980s...

Something I've been noticing is how the humans in the ape future tend to have slightly off names...generally familiar but with a letter or two switched out, like Jick.

I suppose a lot can happen in many thousands of years, including climate change and floating Statues of Liberty. :rommie:
It can't be our future, the Statue doesn't have Trump's face.

"Lackey, fetch me my banana smoothie!"
I can actually hear that in Mark Lenard's voice.

I don't know what their friendships were like outside of work. And didn't Len Wein work for DC, too?
Looks like he was working for DC in those days. Among his other credits, he co-created Swamp Thing. But I maintain that sometimes an obvious drawing of Phantom Girl is just an obvious drawing of Phantom Girl.
 
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That's Julie Schwartz in back of Lois and Clark.
Never woulda got that.

Look like generic Cockrum people.
Okay, that's what I thought.

It's really the '70s, dude!
Even so, Happy Days was kind of a conservative family show.

We need right thumbs around here.
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Egg allergy solved!
By the 1980s, allergies will be a thing of the past.

I was riffing on their gel-pack tech.
Okay, I'm kind of remembering that. Some kind of biotechnology. They caught a cold or something once, right?

Mayberry was never the same after it got its atomic subway...
Tourists, mutants... it was a real shame. Andy had to put in a third jail cell.

:lol: I'm jealous, too. And of course, Virdon's would-be love interest looked pretty glamorous for the setting. They just gave her subtler makeup.
Those post-apocalyptic women are usually pretty fabulous.

Dude, futuristic names are like, soooo 1980s...
Futuristic 1950s names are way cooler.

Something I've been noticing is how the humans in the ape future tend to have slightly off names...generally familiar but with a letter or two switched out, like Jick.
Post-apocalyptic humans are illiterate and can't spell. But that wasn't the atomic war, that was the Internet.

It can't be our future, the Statue doesn't have Trump's face.
No Donnie on Mt Rushmore in the Marvel comics, either.

I can actually hear that in Mark Lenard's voice.
:rommie:

Looks like he was working for DC in those days. Among his other credits, he co-created Swamp Thing.
I should have thought of that one right off the bat.

But I maintain that sometimes an obvious drawing of Phantom Girl is just an obvious drawing of Phantom Girl.
I wasn't really arguing, just musing. :rommie:
 


Post-50th Anniversary Viewing



Planet of the Apes
"Tomorrow's Tide"
Originally aired October 18, 1974
Wiki said:
When Virdon and Burke are captured in a fishing village that employs human slave labor, they must prove their worth as fishermen or be sacrificed to the gods of the sea--the sharks.

Running along the Malibu coast to avoid leaving tracks, the fugitives spot the Statue of a raft floating out in the water. The humans unshirt to swim out and retrieve it, finding that there's an older man (John McLiam) tied spreadeagle on it...their efforts unstymied by the ominous presence of a shark, even though they would've already seen Jaws. After they carry the man into Gilligan's Cavern, he comes to and is only interested in declaring that he's dead, though he eventually divulges his name, Gahto. He's wearing a bracelet that indicates he's part of an ape-run labor camp. Virdon and Burke explore the area, eventually coming upon the fishing camp that Gahto hails from. (The fish are being used primarily to manufacture fertilizer, FWIW.) There's another shark scene here...maybe it's an early promotion. The astronauts are captured and, when they try to ask about Gahto, the human laborers turn away...though a couple take quiet interest.

The astronauts are brought in to see the camp director, Hurton (Roscoe Lee Browne), who thinks he's got fish thieves on his hands. Finding that he intends to have them executed, Virdon and Burke sell themselves up as skilled fishermen...but there's a dangerous, postapocalyptic initiation test to prove worthy of becoming an enslaved spear-fisher. Now clad in ragged cloth trunks, they each have to swim under a lake that's on fire and come out the other end with a fish...a feat of which the enslaved spear-fishers are exuberantly proud. They each succeed, and Hurton looks forward to showing off his new acquisitions to his supervisor, Bandor, who's soon visiting for an inspection. But then Galen catches up to the guys--having left Gahto unsupervised in a very bad state of mind--and pretends that the guys are his escaped servants so he can take them out. But there's another barbaric test for that. The guys' fate is now to be decided by the Gods of the Sea--the sharks. The guys swim out to where one of the gods routinely swims back and forth and Virdon, armed with a knife slipped to him by Galen, takes it out so they can carry it to shore. You'd think that killing gods would be worthy of being cut loose entirely, but a patrol ape comes to report that Gahto's raft has been found, indicating that somebody's committed the sacrilege of saving the pariah. Though he has no specific reason to suspect the new humans, Hurton declares that now their fate will be decided by Bandor.

The guys get to work fishing, because that's the best that killing a god gets you around these parts. Galen runs back to check on Gahto, finds him stumbling toward the water, and puts him back in the cave. After returning to the camp, Galen learns that Gahto was being put to death simply because he was too old to produce fish, and that Bandor knows Urko. Then the guys are visited by Gahto's daughter, Soma (Kathleen Bracken), who's been lurking around in previous scenes and wants to know about her father. Galen takes her to see him, following which her husband, Romar (Jim Storm), storms into the guys' hut wanting to know where she is, then runs outside and makes a commotion that gets him shot in the arm by an ape guard. Now he fears that he'll be put out to rafture by Bandor, and for some reason he blames the guys instead of his own stupidity.

Bandor the orangutan arrives (Jay Robinson) and gets to work banding slaves. While the guys, enacting a plan that they've coordinated with Galen off-camera, slip away with a fishing net that they constructed from stolen wagon wheel rope. Galen arrives with Soma and Gahto, now in on the plan, as the guys pull out a netload of fish to everyone's amazement...because, get this, the apes don't have fishing nets, which were invented at least 10,000 years ago. They lead the apes to believe that this was all Gahto's idea, and play up how this marvelous innovation will allow the old and infirm to produce as well...thus saving Hurton's job and Gahto and Romar's lives. The fugitives then offer to demonstrate another invention, having Bandor hold a rope attached to a spool, then going out on a raft while letting the spool unroll...which gets them around a reef by the time the gullible apes realize what's going on and want to fire on them.

Overall, this was a silly, silly episode. It puts a serious hole in the notion that they're going for the apes being at Western-era Native American tech, because they had fishing nets. What's more, the apes were using nets on humans in the first film, so the idea of using them to catch fish shouldn't be such a wondrous revelation to them.



All in the Family
"Archie's Helping Hand"
Originally aired October 19, 1974
Wiki said:
Archie gets Irene a job at the factory to get her away from Edith, but his plan backfires when she proves an incredible worker.

Archie comes home before Edith because she's been at a women's club meeting with Irene, who's got lots of time on her hands while she's looking for a job. Archie doesn't like the notions of self-realization that the club and Irene have been feeding Edith, so he informs Irene of a bookkeeping job that's opening at the plant and offers to introduce her to his boss. The next day, after a discussion between Edith and the kids about how she secretly wished for a girl while Archie wanted a boy, Archie comes home happy, assuming that Irene got the job. Irene soon follows to confirm...but it's not the job Archie was expecting. He's beside himself to learn that she's been hired as a forklift operator on his loading dock.

