"The timeline appears to be restoring itself but the weavers suddenly appear. The Protostar must at all costs return to its initial position on Tars Lamora." - Cygnus-X1.Net
Spoilers Star Trek: Prodigy 2x20 - "Ouroboros, Part 2"
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"The timeline appears to be restoring itself but the weavers suddenly appear. The Protostar must at all costs return to its initial position on Tars Lamora." - Cygnus-X1.Net
I skipped right to the two part season finales of Star Trek: Prodigy’s third and fourth seasons like the fucking weirdo that I am. I won’t spoil anything. Especially since dropping 20 episodes at once makes the issue of avoiding spoilers even worse.
All that I’ll say is that The Hageman Brothers have stuck the landing and created something wonderful and ambitious and heartfelt and special. This show doesn’t get the attention and love that it deserves like Strange New Worlds and Lower Decks rightly do. But like Deep Space Nine and Angel and The Clone Wars, it will find its audience someday. And people are gonna love the fuck out of it then.
Thank you to Paramount for finishing these 20 episodes despite cancelling it and giving the originally planned story its full 40 episodes and closure. And even if this doesn’t result in a Lucifer/Cobra Kai situation where it becomes a post-cancellation hit that spawns multiple additional seasons, thank you to Netflix for giving it a home.
The Hageman Brothers set out to create the Star Trek equivalent of The Clone Wars and Rebels. An animated series that will bring in new generations of children into the fandom while still appealing to adults. A series that plays with the lore and ties the lore of other projects together while still blazing its own unique lore and path forward. A series that introduces great new characters, brings back beloved favorites and gives older characters that were poorly served by the originals a chance to shine themselves and become beloved fan favorites in their own right.
Even as someone that likes The Clone Wars and Rebels, The Hageman Brothers have more than fulfilled their ambitions. Not only is this a far better show than Filoni’s series. This might be one of the best animated shows to come along in a while.
This thing is gonna be fucking huge someday. And it’s gonna be making Trekkies for decades to come.
All that I’ll say is that The Hageman Brothers have stuck the landing and created something wonderful and ambitious and heartfelt and special. This show doesn’t get the attention and love that it deserves like Strange New Worlds and Lower Decks rightly do. But like Deep Space Nine and Angel and The Clone Wars, it will find its audience someday. And people are gonna love the fuck out of it then.
Thank you to Paramount for finishing these 20 episodes despite cancelling it and giving the originally planned story its full 40 episodes and closure. And even if this doesn’t result in a Lucifer/Cobra Kai situation where it becomes a post-cancellation hit that spawns multiple additional seasons, thank you to Netflix for giving it a home.
The Hageman Brothers set out to create the Star Trek equivalent of The Clone Wars and Rebels. An animated series that will bring in new generations of children into the fandom while still appealing to adults. A series that plays with the lore and ties the lore of other projects together while still blazing its own unique lore and path forward. A series that introduces great new characters, brings back beloved favorites and gives older characters that were poorly served by the originals a chance to shine themselves and become beloved fan favorites in their own right.
Even as someone that likes The Clone Wars and Rebels, The Hageman Brothers have more than fulfilled their ambitions. Not only is this a far better show than Filoni’s series. This might be one of the best animated shows to come along in a while.
This thing is gonna be fucking huge someday. And it’s gonna be making Trekkies for decades to come.
I skipped to the end because I already watched it in French and the ending still hits me so hard, particularly that montage of the entire series. It was just a beautiful summary of their journey and the whole found family aspect of the crew.
I think it's the best finale of the franchise, managing to wrap up not only Prodigy, but provide some measure of closure to Voyager as well.
It even solves at least one problem I had with Picard and the fact that Beverly forgot all about Wesley or that Wesley should have been the one to meet Jack at the end, not Q. Although I don't think it retroactively makes Picard better at least.
