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The bridge of the USS Galaxy

I'm not saying that Picard stepped foot on the E-D and said he hated the carpet and wanted it all ripped up or the corridors replaced, or anything like that. (However, based on crew quarters we've seen from TOS onward, it's clear each person has relative free reign over decoration. Look at Spock's quarters. :eek:) But when it comes to the control center of a ship that's going to be on an extended mission, I think it makes sense to have some Captain's discretion.

I don't really buy this explanation. It seems like a leap to think the major driving reason behind why bridges within a class have different features is because the captain wanted it that way.

Given the fictional nature of Starfleet it's hard to know how things like ship assignment works, and I'll admit to a certain level of ignorance on how the real Navy does it too, but I'm willing to bet dollars to doughnuts that a captain is assigned to a ship well after any decisions about bridge layout and construction are made. If keel-owning captains got a say in the initial ship's design, then how far would Starfleet go in terms of materials and manpower to reconfigure a bridge just because a new captain wanted something a different way?

What we do know about 24th century bridges, at least the Galaxy class ones, is that the stations are mostly task-neutral. So if a captain wants her tactical officer up front on the left and her science officer where Picard had the Conn she could do it that way. But that's not the same as saying captains can make decisions about where hardware is installed.

I'm sure that captains are constantly required to send feedback to fleet engineers about the effectiveness of their ships' bridge design and such feedback will be evaluated and incorporated on future refits to ships of the class as they are scheduled or incorporated into new construction as it's ordered. That'd be my guess as to the in-universe reason we'd see ships of the same class with different bridges; one might have a tech package the other doesn't, have completed a refit the other hasn't, or has had a different system installed from the get-go for comparative performance analysis. This is, I think, pretty likely when you look at the Yamato vs. the Enterprise D.
 
And yes, there are exceptions. On TOS, the Enterprise bridge was reused with minor changes for the Lexington and Defiant. The two Defiant-class ships we saw had the same bridge, as did the two Intrepid-class bridges we saw.

Let's not forget the Exeter from 'The Omega Glory (TOS)' and the Sao Paolo (along with Defiant and Valiant) from DS9 season 7. :p
 
Not to hijack this thread too much, but how big are 'pool table' displays? approx 6' X 2 1/2'?
 
Not sure how much this applies, but I used to work for a major cruise line. Ships of the same class had nearly identical bridges except where advances in technology were incorporated in later ships. Even then, the layouts were identical. Heck, even captains cabins were identical, about the only thing they had a say in was the color of the bedding and what ever they could bring in their luggage for that contract. Changes cost money. un-needed changes = wasted money.
 
I'm not saying that Picard stepped foot on the E-D and said he hated the carpet and wanted it all ripped up or the corridors replaced, or anything like that. (However, based on crew quarters we've seen from TOS onward, it's clear each person has relative free reign over decoration. Look at Spock's quarters. :eek:) But when it comes to the control center of a ship that's going to be on an extended mission, I think it makes sense to have some Captain's discretion.

I don't really buy this explanation. It seems like a leap to think the major driving reason behind why bridges within a class have different features is because the captain wanted it that way.

Given the fictional nature of Starfleet it's hard to know how things like ship assignment works, and I'll admit to a certain level of ignorance on how the real Navy does it too, but I'm willing to bet dollars to doughnuts that a captain is assigned to a ship well after any decisions about bridge layout and construction are made. If keel-owning captains got a say in the initial ship's design, then how far would Starfleet go in terms of materials and manpower to reconfigure a bridge just because a new captain wanted something a different way?

What we do know about 24th century bridges, at least the Galaxy class ones, is that the stations are mostly task-neutral. So if a captain wants her tactical officer up front on the left and her science officer where Picard had the Conn she could do it that way. But that's not the same as saying captains can make decisions about where hardware is installed.

I'm sure that captains are constantly required to send feedback to fleet engineers about the effectiveness of their ships' bridge design and such feedback will be evaluated and incorporated on future refits to ships of the class as they are scheduled or incorporated into new construction as it's ordered. That'd be my guess as to the in-universe reason we'd see ships of the same class with different bridges; one might have a tech package the other doesn't, have completed a refit the other hasn't, or has had a different system installed from the get-go for comparative performance analysis. This is, I think, pretty likely when you look at the Yamato vs. the Enterprise D.

Why the heck is MY name in the first segment of quoted text? I did not say that!!! Please edit your post! I will NOT be misquoted!
 
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I'm not saying it wouldn't be NICE for a Captain to be able to do that... I'm saying it makes no sense, and it is silly...

Starfleet ships are not pleasure craft... they are not "built to order", for an individual customer's preferences. They are "military" ships... diplomatic and military tools of the Federation, built at STARFLEET shipyards, not shipyards which build yachts and cruise vessels. A Galaxy-Class has one bridge, an Ambassador-Class has another, and so on. When new technology or upgrades come along, Starfleet makes changes, or swaps modules... but they don't have Captains "pick out carpet and drape colors", so to speak... that's just absurd in the extreme.

THIS was what I wrote!!!
 
Why the heck is MY name in the first segment of quoted text? I did not say that!!! Please edit your post! I will NOT be misquoted!

Sorry, it should've been quoting Praetor instead. I removed the part where he quoted you but didn't get quite all of the code so it got all wonky. No misquoting was intended. I would edit the post but I think the time is up on that.
 
I'm not saying it wouldn't be NICE for a Captain to be able to do that... I'm saying it makes no sense, and it is silly...

Starfleet ships are not pleasure craft... they are not "built to order", for an individual customer's preferences. They are "military" ships... diplomatic and military tools of the Federation, built at STARFLEET shipyards, not shipyards which build yachts and cruise vessels. A Galaxy-Class has one bridge, an Ambassador-Class has another, and so on. When new technology or upgrades come along, Starfleet makes changes, or swaps modules... but they don't have Captains "pick out carpet and drape colors", so to speak... that's just absurd in the extreme.

THIS was what I wrote!!!
And I agree whole-heartedly.

Each starship follows its own path through the construction and upgrade processes, some may receive upgrades that others didn't, and any lessons learned through the processes will be applied to subsequent builds and upgrades.

So I think it is a faulty a priori to assume that they should be the same.
 
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