Irene comes by after her first day on the job enthusiastic with an idea to build a ramp so that she can unload the trucks directly, until Archie informs her that the step she'd be eliminating is his job. Archie encourages Stretch Cunningham to spearhead a petition on his behalf, which Archie won't be able to sign; but Stretch recruits Archie to deliver it to their boss, Mr. Sanders (Sorrell Booke). Archie keeps the document to himself when he finds that Sanders is upset at having learned that a troublemaker is trying to get Irene fired, as he feels that her presence on the dock is good for the company.

Irene learns of the petition, and the family gets upset when Archie lets slip that he was involved. But then Irene comes by to express her gratitude to Archie for how he killed the petition, putting the other men in line and standing up for her.

Mike: Guess I owe you an apology, Arch.​
Archie: Not to mention four years' room and board.​

But then Archie and Irene get in an argument about how she's getting paid less than her predecessor, only for Archie to blow his stack when he learns that she's making exactly as much as he does. ($5.50 per hour--which is the equivalent of over $35 today.)

Edith's job-hunting in a prior episode we haven't seen comes up here.



50th Anniversary Midnight Special
April 18, 1975

Earth, Wind & Fire

"Shining Star"
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By the 1980s, allergies will be a thing of the past.
But there'll be cold-catching epidemics when it rains.

Okay, I'm kind of remembering that. Some kind of biotechnology. They caught a cold or something once, right?
I think so. And I think they were used as part of the computer system.

Those post-apocalyptic women are usually pretty fabulous.
They have a certain glow about them.

Post-apocalyptic humans are illiterate and can't spell. But that wasn't the atomic war, that was the Internet.
I'm wondering where the Internet fits in between reel-to-reel tape banks and holograms.
 
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Running along the Malibu coast to avoid leaving tracks, the fugitives spot the Statue of a raft floating out in the water.
Speaking of the Statue of Liberty, another possibility is that more statues were built in the future, so Taylor wasn't even looking at the original.

the ominous presence of a shark, even though they would've already seen Jaws.
I'm sure they skipped the sequels, though.

After they carry the man into Gilligan's Cavern
Was there a giant spider?

He's wearing a bracelet that indicates he's part of an ape-run labor camp.
English is a very persistent language.

(The fish are being used primarily to manufacture fertilizer, FWIW.)
Raising all sorts of questions about the local economy that I'm sure were nowhere near addressed.

There's another shark scene here...maybe it's an early promotion.
Maybe sharks were in the air. So to speak.

Hurton (Roscoe Lee Browne)
Because if anybody can put the hurt on our boys, it's Roscoe Lee Browne. :mallory:

who thinks he's got fish thieves on his hands.
"That's a raftin' offense around these parts, boys."

but there's a dangerous, postapocalyptic initiation test to prove worthy of becoming an enslaved spear-fisher.
And we think Zoom interviews are bad.

they each have to swim under a lake that's on fire and come out the other end with a fish...a feat of which the enslaved spear-fishers are exuberantly proud.
Well, you gotta admit....

Hurton looks forward to showing off his new acquisitions to his supervisor, Bandor
They should have named him Smackdown or Bitchslap or something.

and pretends that the guys are his escaped servants so he can take them out.
They ran away for a better life as fishing slaves.

But there's another barbaric test for that.
I think Hurton is just making this stuff up as he goes along.

You'd think that killing gods would be worthy of being cut loose entirely
"Wait, wait, just taste this-- it will completely change your mind about religion."

The guys get to work fishing, because that's the best that killing a god gets you around these parts.
Gods are like buses-- they'll be another one along in a minute.

Galen runs back to check on Gahto, finds him stumbling toward the water, and puts him back in the cave.
All Gahto does for the whole episode is babble and stumble around. I think he has advanced dementia and the boys just fixed it so he has to go back to work.

put out to rafture
Nice. :rommie:

for some reason he blames the guys instead of his own stupidity.
Humans haven't lost any intelligence yet, but they haven't gained any either.

Bandor the orangutan arrives (Jay Robinson) and gets to work banding slaves.
Bandor the Bander? Come on! :rommie:

the guys pull out a netload of fish to everyone's amazement...because, get this, the apes don't have fishing nets, which were invented at least 10,000 years ago.
So basically we have to conclude that the Apes have intelligence, but not human-level intelligence. Perhaps over the centuries, as humans devolved, they got smarter.

They lead the apes to believe that this was all Gahto's idea
"Gahto's an unsung geniu-- quick, grab him before he goes in the water!"

then going out on a raft while letting the spool unroll...which gets them around a reef by the time the gullible apes realize what's going on and want to fire on them.
Yeah, not so smart. :rommie:

Overall, this was a silly, silly episode. It puts a serious hole in the notion that they're going for the apes being at Western-era Native American tech, because they had fishing nets.
Maybe the Apes are more like Neanderthals. Or maybe the writers just didn't think it through at all. I wonder if the show even has a story bible.

What's more, the apes were using nets on humans in the first film, so the idea of using them to catch fish shouldn't be such a wondrous revelation to them.
True, but that would be thousands of years in the future compared to the show. Unless conditions are just very different on the East Coast.

Archie comes home before Edith because she's been at a women's club meeting with Irene
Hey, Irene is still around.

after a discussion between Edith and the kids about how she secretly wished for a girl while Archie wanted a boy
Hmm. Edith has a little passive-aggressive in her. :rommie:

He's beside himself to learn that she's been hired as a forklift operator on his loading dock.
Yeah, that's more her style. :rommie:

Irene comes by after her first day on the job enthusiastic with an idea to build a ramp so that she can unload the trucks directly
But ramps were invented 10,000 years ago!

Archie encourages Stretch Cunningham to spearhead a petition on his behalf
Did Zephram actually make an appearance?

their boss, Mr. Sanders (Sorrell Booke)
Boss Hogg!

But then Irene comes by to express her gratitude to Archie for how he killed the petition, putting the other men in line and standing up for her.
I wonder if Irene working with Archie is ever mentioned again.

Mike: Guess I owe you an apology, Arch.
Archie: Not to mention four years' room and board.
:rommie:

But then Archie and Irene get in an argument about how she's getting paid less than her predecessor
Eh, easily explained by experience or length of employment.

($5.50 per hour--which is the equivalent of over $35 today.)
Four years later, my starting salary in a warehouse was $4. And, yes, I operated a forklift. :rommie:

Earth, Wind & Fire
I always wondered what happened to Water. Did they have to let him go for partying too much or something?

"Shining Star"
This is a good one. Moderate nostalgic value.

"Devotion"

"Happy Feelin’"
I don't remember either one of these. Kinda meh.

"Lady Marmalade"
Here we go. This is one of my favorites. Strong nostalgic value.

"Are You Lonely?"
I don't remember this one either. Also kinda meh.

