Sleeping Arrangements

[Deks]

Yikes. Glad I didn't join the service.

In the real world, I don't know if too many amenities would be given to people who have issues with confined spaces... in fact, people with claustrophobia might be passed over for consideration in the service, or would be asked to seek help before applying - or they might be promised to be given professional assistance in this matter if they do apply.

A lot of what is done in military settings, or settings where there is a very strong hyerarchy (aka chain of command), there's also a lot of emphasis on 'toughening up' and not necessarily a lot of support for mental health (though if I'm not mistaken, it wasn't until last year that mental health toolkits were rolled out throughout the royal navy for example - but as we know, its one thing to have support for things on paper, and something else to see it working in practice (which often falls short of proper implementation - to say the least).

If we're talking about Trek, its possible people with claustrophobia would be assigned a bit more space if possible, or certain accommodations will be made to try and meet their needs... at least in Starfleet.
Barclay for example came into service with phobias, and its not so unusual to see people with claustrophobia in Starfleet.

My guess is that in Trek, people with certain 'problems' (or how they classify problems) are in fact allowed to join and every effort would be made to accommodate for their needs and minimize exposure to environments that might aggravate their conditions (if they have any).
After all, people can still be in different positions in SF, and have 'disabilities', and contribute massively on the whole in service to Starfleet.

Plus, I'd be surprised if SF didn't provide mental health services to people to help deal with any conditions they might have and minimize their impact on the person - and of course, there are treatment methods that work with curing claustrophobia.

Hoshi Sato was claustrophobic and she was on the NX-01 which arguably had less space allocated to a crew member than what is usually available on larger ships in the 23rd and 24th century.

 

[Paul Weaver]

If Ensigns had to share quarters on a Galaxy class ship

That was ridiculous. The volume of the Enterprise D is something like 10 times the volume of a Nimitz class aircraft carrier, but has 1/5th the crew. There is no reason to make people share quarters on the D.

Everyone having their own quarters on Voyager was realistic (Voyager had 150 people over 15 decks. Even if you put all the quarters on just say Deck 7 (at least 8 decks have quarters on) that's still enough room for a 30 square meters quarters, another 30 square meters for utilities and corridors, and leaves 90% of the volume of the ship free for other purposes.

 

[The Wormhole]

How my 6'4" uncle served in the submarine service I will never know.

I remember being aboard a WWII corvette that's now a museum ship. Whoever served on that must have been damn short. I'm 5'11" and had to crouch down while walking around the interior.

 

[Oddish]

That was ridiculous. The volume of the Enterprise D is something like 10 times the volume of a Nimitz class aircraft carrier, but has 1/5th the crew. There is no reason to make people share quarters on the D.

True. Especially when you consider that there were married couples and families, who would be assigned shared quarters by choice. So figure that, laws of averages, for a total of 1000 people, they would need 800 sets of quarters to accommodate all. According to "Yesterday's Enterprise", the Enterprise D was capable of transporting 6000 troops. I doubt they would stuff more than four people in each room, six tops, so figure they had 1000, more likely 1500. That's more than enough, even allowing for a generous number of guest quarters.

 

[Charles Phipps]

That was ridiculous. The volume of the Enterprise D is something like 10 times the volume of a Nimitz class aircraft carrier, but has 1/5th the crew. There is no reason to make people share quarters on the D.

I dunno, man, a Nimitz class aircraft carrier doesn't need its own operations center for dolphins.

 

[Oddish]

But it needs space for 85 combat aircraft and enough munitions to turn Romania* into a parking lot.


*Nothing personal against Romania, I just selected a country at random.

 

[hbquikcomjamesl]

As I recall, there was something in the TNG writers' guide that said, in so many words, that Galaxy-class ships are launched with a fair amount of space left unfinished. Which makes sense, given that (at least in my headcanon) the ship's theatre from TOS:"The Conscience of the King" is probably also the ship's bowling alley/ballroom from TOS:"The Naked Time." And then, of course, was it DSC or the Abramsverse movies where we saw turbolifts moving not in the narrow shafts we saw, if I remember right, in one of the later TOS movies, but in some nonsensically vast internal space.

