Spoilers Star Trek Beyond & Treklit
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Speaking for myself, I think that if I'd been the one to novelize this movie -- and in the unlikely event that the studio had allowed me to expand on it significantly rather than sticking closely to the final cut -- I would've found it too difficult and painful to write Spock Prime's death scene. Because it's really about acknowledging Leonard Nimoy's passing, and that's still very sad to think about.
Is there some reason why we should assume that Commodore Paris doesn't already have a family?
I find it annoying how prevalent taking on a husband's surname is in the modern U.S., even among women.
One would think that with modern feminist movements people would want to keep their own surnames in marriage.
One would think that with modern feminist movements people would want to keep their own surnames in marriage.
I really did want to change my surname when I got married last year, but as my wife had been needing to spell out her surname (even in her native Ireland) since she could talk, we opted for the traditional approach.
As for Beyond versus Lit, well of course Beyond supersedes those god awful Federation building novels, that is the way of things.
RE: The photo.
X-Men: Days of Future Past combined the young and old X-Men casts, some of whom look and sound nothing alike. You just suspend your disbelief. I think it was smart to use a photo from STV, where everyone looks noticeably older than the Beyond cast.
X-Men: Days of Future Past combined the young and old X-Men casts, some of whom look and sound nothing alike. You just suspend your disbelief. I think it was smart to use a photo from STV, where everyone looks noticeably older than the Beyond cast.
Zoe Saldana's husband took her last name.
Is there some reason why we should assume that Commodore Paris doesn't already have a family?
True. Carol Marcus didn't have a husband and it didn't seem to matter.
Sure, normally you'd just assume that it's the same person at different ages, like the various actors who played younger versions of Picard in "Rascals," "Tapestry," and Nemesis. It's just that the IDW comics have consistently gone with the assumption that the characters actually do look different in the different universes, so this reminded me of that, and I'm sure there will be comics fans who take it as confirmation. And now that Pegg's put forward the idea that the timeline could've been different all along, it gives a bit more credence to that idea. I'm not saying I believe that, I'm just saying the shot in the movie opens the door for that debate.
(Could it be, perhaps, that Spock Prime recognized Kirk and Scotty by something other than appearance? Maybe he recognized their brain patterns telepathically. And Vulcans do canonically have an acute sense of smell...)
What Spock thought when he first saw Kelvin-Kirk: "Smells like orion female, caitian female, human female and exotic alien-of-the-week female. Definitely Jim."
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They said "Xindi"?
Hah. I heard that as "Kzinti" and was wondering how much Larry Niven got paid for that reference.
I guess "Xindi" is more likely, although "Kzinti" could have been a reference to TAS, which is how I interpreted the line when I was watching the movie . ..
Hah. I heard that as "Kzinti" and was wondering how much Larry Niven got paid for that reference.
I guess "Xindi" is more likely, although "Kzinti" could have been a reference to TAS, which is how I interpreted the line when I was watching the movie . ..
Since the character's backstory was that he was an ex-MACO, there was never any doubt in my mind that he said "Xindi."
Wouldn't that be too much legal baggage for anyone to want to deal with?
Undoubtedly. Which I why I raised an eyebrow when I thought I heard "Kzinti."
Never even occurred to me that they meant "Xindi" until I read this thread, although, in retrospect, that's obviously what they meant..
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My rationalization is that there's something about Vulcans and Romulans* that for some reason, they see people from between Prime and Kelvin timelines as looking the same even though everyone else sees them as different. I initially thought it up as a joke, having a Prime Universe crew meet its Kelvin Timeline counterpart, as everyone comments on how different their counterparts look, the Vulcans are just confused because to them, they all look the same. Although this was a joke at first, I've since decided to accept it as my own personal canon.
*I include Romulans since Nero also recognizes Kirk on sight despite Countdown showing him looking up an image of Shatner. Fortunately Vulcans and Romulans are related so it's a perfectly logical connection.
Is this meant to be a statement or a question?
Well, on the other hand they did give Joe Taslim's character Anderson Le/Manas a name involving a Vietnamese surname.
The new movie makes me wish that they would re-visit the idea of original novels in the alternate reality. There's a nice gap between the second and third movie, and enough is established character-wise and story-wise.
Kirk's opening narration makes me think of the episodes "Lower Decks" and "Data's Day" fun day-in-the-life stories that haven't been overdone, but that we could use a little more of. In the past I've seen to many fan critiques that this emphasis goes the way of soap operas, but shows like Farscape and the newer Battlestar Galactica makes me dismissive of that kind of alarmism.
I would be interested to see some of the details about the planets history and inhabitants re-visited. What were they all about, and how does that technology work.
I would love to learn more about some of the characters that we've seen in the first and second movie, that are gone in the third movie.
Kirk's opening narration makes me think of the episodes "Lower Decks" and "Data's Day" fun day-in-the-life stories that haven't been overdone, but that we could use a little more of. In the past I've seen to many fan critiques that this emphasis goes the way of soap operas, but shows like Farscape and the newer Battlestar Galactica makes me dismissive of that kind of alarmism.
I would be interested to see some of the details about the planets history and inhabitants re-visited. What were they all about, and how does that technology work.
I would love to learn more about some of the characters that we've seen in the first and second movie, that are gone in the third movie.
Are we sure that Vulcan's and Romulans are related? I was just watching The Enemy recently and Dr. Crusher mentioned that Vulcan's and Romulans have, in terms of their blood, nothing in common, which is why Worf was the only one on the ship that she was able to do a transplant or blood infusion from.
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