But there'll be cold-catching epidemics when it rains.
Nice callback. :rommie:

They have a certain glow about them.
This may explain why women live longer than men.

I'm wondering where the Internet fits in between reel-to-reel tape banks and holograms.
Well, Virdon and Burke left Earth long before there was an Internet or social media as we know them in our timeline. Which is weird, because their technology is much more advanced. Maybe DARPANET stayed under the control of the government in their world for some reason.
 
50 Years Ago This Week


April 21
  • South Vietnam's President Nguyễn Văn Thiệu resigns and flees the country to Taiwan five days later. After going to Thailand, Thiệu, who was succeeded by Vice-president Trần Văn Hương, moved to London. He would pass away in Newton, Massachusetts, on September 29, 2001.
  • The CBU-55, that at the time, was described as "the most powerful non-nuclear weapon in the U.S. arsenal", was used in combat for the first and only time. A Republic of Vietnam Air Force C-130 dropped the fuel bomb, which consumed all oxygen within a radius of 70 meters, killing 250 North Vietnamese troops near Xuân Lộc, capital of Bình Tuy Province. Despite a stiff resistance by the south, the province would fall later in the day.
  • Members of the Symbionese Liberation Army, which had kidnapped newspaper heiress Patty Hearst on February 4, 1974, robbed a branch of the Crocker National Bank in Carmichael, California. Unlike previous bank robberies by the SLA, the group killed a bystander. Myrna Opsahl, a 42-year-old mother of four, who had been at the bank depositing money collected by her church from the previous day's services. Hearst was identified later as the driver of the getaway car.
  • Died: Sisowath Sirik Matak, 61, former Prime Minister of Cambodia and Long Boret, 42, Prime Minister of Cambodia, two of the seven "supertraitors" designated by the Khmer Rouge for trial and execution, were executed on or about this date after choosing to remain in Cambodia rather than to evacuate.

April 23
  • Speaking to an audience of students at Tulane University in New Orleans, U.S. President Ford announced that "Today, America can regain the sense of pride that existed before Vietnam. But it cannot be achieved by refighting a war that is finished as far as America is concerned." Earlier in the day, the U.S. Senate had voted 75–17 to approve $250 million in humanitarian aid and use of U.S. troops to evacuate South Vietnam, but declined to take up Ford's request for any further military aid.
  • Pol Pot, the rarely seen Khmer Rouge commander-in-chief and new leader of Cambodia, arrived at Phnom Penh to begin his revolutionary plans to build Democratic Kampuchea.
  • Died: William Hartnell, 67, British actor who had been the first of 13 to portray Doctor Who in the show of the same name, from 1963 to 1966.

April 24
  • Six terrorists of the Baader-Meinhof Gang (officially the "Red Army Faction") terrorists took over the West German embassy in Sweden, took 11 hostages, and demanded the release of 26 of the group's jailed members (including Andreas Baader and Ulrike Meinhof). Reversing prior West German policy, Chancellor Helmut Schmidt's government refused to give in to terrorist demands, offering nothing but an opportunity for the group to get away. In response, the group murdered two embassy employees, military attaché Andreas von Mirbach and Heinz Hillegaard. As Swedish commandos were preparing to storm the building, a terrorist bomb detonated, apparently accidentally, destroying the structure and allowing the hostages to escape after the 12-hour siege. Two of the six terrorists were fatally injured by their own bomb, and the others were captured while trying to leave. The event marked the beginning of the decline of domestic terrorism in West Germany.
  • Pete Ham, 27, Welsh musician who led the group Badfinger, hanged himself.

April 26
  • Boxer George Foreman, in his first ring appearance since losing the world heavyweight championship to Muhammad Ali (and 19 years away from winning the world title again), fought five different challengers in Toronto as part of a televised exhibition promoted by Don King as "Foreman versus Five". Rather than facing one challenger for 15 rounds, went up to 3 rounds with each fighter. The "Fearsome Fivesome" consisted of Alonzo Johnson, Jerry Judge, Terry Daniels, Charlie Polite, and Boone Kirkman, and each received $7,500 for appearing.


Selections from Billboard's Hot 100 for the week:
1. "(Hey Won't You Play) Another Somebody Done Somebody Wrong Song," B. J. Thomas
2. "Philadelphia Freedom," Elton John
3. "He Don't Love You (Like I Love You)," Tony Orlando & Dawn
4. "Lovin' You," Minnie Riperton
5. "Supernatural Thing, Part I," Ben E. King
6. "Chevy Van," Sammy Johns
7. "Before the Next Teardrop Falls," Freddy Fender
8. "Emma," Hot Chocolate
9. "What Am I Gonna Do with You," Barry White
10. "Walking in Rhythm," The Blackbyrds
11. "Shining Star," Earth, Wind & Fire
12. "Long Tall Glasses (I Can Dance)," Leo Sayer
13. "L-O-V-E (Love)," Al Green
14. "Jackie Blue," The Ozark Mountain Daredevils
15. "I Don't Like to Sleep Alone," Paul Anka w/ Odia Coates
16. "The Bertha Butt Boogie, Pt. 1," The Jimmy Castor Bunch
17. "It's a Miracle," Barry Manilow
18. "Killer Queen," Queen
19. "How Long," Ace
20. "Stand by Me," John Lennon
21. "Only Yesterday," Carpenters
22. "Thank God I'm a Country Boy," John Denver
23. "Lady Marmalade," Labelle
24. "No No Song" / "Snookeroo", Ringo Starr
25. "Shoeshine Boy," Eddie Kendricks

27. "Amie," Pure Prairie League
28. "Bad Time," Grand Funk
29. "Young Americans," David Bowie
30. "Shaving Cream," Benny Bell
31. "Love Won't Let Me Wait," Major Harris
32. "Sister Golden Hair," America

34. "Hijack," Herbie Mann

36. "Cut the Cake," Average White Band
37. "Shakey Ground," The Temptations
38. "When Will I Be Loved," Linda Ronstadt
39. "I'm Not Lisa," Jessi Colter

41. "Only Women [Bleed]," Alice Cooper
42. "Rainy Day People," Gordon Lightfoot
43. "Bad Luck," Harold Melvin & The Blue Notes

45. "Once You Get Started," Rufus feat. Chaka Khan

47. "Wildfire," Michael Murphey
48. "Express," B.T. Express
49. "I'll Play for You," Seals & Crofts
50. "Magic," Pilot

56. "Have You Never Been Mellow," Olivia Newton-John
57. "The Last Farewell," Roger Whittaker
58. "You Are So Beautiful" / "It's a Sin When You Love Somebody", Joe Cocker
59. "Poetry Man," Phoebe Snow

63. "Bloody Well Right," Supertramp
64. "Trampled Under Foot," Led Zeppelin

66. "Get Down, Get Down (Get on the Floor)," Joe Simon

68. "Old Days," Chicago

71. "Sail On Sailor," The Beach Boys
72. "My Eyes Adored You," Frankie Valli

74. "Don't Call Us, We'll Call You," Sugarloaf / Jerry Corbetta
75. "Shame, Shame, Shame," Shirley & Company