But the LD sleeping arrangements were a Rule of Funny thing, to emphasize how lowly our lowly heroes are.

 

[valkyrie013]

The racks for the Cali class are probably in there own section of the ship, a section for Alpha, beta, etc shift so you don't wake up anybody on another shift.
Given the mission of the ship, it's probably mostly cargo areas, so not much room for rooms. Plus it's an inner federation ship so it's going from base to base or base to a long term planet. So your not looking at a 5 year mission so things can be a bit more cramped.
Id say for crewmen, it's kinda the same, based on rank or billet if you get a pod or a room.

Think of NX class. Hoshi and mayweather had there own rooms, crewman bunked up 2 to a room so it's type and duration of mission that dictates the crew sleeping arangements

 

[Oddish]

I think it's one of those things they don't want us to pay attention to.

 

[fireproof78]

But the LD sleeping arrangements were a Rule of Funny thing, to emphasize how lowly our lowly heroes are.

This. And not to be taken seriously.

 

[Oddish]

A little like Riker's "Give we warp in the factor of 5, 6, 7, 8."

 

[Richard Baker]

True. Especially when you consider that there were married couples and families, who would be assigned shared quarters by choice. So figure that, laws of averages, for a total of 1000 people, they would need 800 sets of quarters to accommodate all. According to "Yesterday's Enterprise", the Enterprise D was capable of transporting 6000 troops. I doubt they would stuff more than four people in each room, six tops, so figure they had 1000, more likely 1500. That's more than enough, even allowing for a generous number of guest quarters.

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[Paul Weaver]

A little like Riker's "Give we warp in the factor of 5, 6, 7, 8."

Warp 5,678 now cannon. How Lower Decks DESTROYS continuity by IGNORING Genes Vision™ of a maximum warp 10 speed.

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[dswynne1]

Point of fact, based on one of the episodes from Season 3 (the one featuring the bog-like hydroponics bay), personnel can share quarters, if given the opportunity.

 

[Locutus of Bored]

How my 6'4" uncle served in the submarine service I will never know.

Former pro basketball player David Robinson actually grew so much during his time at the US Naval Academy (from 6'7" to 7'0' feet) that he literally outgrew serving on ships and submarines and had to take a shore duty at the sub base in Kings Bay, Georgia.

After I took my ASVAB test in high school the Navy recruiters kept telling me I should go into nuclear engineering on submarines, but it would have been very cramped as I was already 6'4" by then and eventually ended up being 6'6", which is the upper limit for ship or submarine service, IIRC. Didn't matter anyway, as I unfortunately had my first major epileptic seizure before I graduated high school (which I think I got as a result of playing football), so my plans of joining the military after school were out.

 

[BK613]

For info purposes, the typical size of the mattress for US Navy enlisted bunks is 76" x 26" x 3" (193 cm x 66 cm x 8 cm).

And while we didn't live in a corridor, there was still a lot of pass-by and pass-through traffic.
For example, when all the bathroom and shower facilities are on the port side, the guys on the starboard side have to walk through the whole of the berthing compartment to get to them.
Or when the path to Engineering's berthing on deck three passes down through Deck's berthing on deck two.
And don't even get me started on the view from the bottom bunk.

 

[Alpharius]

After watching Prodigy, I came to an interesting revelation. The hallway bunks on the Cerritos actually have a lot of utility to them that normal bunkbeds do not. They have that nighttime screen thing that appears to be successful at not only giving a simulation of a darkened room. I also suspect that they help with shutting off the sleeping ensigns from the noise of the other shifts passing through the hallways.

 

[ToddCam]

I was thinking about this before. Where do these ensigns have their sexual encounters? Like, were Mariner and Jennifer just having sex in the bunk above Boimler's?

 

[Paul Weaver]

Holodeck

 

[Alpharius]

I was thinking about this before. Where do these ensigns have their sexual encounters? Like, were Mariner and Jennifer just having sex in the bunk above Boimler's?

My personal assumption was holodecks, showers, supply closets, shuttles and away missions. Not to mention shore leaves. But, like, bunk sex was totally happening.