I'm happy it didn't get buried in the content vault as a tax write off and that everyone gets a chance to experience the show now. It really is my favourite Star Trek show of the modern era and perhaps of all time.
I think it's the best finale of the franchise, managing to wrap up not only Prodigy, but provide some measure of closure to Voyager as well.
It even solves at least one problem I had with Picard and the fact that Beverly forgot all about Wesley or that Wesley should have been the one to meet Jack at the end, not Q. Although I don't think it retroactively makes Picard better at least.
I'm happy it didn't get buried in the content vault as a tax write off and that everyone gets a chance to experience the show now. It really is my favourite Star Trek show of the modern era and perhaps of all time.
The badge that activated the ship in E1 was Dal's and he left it there for them to find. What a brilliant season-spanning time loop
This was just nice and long overdue
They connect to PIC S3...
...and CoM and S1!
Working in why the badge was wrong in the PIC S1 flashbacks is brilliant XD
And this is how hopefully S3 and more will continue!
The chairs are switched here, starboard in FO, port is Captain.
This is the best season since PIC S3.
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Fantastic finale. Tying into Picard and giving Voy more closure. Wrapping everything up but leaving the door open to a season three. But I'll be satisfied if this really is the end. What an epic season
The Hageman Brothers, Mike McMahan, Michael Chabon, Akiva Goldsman and Terry Matalas had repeatedly claimed that they were in semi-constant communication with each other to make sure that they didn’t step on each other’s toes creatively and that all the post-Nemesis era shows lined up continuity-wise, but I always assumed they were completely full of shit and it was just corporate PR talk.
They were not full of shit. Bless them all for actually caring that much to regularly coordinate like that.
Everything with Wesley, Beverly, Jack and all the Traveler/Supervisor stuff was such a lovely surprise. Tying into all the Picard stuff while also finally giving Wesley and Wheaton the chance to truly shine after decades of being shat on. I still like Seasons 1 & 3 of Picard and fucking hate the gas leak season, but for me this does make Picard a little stronger. Wesley got to be a hero. Wesley and Beverly got closure. Wesley got to meet Jack. And of all the batshit nonsense from the gas leak season, at least now the Traveler/Supervisor/Wesley stuff from it feels a little more fleshed out and way less fucking random.
This show was just firing on all cylinders.
I fully intended to watch the season over the course of a week. Just binge 3-4 episodes at a time. The show was so addictive that I ended up watching the whole thing in one go. Genuinely incredible stuff. Easily my favourite season of Trek in a long long time.
Absolutely steeped in Trek lore, but unlike Picard season 3 for example, it actually uses that to tell new and interesting stories. It's packed with old Trek characters and yet none of them overshadow our new cast. If anything they enhance them. The references actually feel organic most of the time and I came away from this wanting so much more. Just a perfect marriage of old and new. Reverential to what came before without feeling pandering. Such a tricky line to walk.
I'm heartbroken thinking this will probably be the last season, but until an official cancellation notice comes through, I'll watch and recommend and live in hope.
Absolutely steeped in Trek lore, but unlike Picard season 3 for example, it actually uses that to tell new and interesting stories. It's packed with old Trek characters and yet none of them overshadow our new cast. If anything they enhance them. The references actually feel organic most of the time and I came away from this wanting so much more. Just a perfect marriage of old and new. Reverential to what came before without feeling pandering. Such a tricky line to walk.
I'm heartbroken thinking this will probably be the last season, but until an official cancellation notice comes through, I'll watch and recommend and live in hope.
Is Chakotay the permanent captain of the Voyager-A?
Looks that way, since Janeway is apparently needed at HQ (or wherever she needs to be).
My guess is though that he will be directly reporting to Admiral Janeway.
I wonder what happens to VOY-A that it gets replaced with B after 15 odd years - I hope its not lost in action... but if its not, then retiring it so the B can take its place makes even less sense - unless the resources are replenished and SF gets back to a more 'operational status' (which could happen anytime between 2385 and 2400) in which case they just decide that building a new VOY would be better (its possible the A was simply refitted into the B for whatever reason - maybe due to inclusion of all the Borg technology into the mix which necessitated a major change?).