77. "Sad Sweet Dreamer," Sweet Sensation

80. "The Way We Were / Try to Remember," Gladys Knight & The Pips
81. "Misty," Ray Stevens

82. "Dynomite, Pt. I," Tony Camillo's Bazuka

84. "The Hustle," Van McCoy & The Soul City Symphony

86. "Love Will Keep Us Together," Captain & Tenille

89. "Baby That's Backatcha," Smokey Robinson

99. "I'm on Fire," Dwight Twilley Band

Leaving the chart:
  • "Harry Truman," Chicago (9 weeks)
  • "I Am Love, Pts. 1 & 2," Jackson 5 (14 weeks)
  • "Tangled Up in Blue," Bob Dylan (7 weeks)

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"Misty," Ray Stevens
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"The Way We Were / Try to Remember," Gladys Knight & The Pips
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  • The Six Million Dollar Man, "Outrage in Balinderry"
  • Kung Fu, "The Last Raid" (series finale)



Timeline entries are quoted from the Wiki page for the month.



Speaking of the Statue of Liberty, another possibility is that more statues were built in the future, so Taylor wasn't even looking at the original.
Nah, that would defeat much of the purpose/impact of the scene. It has to be the Statue, wherever it is and however the hell it got there.

Was there a giant spider?
No, but I thought of making a reference to it. I'd neglected to mention in an earlier episode when they were on a jungle set that looked familiar.

English is a very persistent language.
I don't know if it had English on it. Galen was the one who explained it.

Raising all sorts of questions about the local economy that I'm sure were nowhere near addressed.
Oh yeah, they've got factories (specifically mentioned) as well as guns, so they're industrial, but they haven't got fishing nets or windmills.

Maybe sharks were in the air. So to speak.
Unfortunately Capped.

Because if anybody can put the hurt on our boys, it's Roscoe Lee Browne. :mallory:
Looking him up, found something of personal interest...he narrated The Story of Star Wars, an audio album telling an abbreviated version of the original movie's story with actual dialogue and sound from the film, which, before I had the chance to see it in its 1978 rerelease, was one of my primary sources of exposure to it.

Well, you gotta admit....
But they're acting all hurrah and victorious about proving themselves worthy to be slaves...it was weird.

They should have named him Smackdown or Bitchslap or something.
Preshrinker.

They ran away for a better life as fishing slaves.
I think that was the improvised story.

"Wait, wait, just taste this-- it will completely change your mind about religion."
What, shark?

All Gahto does for the whole episode is babble and stumble around. I think he has advanced dementia and the boys just fixed it so he has to go back to work.
It was hard to invest in this character.

I might've given you a Rudy for that one... :shifty:

So basically we have to conclude that the Apes have intelligence, but not human-level intelligence. Perhaps over the centuries, as humans devolved, they got smarter.
If I had to rationalize for a show that makes it seem like nobody thought these things out, I'd say that their ape natures skewed their development in some areas...e.g., they may have not put much thought into fishing due to aversion to water (which Galen exhibited).

True, but that would be thousands of years in the future compared to the show. Unless conditions are just very different on the East Coast.
Inside of a thousand, but I wasn't previously clear where this show fit in chronologically with the original film. That helps me to better buy the depiction of more civilized humans in this era; but there are still the continuity issues of the astronauts apparently not knowing of Cornelius and Zira, and the presence of dogs.

Did Zephram actually make an appearance?
No, this was by phone, but apparently he did make his first onscreen appearance in the fourth episode of the season, which we'll be coming back to when able; and will be popping up again soon.

Boss Hogg!
I was stuck for inspiration to work in a reference, even though the "boss" part was right there.

I wonder if Irene working with Archie is ever mentioned again.
Her job at the plant rings a vague bell for me, so maybe.

Four years later, my starting salary in a warehouse was $4. And, yes, I operated a forklift. :rommie:
Oooh, manly. And not bad for an entry-level position.

I always wondered what happened to Water. Did they have to let him go for partying too much or something?
Elementary, my dear RJ.

I don't remember either one of these. Kinda meh.
"Devotion" was a minor hit from their previous album in late '74 (#33 US, #23 R&B).

This may explain why women live longer than men.
Mutation?
 
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He would pass away in Newton, Massachusetts, on September 29, 2001.
There's a fun fact I didn't know.

The CBU-55, that at the time, was described as "the most powerful non-nuclear weapon in the U.S. arsenal", was used in combat for the first and only time.
I wonder why it was never used again.

Hearst was identified later as the driver of the getaway car.
Patty Hearst. Classic 70s weirdness.

Died: William Hartnell, 67, British actor who had been the first of 13 to portray Doctor Who in the show of the same name, from 1963 to 1966.
Hmm. That number's not right, but the actual number may be debatable.

Pete Ham, 27, Welsh musician who led the group Badfinger, hanged himself.
Damn. I didn't know that either.

"Trampled Under Foot," Led Zeppelin
I have no recollection of this at all, either from then or any later time.

"I'm on Fire," Dwight Twilley Band
I started to remember this about a quarter of the way through, but I'm getting no nostalgic hit from it.

"Misty," Ray Stevens
No memory of this one either. Has the Mandela Effect altered the Top 40? :rommie:

"The Way We Were / Try to Remember," Gladys Knight & The Pips
Okay, I remember this one. Not her best, but some nostalgic value.

"Old Days," Chicago
Here we go! This is a good one with strong nostalgic value. Which is appropriate, considering the subject matter.

Nah, that would defeat much of the purpose/impact of the scene. It has to be the Statue, wherever it is and however the hell it got there.
That's a valid point.

No, but I thought of making a reference to it. I'd neglected to mention in an earlier episode when they were on a jungle set that looked familiar.
I love recognizing stuff like that. :rommie:

I don't know if it had English on it. Galen was the one who explained it.
So maybe not if he had to explain it.

Oh yeah, they've got factories (specifically mentioned) as well as guns, so they're industrial, but they haven't got fishing nets or windmills.
What a mess.

Unfortunately Capped.
:rommie:

Looking him up, found something of personal interest...he narrated The Story of Star Wars, an audio album telling an abbreviated version of the original movie's story with actual dialogue and sound from the film, which, before I had the chance to see it in its 1978 rerelease, was one of my primary sources of exposure to it.
I don't have any recollection of that. I wonder if it was from Power Records, the guys who did all those comic-book audio adaptions.

But they're acting all hurrah and victorious about proving themselves worthy to be slaves...it was weird.
Apes don't have nets or windmills, but they have advanced mind manipulation techniques.

I think that was the improvised story.
Galen must be a horrible boss. :rommie:

What, shark?
Yup. Shark gods are a delicacy.

