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Sleeping Arrangements

One would imagine that in an evolved 24th century humanity, where they have evolved past hunger, want and the need for material possession that there is a certain level of self-control with what is presented, i.e. each aspect of Starfleet and Federation culture is to be content at each level.

You are correct, but I would say that the UFP would provide a high quality living standard to EVERYONE (which is more than doable).
In that sense, you wouldn't have 'levels' at which people live because everyone would have equal levels of access - but because material needs no longer exist, people are no longer obsessed about living in mansions/villas at the beach (not everyone wants to live like that even in Capitalism [which heavily distots people's perceptions of wants and needs]) and would be more comfortable at something like say 1000 square meters per person (and wouldn't even take a lot of space if its decently spaced out in buildings that go up 4 stories for a population of 8 billion per planet - and with fully integrated facilities and methods of production INTO those residential buildings, you further drop land requirements - all of this is actually doable today with our own technology WITHOUT 3d printers no less - just fully automated vertical farms combined with volksgarden tech which existed for about 20 odd years now).

On ships, its different as there is a hierarchy and space can be a bit tight... but I still fail to see how shoving ensigns into walls of the corridors would be considered 'decent' or 'high quality standard of living'.

Like I said, you can give them shuttle bay sized room, and cram a large amount of bunk pods into that section and make it communal with facilities for lower decks (aka, cadets and ensigns) and make it NICE.. .as opposed to having them literally in corridors.

Space is not that tight even of Cali class ships... and the saucers are HUGE when you think about it... so higher living standards would definitely be doable even for ensigns and cadets on those ships if SF just made things in a more sensible capacity.
 
On ships, its different as there is a hierarchy and space can be a bit tight... but I still fail to see how shoving ensigns into walls of the corridors would be considered 'decent' or 'high quality standard of living'.

Like I said, you can give them shuttle bay sized room, and cram a large amount of bunk pods into that section and make it communal with facilities for lower decks (aka, cadets and ensigns) and make it NICE.. .as opposed to having them literally in corridors.

Space is not that tight even of Cali class ships... and the saucers are HUGE when you think about it... so higher living standards would definitely be doable even for ensigns and cadets on those ships if SF just made things in a more sensible capacity.
"Shoving Ensigns into walls" is funny and this is a comedy series, where the first priority is to be funny. Why is this such a difficult concept for many to comprehend?
 
The thing is that LD was stated that it intentionally exaggerates stuff from Trek... so not all of it should be taken at face value either.
Which includes "shoving ensigns in to walls." It's part of the humor, the idea that Lower Decks are distinct from the senior staff.

Though, personally, I don't see that as a big issue. They still have personal space, as well as niceties in common space, and the holodeck. So, nice enough for the purposes of a ship.
 
Besides, in all honesty, if I had a say in the matter I'd probably prefer "being shoved in the wall" over my own luxurious stateroom or whatever. A hole in the wall is much easier to maintain and look after.
 
Besides, in all honesty, if I had a say in the matter I'd probably prefer "being shoved in the wall" over my own luxurious stateroom or whatever. A hole in the wall is much easier to maintain and look after.
And given the structured and ordered environments of the Federation, it's probably the most efficient for the lower deckers to take care of.
 
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Reminds me of 3 Stooges episodes. lol


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When I was serving in the Navy, my bunk was on a thoroughfare along with one above and one below me, More were stacked across the aisle which On Duty personnel could move forward or aft on at any time.

Kinda like the sleeping car on old trains, except more compact. There were also tables with chairs attached bolted down along the center.

Not everyone in the hub was in their racks at the same time, that depended on which shift someone was on. And most thankfully, our bunks were not shared.

I can relate to lower decker lives in a corridor very well.
 
Yikes. Glad I didn't join the service.

That is not all. Many possible phobias could come into play on the Ocean.

Just to name a few, Submechanophobia, Naviphobia, Thalassophobia, Cymophobia, Megalohydrothalassophobia and depending on your station, even Acrophobia might haunt you.

How my 6'4" uncle served in the submarine service I will never know.

IIRC, my bunk length and even depth was fine, the height felt lacking. My face felt close to the underside of the top bunk. Sleep came fast though. lol
 
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