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Spoilers Star Trek: Prodigy 1x01/02 - "Lost and Found"

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I have a take I haven't seen discussed here though. I do wonder if starting in a Star-Wars esque base was a deliberate story move, because Star Wars (IMO) is the more ur-example of science fiction fantasy these days. Trek has always prided itself on being more technically astute, but Star Wars has always felt you needed less going into it to understand it.

But... from those Star Wars origins, we'll be shown that a Star Trek crew can emerge when you put them together on the same ship and teach them Federation values. They're scrappy now, but we'll be re-forging the closeness of the Federation in miniature with this crew.
I was just speculating something similar based on how things develop in the next episode.

Rather than speculate and demerit the show for putting Alpha Quadrant races in apparently a Delta Quadrant location, I'm gonna wait to see if the show gives us an explanation. And if it doesn't, it wouldn't matter if I had fun watching it along the way.
What kinda crazy talk is this!?! :p

Really? I feel like this is the exact point of the show and the point from the showrunner's efforts is to start out with something more accessible, like Star Wars, and allow the kid characters to be introductions to this world. So, I swear I've read that here. But, regardless, your observation is astute.
If the observation has been made, it's been obscured by all the knee-jerk reactions to comparing the show to Star Wars in the first place.
 
Really? I feel like this is the exact point of the show and the point from the showrunner's efforts is to start out with something more accessible, like Star Wars, and allow the kid characters to be introductions to this world. So, I swear I've read that here. But, regardless, your observation is astute.

Well, I didn't do a whole review of the thread. I just didn't see it come up on the pages I sampled :shrug:
 
That...was never my take on it.

Fro the Captain's log:

"While the thoughts of the Medusans are the most sublime in the galaxy, their physical appearance is exactly the opposite. They have evolved into a race of beings who are formless, so utterly hideous that the sight of a Medusan brings total madness to any Human who sees one."
 
This a good episode and did something even Lower Decks can’t, it showed us what people truly out of their depth would do in a starship emergency. The closest we have seen to this is in TNG when Picard had to talk the kid through saving himself from dying in a shuttle, and when Jake and Nog had to pilot the runabout home, but this really cranks the mess up nicely.

Oh, you didn’t mean “divert all power” you meant “divert all available power.” Let’s go to warp, *everyone from Lower Decks shouting at once.*

This got me thinking about how sometimes, not always (like going to warp from Earth’s surface with a cargo deck of whales), you can’t go to warp in a system, and now I think it relates to warping around suns. Like if you warp through a system in a straight line it is fine, but around a star is no bueno, especially if very close, unless you are a very skilled pilot.

The only thing I didn’t like is Janeway says the replicator is a matter synthesizer, not a matter-energy device. I don’t know who is pushing the shit to apples angle for replicators so hard.

On the flippy flop I love that we finally see a shuttle replicator, Voyager definitely has one as far as I’m concerned. I don’t think it should look like a bunch of 3D printing dumb arms, but A+ for finally giving us one good extrapolation of TNG tech in new Trek.

Also, the best part, the kid thinking the Federation and Janeway are too good to be true despite thinking she is kind of trustworthy, that’s gold. Really makes the whole debacle work for me in a way it could not have otherwise. Also none of them are used to freedom so it makes sense they kind of just fall in line despite not wanting too. That’s the best part of the show, the little character choices based on their shitty lives but not being shitty people.
 
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This a good episode and did something even Lower Decks can’t, it showed use what people truly out of their depth would do in a starship emergency.

"Where's the pew pew button?"
"I dunno!"
"Keep pressing buttons until we hit the pew pew button!"

I LOVED that! :luvlove::adore:

Probably more than any other series, Prodigy shows what happens when untrained, ordinary people are suddenly placed in command of a starship.

The placement of the credits at the end of ep02 reminds me of the ending of "Casino Royale" (the crew didn't fully come together until the end of ep02).
 
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Actually got to see the premiere thanks to the PTB posting it to the official Paramount+ YouTube channel. (I suspect this will be for a limited time. The season 2 premiere of "Lower Decks" was also posted, but now seems gone.)

I won't bother reiterating the various topics already thoroughly discussed. I'll just note I liked that short moment when Gwyn speaks to the Caitian 'kitten" in her own language. A bit like that could so easily backfire, stumbling into "camp", but Ella Purnell had the right about of restraint when "purring" and "chuffing", making it sound believable as a language.
 
Just watched the premier on the Paramount+ YouTube channel. I was pretty entertained and I liked it. Way more than I expected to be. Guess it's time to renew Paramount+ for a few months. Better than Discovery. :lol:
 
Prodigy has been added to a fan-made timeline of the Trek universe.

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Where did you find this? It's great!
 
Fro the Captain's log:

"While the thoughts of the Medusans are the most sublime in the galaxy, their physical appearance is exactly the opposite. They have evolved into a race of beings who are formless, so utterly hideous that the sight of a Medusan brings total madness to any Human who sees one."

Well, if it's in the log of some one who's never seen one....
 
Liberated Borg offspring?
Its a possibility... but liberated Borg tend to remember their origins, so...not sure how that could work.

Also, where would those liberated Borg originate from? Probably not from the Collective at large as those events would likely be too rare.

The only higher possible concentration of multiple AQ species would be in the Nekrit expanse (the Cooperative) who were assimilated at Wolf 359 and brought to the DQ via a Sphere (most likely) which detached from that cube which had Locutus aboard.
Wolf 359 massacre happened in 2369... that's 14 years between then and 2383 - which DOES match more or less (except in the case of Gwyn who is 17 years old).

The Cooperative may have chosen to remove certain knowledge from their offspring if a disruption of some kind occurred after Voyager left.

There's also the Borg resistance to consider - but that happened in 2377 (which is only 6 years apart from 2383 when the Protostar is discovered - so the Borg resistance having offspring (unless they experienced a temporal displacement too) doesn't track.

The Medusans (if any were present) at Wolf 359 may have been contained for study by the Borg and transported to the DQ with other AQ species, but because its an energy based lifeform, it was subsequently deemed that it can't be assimilated and therefore the decision was reached it should be destroyed (but not before creating and releasing Zero as its own offspring).

This could work in the case of 'some' AQ offspring... however, that doesn't really change the proposed possibility of the Protostar being flung back in time by several decades about 1 or 2 years after Voyager returned home. This explanation fits a bit better with 'what did you think your father was mining for all these years' line... and it can also explain away AQ offspring belonging to the Protostar original crew.

Wolf 359 was in 2366-2367. Just about matching Gwyn's age (if she's rounding up), although I imagine that the Vau N'Akat are semi-natives and not from the Alpha.

It could be that the Diviner is liberating Borg Drones to use as mining slaves. This might explain Jankom's missing hand. Rok only knew life on the mine, suggesting she's spent all her living memory there (if she's, say, eight, that could be three or four years). But Jankom hasn't, and probably not Dal or Zero neither, given their knowledge of technology and translators and so on.
 
Probably late to the party... Watched first 5 episodes.
Amongst Kurtzman Trek: Much better than Discovery, not as good as Lower Decks and obviously Picard.
Overall, pretty decent.
 
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