I might've given you a Rudy for that one... :shifty:
Rudy and I have different tastes. :rommie:

If I had to rationalize for a show that makes it seem like nobody thought these things out, I'd say that their ape natures skewed their development in some areas...e.g., they may have not put much thought into fishing due to aversion to water (which Galen exhibited).
Also, it seems that different species of Apes have different types of intelligence, based on the roles they play in Ape societies.

but there are still the continuity issues of the astronauts apparently not knowing of Cornelius and Zira, and the presence of dogs.
The only way to explain Cornelius and Zira is to fall back on things playing out differently in different cycles of the loop. The dogs don't bother me, because it's very likely that there were pockets of survivors in remote locations that repopulated the planet over centuries.

I was stuck for inspiration to work in a reference, even though the "boss" part was right there.
He's quite an authority figure. :rommie:

Oooh, manly. And not bad for an entry-level position.
It was a small forklift. :rommie: And the branch manager was a friend of my Uncle Ken. :rommie:

Mutation?
Deadly radiation. :rommie:
 
I wonder why it was never used again.
A desperate play by a falling regime armed with American weapons.

Hmm. That number's not right, but the actual number may be debatable.
Could be an out-of-date entry as well. The show's Wiki page indicates that they're now up to 15.

Damn. I didn't know that either.
I knew he committed suicide.

I have no recollection of this at all, either from then or any later time.
This is familiar, but I probably wouldn't have identified it as Led Zep. It seems generic for them.

I started to remember this about a quarter of the way through, but I'm getting no nostalgic hit from it.
I can't say I've ever heard this; hasn't made much of an impression thus far.

No memory of this one either. Has the Mandela Effect altered the Top 40? :rommie:
I'd considered being more inclusive of Stevens, but he's still seeming kinda dodgy to me.

Okay, I remember this one. Not her best, but some nostalgic value.
The spoken intro is kinda tedious.

Here we go! This is a good one with strong nostalgic value. Which is appropriate, considering the subject matter.
Decent oldies radio classic.

I love recognizing stuff like that. :rommie:
I can never be 100% sure, but that's two likely Gilligan set sightings now.

I don't have any recollection of that. I wonder if it was from Power Records, the guys who did all those comic-book audio adaptions.
Nope, 20th Century Fox.

Yup. Shark gods are a delicacy.
Had Christmas Eve dinner at an ex-in-laws a couple of years who served all sorts of exotic seafood, including octopus and whatnot. Can't recall if there was shark.

Rudy and I have different tastes. :rommie:
Speaking of, Rudy III will be in the next episode, but as with many guest actors on this show, you wouldn't recognize him....

The only way to explain Cornelius and Zira is to fall back on things playing out differently in different cycles of the loop. The dogs don't bother me, because it's very likely that there were pockets of survivors in remote locations that repopulated the planet over centuries.
Seems like a cheat. They just didn't think these things through.

Deadly radiation. :rommie:
Ah.
 
A desperate play by a falling regime armed with American weapons.
Yeah, but I mean why wasn't it used in places like Afghanistan or Iraq? Seems like it might have been useful.

Could be an out-of-date entry as well. The show's Wiki page indicates that they're now up to 15.
The current Doctor is the thirteenth to star in the show, but taking the phrase "to portray Doctor Who in the show of the same name" literally there's also: Paul McGann, reprising his role from the movie; the William Hartnell lookalike who portrayed the First Doctor in the Peter Capaldi era; the War Doctor; also, I think a second actor played another early Doctor in one of the Doctor crossovers back in the day; also, it was implied that Doctor Ruth was a future Regeneration of the Doctor. That's why I say it's debatable, because there's a couple of ways interpreting the phrase.

The spoken intro is kinda tedious.
That's exactly what I don't like about it.

I can never be 100% sure, but that's two likely Gilligan set sightings now.
The Statue of Liberty isn't the only thing that drifted from its original position. :rommie:

Nope, 20th Century Fox.
Wow, it was released on reel-to-reel tape. Maybe that's what those future scientists were listening to. :rommie: Better audio quality is to be found here, I think, if you want a hit of nostalgia. I downloaded a bunch of those Power Records a while back.

Had Christmas Eve dinner at an ex-in-laws a couple of years who served all sorts of exotic seafood, including octopus and whatnot. Can't recall if there was shark.
I'm pretty sure I've never had either. I'm not big on seafood.

Seems like a cheat. They just didn't think these things through.
No, but you know how I like to come up with explanations. :rommie:
 


Post-50th Anniversary Viewing



Planet of the Apes
"The Surgeon"
Originally aired October 25, 1974
Edited Wiki said:
Virdon is shot by a gorilla patrol. Galen and Burke take him to a medical center outside Central City, where he must undergo an operation involving a blood transfusion, a procedure ape doctors believe to be impossible.

The episode opens cold with the shooting, no character business preceding it. The fugitives manage to get away with wounded Virdon.

Virdon: Our Blue Cross expired about a thousand years ago.​

Galen recommends a medical center where he knows the chief surgeon, Kira (Who's gonna tell that they're using Jacqueline Scott again?), who has a contentious relation with her Machiavellian and romantically forward superior, Leander (future third Rudy Martin Brooks). When Galen approaches her, she questions his recent activities and he tells her how he discovered the truth that humans and apes are supposed to be equals. Having come away with borrowed medical garb for smuggling Virdon into the hospital, Galen and Burke commandeer a wagon for posing as Dr. Adrian and his human servant. In the human ward, the senior human hospital worker, Travin (Michael Strong), informs them that humans don't get medical treatment beyond rest. Accordingly, Kira finds a lack of human anatomy in the ape medical texts. (Seems a bit forced that the apes don't even have the equivalent of veterinarians for the human servants they rely upon so much.) To Kira's disbelief, Galen gets the idea to acquire a human-written medical text...from Zaius's study.

Galen mentions favoring old-fashioned methods such as leeches when trying to sell himself to Leander as a colleague. Travin questions the things he hears Virdon saying while having a fever dream. Burke forcefully intervenes when he sees a human named Lafer (uncredited Ron Stein) disciplining Travin's daughter (Jamie Smith Jackson), now a nameless pariah whom even her father disowns, declaring her to be evil (seems to be a recurring theme). Urko takes an interest when the wagon driver reports to him of having been attacked by a human and chimp working together. Virdon wakes up with Kira caring for him while the other fugitives are going into the city undercover, driving an ambulance wagon. She's upset at the danger Galen is putting himself in over Virdon. The other fugitives get into Zaius's place by claiming that he had a heart attack when he's not home; and after grabbing the text, carry out a bust that Zaius keeps of himself or a similar-looking orangutan on a litter. Kira is highly skeptical upon examining the contents of the book, thinking that its advanced medicine supposedly written by humans reads like fiction.

When Kira diagnoses that the operation could cause severe blood loss, Burke suggests a transfer. She indicates that apes tried this unsuccessfully, and he informs her of the need to find blood of a compatible type. Burke tries recruiting the human workers for blood tests on Adrian's behalf, which gives him the opportunity to speak directly to the girl. He finds that she's the only eligible donor after Lafer ran off. She and her father explain that she was declared evil when it was her blood that killed her brother in the previous attempt at a donation.