Eh, I'm not a fan of this notion of replacing ships so quickly. They're supposed to last 200 odd years with upgrades, etc. - but you can technically leave them in service indefinitely if they survive for that long - heck, using replicators/transporters it would be simple matter to recycle the frame and hull progressively during refits and just make it brand new each time - that way, the same ship undergoes upgrades, keeps up with technology and never gets retired.
I expect 'some' hull design changes to take place after say 100 odd years, but most of the upgrades would likely be internalized (the Sovereign class didn't need to be changed, and it was seen in PIC S3).
At any rate, the show is AMAZING.
One of THE BEST Trek shows in existence.
Gave VOY much needed closure, Beltran was back as Chakotay and given better role this time around.
Here's hoping Prodigy gets more seasons and we see cameos of the remaining VOY crew on the show (Kim definitely needs to be seen, along with Torres, Seven, Paris, Neelix and possibly even Kes).
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I take it the ship they're given at the end was originally suppose to be the Protostar-A but was changed to Prodigy well after dialog recording. As Hologram Janeway calls it Protostar instead of Prodigy.
I could be remembering it wrong, but I think it’s considered a Protostar-class vessel.
There’s only two seasons huh
The Hageman Brothers planned the show out to be four ten episode seasons (ala all the other recent Trek shows) that each ended with a two part season finale that wrapped up its storyline.
Nickelodeon aired the first two seasons a full year apart (October 2021-February 2022 and October 2022-December 2022) but labeled Season 2 as “Season 1, Part II”.
but the Hageman's also call all of this Season as Season 2.
And I'm pretty sure I've seen them refer to Season 1 as just Season 1.
Depends on the interview. In older interviews they referred to Season 1, Part II as Season 2 and their forty episode plan as their four season plan.
Talk about a depressing way to end the season. Connecting it to Picard season one of all things. 
So Wesley knew about the kid before Jean-Luc? Being a Time Lord, he probably knew before hand anyway.
I don't know know why they keep giving them different uniforms to wear. I'd rather they just wore the actual uniforms of Starfleet.
So Wesley knew about the kid before Jean-Luc? Being a Time Lord, he probably knew before hand anyway.
I don't know know why they keep giving them different uniforms to wear. I'd rather they just wore the actual uniforms of Starfleet.
Loved that. The montage was blimmin’ superb.
Loved the tie-in to Picard, although for anyone watching who’s never watched that show, I do wonder if it would’ve seemed completely random? That said, if this is the end for the show, who cares?
Thought they wrapped everything up with a lovely bow. New adventures would be fun but, if not, this was an incredibly tight story that concluded brilliantly.
I’d love a third season but, with how this one ended, a part of me would rather see any continuation be in the form of streaming movies.
Can’t even assemble my thoughts properly. What a season!
Loved the tie-in to Picard, although for anyone watching who’s never watched that show, I do wonder if it would’ve seemed completely random? That said, if this is the end for the show, who cares?
Thought they wrapped everything up with a lovely bow. New adventures would be fun but, if not, this was an incredibly tight story that concluded brilliantly.
I’d love a third season but, with how this one ended, a part of me would rather see any continuation be in the form of streaming movies.
Can’t even assemble my thoughts properly. What a season!
This was honestly an all around amazing season.
Sadly however I can see why they shut it down, Season 3 would be what their new Starfleet Academy show wants to be. And holding the new show up against the price per episode and general quality of Prodigy would just be a loosing battle for whatever network executives were trying to push it.
Sadly however I can see why they shut it down, Season 3 would be what their new Starfleet Academy show wants to be. And holding the new show up against the price per episode and general quality of Prodigy would just be a loosing battle for whatever network executives were trying to push it.
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