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Star Trek: Nemesis - As Never Seen Before (Update)

That’s a great music edit cutting short the original ending cue and transitioning to the deleted ending.

Did you consider putting the original ending where it was in the script, i.e. straight after the Picard/Riker goodbye scene in the ready room, with the Picard/B4 scene placed before them both?

Just curious more than anything else. This looks good. :)
 
That’s a great music edit cutting short the original ending cue and transitioning to the deleted ending.

Did you consider putting the original ending where it was in the script, i.e. straight after the Picard/Riker goodbye scene in the ready room, with the Picard/B4 scene placed before them both?

Just curious more than anything else. This looks good. :)
Thanks¡ The merit there goes to Chris AKA Hardwire who did the amazing score for the deleted scenes. He had to make a new theme but also needed a good transition for the previous scene and also to the ending credits at the end of the scene. Once he had it, I did the mix with the music from the actual movie and everything worked smoothly after a few tries. I did cut the Alternate Ending before the ending credits so it was a bit difficult to mix the deleted scene music with the 5.1 track from the BluRay ending credits. So that two tacks and the new theme ended up becoming a single theme for the ending scenes.

Regarding the order of the scenes, I did some tests and didn´t like how the transition from the Picard/B-4 scene to Riker´s farewell transition looked and sounded. The original version where Picard starts talking to B-4 before the actual scene is seen on screen, works pretty good and I wanted to keep that special moment. I´ve also added something to make the impression that more time has happened since the battle and Data´s sacrifice.
 
Here´s the trailer:

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And here´s also the musical theme (exactly as it sounds in the edit) for the Château Picard scene.

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Is it just me or are the stars going in the wrong direction in the "...Romulans live only for conquest..." shot?
 
Is it just me or are the stars going in the wrong direction in the "...Romulans live only for conquest..." shot?
I just did copy the way they move in Worf´s close-up during the "briefing about Shinzon" scene .

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I just did copy the way they move in Worf´s close-up during the "briefing about Shinzon" scene .

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Your new Worf shot is not filmed from the same angle as his close-up during the briefing. The camera is closer to the position used for the wide shot of the table with Picard at the head. By having the stars moving in that direction from that angle, you effectively now have the ship traveling backwards at warp.

Unrelated: I still can't believe they left that shot of the greenscreen reflected in the computer screen in the finished film. :D
 
Your new Worf shot is not filmed from the same angle as his close-up during the briefing. The camera is closer to the position used for the wide shot of the table with Picard at the head. By having the stars moving in that direction from that angle, you effectively now have the ship traveling backwards at warp.

Unrelated: I still can't believe they left that shot of the greenscreen reflected in the computer screen in the finished film. :D
I don´t know why the stars movement is different in Worf closeup than in Riker´s closeup in the theatrical scene. But the wide shot is parallel to the window while the "Federation Protocols" is shot from near the briefing room´s door towards the window. Honestly I don´t think the stars are moving in the wrong direction in the "Federation Protocols". I think they are moving different in almost every shot in that scene.
 
I think they are moving different in almost every shot in that scene.
Because it depends on where the camera is and what it is pointed at.

Edit: This is an awful graphic, but hopefully it shows what I'm talking about.

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Red dot is the camera, I'm simplifying by pretending it doesn't alter location, although that's not the case. When it turns to our left, the starts will be traveling left to right (off into the distance, of course). When the camera faces our right, the stars will be streaking right to left.
 
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Because it depends on where the camera is and what it is pointed at.

Edit: This is an awful graphic, but hopefully it shows what I'm talking about.

PxnwDTK.jpeg


Red dot is the camera, I'm simplifying by pretending it doesn't alter location, although that's not the case. When it turns to our left, the starts will be traveling left to right (off into the distance, of course). When the camera faces our right, the stars will be streaking right to left.
I understand, you´re right but fixing that would requiere to redoing the Green Screen work and that´s beyond my resources at the moment. It´s something barely noticeable, as only you has mentioned it for now so I wouldn´t bother. Anyway thanks you for warning about it as one never knows if I might be able to fix it at some point.
 
Update: Extended Cut in progress.
Hi. Work began in the Extended Cut of "Star Trek Nemesis: The Last Rendezvous". I'm doing some test with the remaining deleted scenes but I'm also figuring out how to get rid of the infamous "mental rape". As you know, my edit doesn't remove it but rather replaces it with the Alternate version. Main issue is the fact the mental rape is connected with both Picard's kidnapping and Deanna's finding the Scimitar scenes. Any ideas are welcomed!! Cheers :)
 
I'm not sure what would need to be done other than to put the "turbolift event" in a different place to the "bedroom event". If you remove the bedroom one completely and the insert the turbolift one right after the scene of Jean-Luc and Beverly in his ready room (where he shows her a photo of himself at the academy) then everything should line up okay?
 
I'm not sure what would need to be done other than to put the "turbolift event" in a different place to the "bedroom event". If you remove the bedroom one completely and the insert the turbolift one right after the scene of Jean-Luc and Beverly in his ready room (where he shows her a photo of himself at the academy) then everything should line up okay?
That's exactly what I did for the Standard Version. I meant I'd like to avoid using any of those two versions, so there wouldn´t be a mind rape.
 
That's exactly what I did for the Standard Version. I meant I'd like to avoid using any of those two versions, so there wouldn´t be a mind rape.
Ah, I see.

Can I ask why?

If it's an aversion to seeing it actually happen, could you simply have it happen offscreen? Everything we need to know for the plot happens in the scene when Deanna explains the attack to Beverly anyway.

If you don't like the entire concept and want it gone, that sounds like a very difficult extraction. :D
 
Can I ask why?

If it's an aversion to seeing it actually happen, could you simply have it happen offscreen? Everything we need to know for the plot happens in the scene when Deanna explains the attack to Beverly anyway.

If you don't like the entire concept and want it gone, that sounds like a very difficult extraction. :D
As you know, my edit doesn't remove it but rather replaces it with the Alternate version. Main issue is the fact the mental rape is connected with both Picard's kidnapping and Deanna's finding the Scimitar scenes.
 
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