Travin: She killed him with her evil blood!​

Burke explains the blood type thing again and the operation proceeds, with medicine advanced enough that the apes have cloth masks and Gilligan-tech respirators. Galen sells the strange procedure to Leander as his technique, and the senior doctor expresses his intrigue and offers to help...which puts them in the position of having to continue Galen's imposture during the procedure. Leander demands to see the book when Burke reads from it, then tries to slip out to report treason, but Galen forces him to stay. In the city, Urko investigates the burglary at Zaius's, arguing that his forbidden books should be burned, and learns that a surgical book is missing.

Virdon's heart stops on the table and Leander helps to restart it with a serum; following which Zira extracts the bullet and they close up. Urko promptly arrives and the fugitives slip out while Travin and Leander cover for them, the latter motivating Urko to leave by claiming that the surgical room is a plague ward. As a conscious Virdon is about to be wagoned out, he learns that the girl's name is Arna; and Kira indicates that she's had the same "accident" that Galen described to her earlier, of colliding with the truth.

James's little brother David briefly appears as an ape credited as Dr. Stole. Seems like they're makin' it--wouldn't you like to be a Naughton, too?

On the subject of Alan's surname seeming too made up:

And the toy line spelled it Verdon, which is common enough to get a Wiki entry.



All in the Family
"Gloria's Shock"
Originally aired October 26, 1974
Edited Prime Video said:
When yet another argument erupts between Archie and Mike, Mike states that he does not want children. This leads to an even bigger argument between Mike and Gloria.

The episode opens with Archie and Edith returning home from the funeral of Joe Hoffsinger.

Archie: He's gonna be incremated....And they're gonna keep his ashes around the house in one o' them silver urinals.​

When Archie casually expresses his belief in heaven, this leads to an argument with Mike about religion that transitions into being about overpopulation and kids like Joe's son being ungrateful to the people who brought them into this world. From Edith's silent but very expressive reaction to a comment Mike makes about most kids being brought into the world because somebody forgot to make a trip to the drugstore, Gloria learns that she was a "surprise package". But the part that upsets her is Mike's offhanded declaration that he doesn't intend to have kids, a decision he'd come to since they got married but never discussed with her. Archie is equally upset for his own reasons.

Archie: That kid that you don't wanna have happens to be my grandson!​

Gloria falsely claims that she hasn't been taking the pill for some time to evoke a reaction from Mike and make the point that they should be discussing these sorts of decisions. The discussion continues up in the bedroom, where Mike apologizes for not consulting her but stands his ground on the decision.

Gloria: When we got married, you promised me two things, Michael Stivic, a home and a family! Now I find out that you meant my home and my family!​

Mike brings up the ecology as a reason for not bringing kids into the world, giving Gloria and the audience a lecture about how hairspray is destroying the ozone layer. He tells her that he's open to adoption, but she feels it's important for her to have a child of her own first, leaving them at an impasse.

Gloria: Michael, don't you touch me unless you mean business.​

The argument comes back downstairs as Irene's briefly visiting so she can weigh in, getting into a bit about the Catholic perspective on birth control. After she leaves, Edith admits her disappointment, describing the sorts of things that she'd always imagined doing with her grandchildren.

Mike: Where'd you get the idea that that's how family life is?​
Archie: She's always watching The Waltons.​

Edith: Oh, my, Mike, if the Waltons thought like you, they wouldn't even have a TV show.​

In the kitchen, Edith tells Gloria of how she expected to have more years of kids through her grandchildren, but unintentionally brings Gloria to see Mike's perspective when she expresses her belief that having babies is what women were made for. As Mike and Gloria are making up over the shared belief that she should be valued as a person first, Archie consoles Edith that Gloria will have the final say on the matter...while also encouraging her to find an opportunity to toss Gloria's birth control pills out the window.



Yeah, but I mean why wasn't it used in places like Afghanistan or Iraq? Seems like it might have been useful.
I'd guess political reasons. Does seem like it might have done some good clearing caves, if it worked that way.

The current Doctor is the thirteenth to star in the show, but taking the phrase "to portray Doctor Who in the show of the same name" literally there's also: Paul McGann, reprising his role from the movie; the William Hartnell lookalike who portrayed the First Doctor in the Peter Capaldi era; the War Doctor; also, I think a second actor played another early Doctor in one of the Doctor crossovers back in the day; also, it was implied that Doctor Ruth was a future Regeneration of the Doctor. That's why I say it's debatable, because there's a couple of ways interpreting the phrase.
I'll take your word for it, but seems like they might have been going for the number who'd starred in the show.

Wow, it was released on reel-to-reel tape. Maybe that's what those future scientists were listening to. :rommie: Better audio quality is to be found here, I think, if you want a hit of nostalgia.
Interesting. I mentally totally misremembered the narrator's voice. But I haven't had that record in decades.

I'm pretty sure I've never had either. I'm not big on seafood.
Ah, I thought you were speaking from personal experience.

No, but you know how I like to come up with explanations. :rommie:
But Corneilus and Zira not having visited in 1973 ruins by Ape Fu patch.
 
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The episode opens cold with the shooting, no character business preceding it. The fugitives manage to get away with wounded Virdon.
Where was he hit?

Virdon: Our Blue Cross expired about a thousand years ago.
About the same time I retired. Too bad, I probably could have helped them out. :rommie:

Leander (future third Rudy Martin Brooks)
Can he give his Rudy Face through all that makeup? :rommie:

Having come away with borrowed medical garb for smuggling Virdon into the hospital
"Just call us the Mod Squad."

humans don't get medical treatment beyond rest
"Take two pillows and call me in the morning."

(Seems a bit forced that the apes don't even have the equivalent of veterinarians for the human servants they rely upon so much.)
True. Maybe they just consider them disposable because there are so many.

To Kira's disbelief, Galen gets the idea to acquire a human-written medical text...from Zaius's study.
You'd think they'd be farther away from their landing site after this many episodes.

Galen mentions favoring old-fashioned methods such as leeches
There's the leeches! :rommie:

carry out a bust that Zaius keeps of himself or a similar-looking orangutan on a litter
We're veering into slapstick here. :rommie:

Kira is highly skeptical upon examining the contents of the book, thinking that its advanced medicine supposedly written by humans reads like fiction.
"Cyborg by Martin Caidin. They don't even use real words!"

She indicates that apes tried this unsuccessfully, and he informs her of the need to find blood of a compatible type.
I like that they're at least experimenting and doing research, and following the same path that humans did.

Burke tries recruiting the human workers for blood tests on Adrian's behalf
Burke must have had some medical training if he knows how to type blood.

She and her father explain that she was declared evil when it was her blood that killed her brother in the previous attempt at a donation.
"Are you sure it was her blood that killed him?"
"Oh, positive."

medicine advanced enough that the apes have cloth masks
They know about germs.

In the city, Urko investigates the burglary at Zaius's, arguing that his forbidden books should be burned, and learns that a surgical book is missing.
The fact that the books exist make it harder to believe that their medicine and other technologies are so primitive. Why would Zaius and others preserve them if they're not reading them?

Virdon's heart stops on the table and Leander helps to restart it with a serum
Adrenaline or something? That's pretty advanced.

motivating Urko to leave by claiming that the surgical room is a plague ward
Implying that there are common plague outbreaks, which we'll probably never hear about again.

James's little brother David briefly appears as an ape credited as Dr. Stole. Seems like they're makin' it--wouldn't you like to be a Naughton, too?
I wonder if there are ape werewolves. That would have made a cool episode. :rommie:

On the subject of Alan's surname seeming too made up:

And the toy line spelled it Verdon, which is common enough to get a Wiki entry.
Interesting. I stand corrected. But then, there are humans named Spock, too. :rommie:

Gloria learns that she was a "surprise package".
Poor Gloria. She was an accident and her father wanted a boy. Ouch.

Archie: That kid that you don't wanna have happens to be my grandson!
Or granddaughter. :rommie:

Gloria: When we got married, you promised me two things, Michael Stivic, a home and a family! Now I find out that you meant my home and my family!
Kinda taking after her dad there. :rommie:

Mike brings up the ecology as a reason for not bringing kids into the world
It's a shame people didn't listen.

a lecture about how hairspray is destroying the ozone layer
That one got fixed, at least.

Edith: Oh, my, Mike, if the Waltons thought like you, they wouldn't even have a TV show.
To say nothing of the Bradfords. At least they didn't practice retroactive birth control, like the Cunninghams.

she expresses her belief that having babies is what women were made for
Well, technically.... :rommie:

I'd guess political reasons. Does seem like it might have done some good clearing caves, if it worked that way.
That's what I was thinking. Those bunkers in Afghanistan were pretty impregnable.

I'll take your word for it, but seems like they might have been going for the number who'd starred in the show.
I'm sure that's what they meant, but the way they phrased it got me thinking.

Ah, I thought you were speaking from personal experience.
No, just a fun fact in my head.

But Corneilus and Zira not having visited in 1973 ruins by Ape Fu patch.
Yeah, there's really no way around that.
 


50th Anniversary Viewing



The Six Million Dollar Man
"Outrage in Balinderry"
Originally aired April 20, 1975
Peacock said:
A patriot leads Steve to the kidnappers of an ambassador's wife.

The episode opens with stock footage depicting martial law in Not Ireland. Outside the Dominion of Titulary's US consulate, a flower lady named Jessica (uncredited Diana Chesney) recognizes one of the kidnappers going in disguised as chauffeur, Sylvester Slayton (Richard Erdman). Slayton gives the US consul's wife Elinor Collins (Margaret Fairchild) a story about taking her to the airport to meet her husband. After she leaves with him, Slayton's partner creates signs of a struggle in their wake and spray-paints graffiti indicating the involvement of the IBA (Independent Balinderry Army). A photo of the Collinses on the wall shows them posing with Steve...who's in Brussels with Elinor's husband Frederick (William Sylvester) and Oscar, at a conference about the feasibility of locating a secure military location in the country, where Mr. Collins is informed. The IBA demands three of its prisoners be released by the next day at noon. Against Oscar's orders (DRINK!), Steve volunteers to help Fred in an unofficial capacity.

General Carmichael (Alan Caillou) accepts a request from Crego County Dam manager Lloyd Breen (Richard O'Brien) for soldiers to defend the installation...where he's secretly holding Mrs. Collins. On the 747 to Balinderry, Steve makes the acquaintance of stewardess Julia Flood (two-time Bond Girl Martine Beswick)...

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(the one in green)

...who considers the IBA to be patriots; while Collins butts heads with Carmichael on the phone over the general's unwillingness to negotiate with terrorists. When Steve returns to his seat, he finds a note requesting a warehouse rendezvous with legendary IBA figure Commander Ten, and recruits Flood to help him on the ground. All while a young blond man (Gavan O'Herlihy) watches with interest from a couple of rows behind.

After Steve and Julia establish that they've started to establish a potentially romantic rapport, they slip out of her shared stewardess pad after curfew and are intercepted by the blond guy.

Steve: Well, Julia, it's Mr. Whatshisname. He sat two rows behind me on the plane.​

He escorts them to the warehouse at gunpoint, while Steve's bionic eye spots gunmen watching from multiple windows.

Dan, who's accompanied by Slayton, doesn't confirm Steve's speculation that he's Commander Ten, but pleads that Unit Ten wasn't responsible and is being framed by radicals within the IBA; while also trying to enlist Steve's aid in helping to establish trust with the Dominion government. Dan cuts the meeting short to rendezvous with Jessica and ask her about what she saw of the kidnapping. He learns from her, who thought she was witnessing a legit IBA operation, that Slayton--a surrogate father to Dan--was one of the kidnappers. Back at the warehouse, Dominion soldiers bust into the place and round up the IBAers, including Slayton, while Steve and Julia hide. Once they're more alone, Julia gains an OSI security clearance as Steve tosses metal barrels at soldiers searching the place and tears the hinges off a door to escape...only for the two of them to find themselves surrounded outside by the soldiers, led by Captain Abbott (David Frankham)...while Dan watches from the shadows.

From the police station, Steve makes a call to Oscar to get himself back on the books. Slayton buys his freedom from General Carmichael by offering information about the identity of Commander Ten. Carmichael then visits the Steve and Julia to bust Steve's naivete bubble about her having nothing to do with the IBA, revealing that she's Commander Ten. After Julia privately admits the truth to Steve and is locked up, Steve receives a private visit from Mr. Collins, who agrees to leave his light blue XJ6 Jaguar with left-hand steering laying around for Steve to use and to get him a visit to Julia's cell. There, after assessing Julia's sincerity about wanting to help Mrs. Collins, Steve bends the bars of their cell window to escape with her. Steve now sporting local attire that includes the ubiquitous flat cap, they rendezvous with Dan, who tells them about Slayton and of how he tailed the radical insider back to the county dam. Identifying Breen as the head of the radical faction, Julia deduces that he intends to kill Mrs. C no matter what the government does, to discredit the rest of the IBA. Back at the dam, assuming that Slayton was tailed, Breen announces his intention to dispose of Mrs. C sooner than planned.

The IBA/OSI trio rush to the dam, where Steve overpowers a guard to get them in. After they reconnoiter the place from a high vantage point, Dan is shot by guards while trying to climb down a steep hillside. Steve proceeds down to take out a couple of Breen's armed plainclothes men, aided by Julia sniping another with the gate guard's rifle. Gen. Carmichael and his men, responding to a call from the gate guard, get the drop on Steve, who tells them that Breen's got Mrs. C. Breen and Slayton then come out with her at gunpoint, and the general agrees to let them make their getaway, following which he orders sharpshooters to take Breen out. Steve objects that this will put Mrs. C in danger and rushes down to aid her. The sharpshooters pick off Slayton, and while they're firing at Breen, Steve tackles him and takes him out, then embraces Mrs. C. He's happy to be informed by a conscious and patched-up Dan that Julia got away.

On his flight back home, Steve reads a letter in which Julia expresses her regret that she has to stay in hiding and put a raincheck on the date they made for him to show her the States. Not Dublin is the new Montreal.



Where was he hit?
Somewhere in the upper body near a nerve.

Can he give his Rudy Face through all that makeup? :rommie:
He may not have a Rudy face. That was a singular phenomenon.

"Just call us the Mod Squad."
They could really use a Julie.

You'd think they'd be farther away from their landing site after this many episodes.
They're just circling around within shooting range of L.A. Central City.

Burke must have had some medical training if he knows how to type blood.
Yeah, that seemed awfully convenient.

"Are you sure it was her blood that killed him?"
"Oh, positive."
How's this?
POTA01.jpg

The fact that the books exist make it harder to believe that their medicine and other technologies are so primitive. Why would Zaius and others preserve them if they're not reading them?
That's consistent with how Zaius was portrayed in the films. He knew a lot that he wasn't sharing with ape society, and was motivated to keep them from learning the truth.

I wonder if there are ape werewolves. That would have made a cool episode. :rommie:
I didn't think you'd Cap that...I forgot about the werewolf flick.

Interesting. I stand corrected. But then, there are humans named Spock, too. :rommie:
Fascinating... :vulcan:

Or granddaughter. :rommie:
But Archie was right.

At least they didn't practice retroactive birth control, like the Cunninghams.
:lol:

I'm sure that's what they meant, but the way they phrased it got me thinking.
Things sure have gotten complicated since I had a couple of Whovian friends when there only five of them.
 
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"Outrage in Balinderry"
Okay, it's an Irish-sounding name, but they could have done better. :rommie:

the IBA (Independent Balinderry Army)
Seriously, that is not going to strike fear into anybody's heart.

A photo of the Collinses on the wall shows them posing with Steve...who's in Brussels with Elinor's husband Frederick
Once again, the hand of coincidence makes itself known.

a conference about the feasibility of locating a secure military location in the country
This is very weird. There's nothing in real life, that I know about, that corresponds to this, it has nothing to do with the story, and why would the OSI be involved?

Against Oscar's orders (DRINK!), Steve volunteers to help Fred in an unofficial capacity.
What, is Oscar sensitive about unofficial military advisers? :rommie:

Lloyd Breen (Richard O'Brien)
Not... Riff Raff?!? :eek:

for soldiers to defend the installation...where he's secretly holding Mrs. Collins.
So he faked a threat to the dam to get soldiers to guard his kidnap victim?

Julia Flood (two-time Bond Girl Martine Beswick)...
Also a frequent flyer at Hammer.

After Steve and Julia establish that they've started to establish a potentially romantic rapport
The episode does have a little bit of that old Bond vibe.

but pleads that Unit Ten wasn't responsible and is being framed by radicals within the IBA
So the radicals are trying to discredit their own cause? Did the radicals give any reason for the kidnapping or ask for a ransom or anything? For that matter, did they ever explicitly state what the IBA is fighting for?

He learns from her, who thought she was witnessing a legit IBA operation
So she's an undercover flower lady for the IBA? Was it just coincidence that she was there?

Steve makes a call to Oscar to get himself back on the books.
"...grumble grumble okay pal grumble grumble...."

Carmichael then visits the Steve and Julia to bust Steve's naivete bubble about her having nothing to do with the IBA, revealing that she's Commander Ten.
Gasp. I do question the feasibility of her career as a stewardess while handling those responsibilities, though.

Steve now sporting local attire that includes the ubiquitous flat cap
I'd like to hear him try to fake the accent. :rommie:

Julia deduces that he intends to kill Mrs. C no matter what the government does, to discredit the rest of the IBA.
Is he just a warmonger or something? I don't get his motivation.

while they're firing at Breen, Steve tackles him and takes him out
And I can't help seeing him as Riff Raff. :rommie:

On his flight back home, Steve reads a letter in which Julia expresses her regret that she has to stay in hiding and put a raincheck on the date they made for him to show her the States. Not Dublin is the new Montreal.
She faked the postmark. She's in Montreal. :rommie: Well, this was a complex and weirdly political episode, that didn't quite hang together for me. Kind of impressive in its own way, though.

He may not have a Rudy face. That was a singular phenomenon.
A precious moment in time....

They could really use a Julie.
So could the Mod Squad. :rommie: I was actually thinking during the episode that it would have been cool for Kira to join their rag-tag bunch.

They're just circling around within shooting range of L.A. Central City.
They're supposed to be searching for more geocaches of scientific information!

Nice. :rommie:

That's consistent with how Zaius was portrayed in the films. He knew a lot that he wasn't sharing with ape society, and was motivated to keep them from learning the truth.
Yeah, but technology or just history? Although I guess it would explain the discrepencies in technology if he was doling it out arbitrarily, but his choices of what to dole out make no sense.

I didn't think you'd Cap that...I forgot about the werewolf flick.
Not only one of the greatest Werewolf flicks of all time, but one of the greatest Horror flicks in general of all time.

But Archie was right.
Yeah, but he has nothing to say about it.

Things sure have gotten complicated since I had a couple of Whovian friends when there only five of them.
Way overcomplicated, and not in a good way. I haven't even been able to watch since the "Timeless Child" thing. Which you probably don't even want to know about. :rommie:
 
Once again, the hand of coincidence makes itself known.
It's starting to seem like an obligatory, overdone plot element. Steve doesn't always need to have a personal connection.

This is very weird. There's nothing in real life, that I know about, that corresponds to this, it has nothing to do with the story, and why would the OSI be involved?
They want to build an army of bionic Irishmen...?

Not... Riff Raff?!? :eek:
Nope, completely different guy.

So he faked a threat to the dam to get soldiers to guard his kidnap victim?
Not a specific threat, but yeah.

So the radicals are trying to discredit their own cause?
The radicals are trying to undermine/weaken the less radical, more legit faction.

Did the radicals give any reason for the kidnapping or ask for a ransom or anything?
Ostensibly to release the prisoners, but as Julia deduced, they were planning to kill Mrs. C one way or the other.

For that matter, did they ever explicitly state what the IBA is fighting for?
Not explicitly, I don't think.

So she's an undercover flower lady for the IBA? Was it just coincidence that she was there?
Just a coincidence, and I think she was just a sympathizer who knew people on the inside.

"...grumble grumble okay pal grumble grumble...."
:D

Gasp. I do question the feasibility of her career as a stewardess while handling those responsibilities, though.
They tried to have the general handwave it as being a brilliant cover.

Yeah, but technology or just history? Although I guess it would explain the discrepencies in technology if he was doling it out arbitrarily, but his choices of what to dole out make no sense.
That assumes that he's doling anything out. I think he's just hoarding a lot of forbidden knowledge.

Way overcomplicated, and not in a good way. I haven't even been able to watch since the "Timeless Child" thing. Which you probably don't even want to know about. :rommie:
When I attempted to try out the classic show, it had a way of lulling me to sleep at any time of the day.
 
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