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Set blueprint exchange

A few more sets to search for if you can find them (apart from the FC corridor/engineering set up)

Enterprise-E bridge airlock (First Contact only)
Voyager Shuttlebay
Enterprise-D airlock (1001001).
Enterprise-E "Major" Jefferies tube (The other segment that Lily and Picard have the standoff in)
Enterprise-E captain's yacht dock.

This lot on Christie's: http://www.christies.com/lotfinder/...ints-4779575-details.aspx?intObjectID=4779575 seemed to have all the E-E sets we were looking for, I can't find images attached to it though, but at least it's a start. Maybe we can search by lot numbers somewhere. Or someone knows who bought it.
Alternatively, the missing E-E sets may be in the Star Trek sketchbook according to memory-beta, but I can't find it in store anywhere: http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation_Sketchbook:_The_Movies
 
Some more flickr updates, additional set plans plus images from the Count's photobucket (link earlier in the thread)

A set blueprint from the wrath of Kahn, but I'm not sure what the set is
https://www.flickr.com/photos/99878876@N02/14222662762/

The Motion Picture Klingon Bridge View Screen:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/99878876@N02/14224834214/


TNG album has been updated - added images from Count and also the arboretum from Data's day (https://www.flickr.com/photos/99878876@N02/14225016285/) - does the arboretum appear in any other episode (including reuse as something else)?


NX Enterprise album: https://www.flickr.com/photos/99878876@N02/sets/72157644182742028/
Added:
Sweet spot set plan
Set sketches (most not to scale, but gives a nice overview with some detail)


DS9 Album updated: https://www.flickr.com/photos/99878876@N02/sets/72157644622300365/
As well as adding images from Count's upload, I've also added

Ops set model - this was made by glueing a photocopy of the set plans onto foamboard and then cutting it up. As a result it still has some measurements written on it
Bajoran temple A set model
Bajoran Temple B set model
Bajoran conference room from "the seige" - same as ops, has measurements on it
Stage 18 - runabout, holosuit, saratoga bridge, cardassian ship, and monastary from the first episode - https://www.flickr.com/photos/99878876@N02/14037979799/
Stage 7 - what you leave behind - https://www.flickr.com/photos/99878876@N02/14224442394/

Bajoran ship and captains yacht (labelled as such, but I can't think of any captain yacht that used this set on DS9)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/99878876@N02/14038050030/in/photostream/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/99878876@N02/14224442624/in/photostream/



Thanks to Count there is now a new album, the Romulan DS9 ship interior album
https://www.flickr.com/photos/99878876@N02/sets/72157644697519126/


And the TNG romulan ship album gains Mendak's ready room (https://www.flickr.com/photos/99878876@N02/14225040025/) - I think it was used instead of a full bridge set in "Data's Day"



I found some early Phase II set concepts (some with dimensions) - Although Phase II was cancelled, some sets such as the phase II engineering was converted to TMP engineering
https://www.flickr.com/photos/99878876@N02/sets/72157644337724639/

The command deck (is a bridge? conference room? both?) makes me think of the TMP klingon bridge, I wonder if it was built and converted or simply used as a drawing base. https://www.flickr.com/photos/99878876@N02/14038080509/in/set-72157644337724639

Phase II shuttle - views of all sides and cross sections - nice looking but seems a bit cramped
https://www.flickr.com/photos/99878876@N02/sets/72157644337590977/
 
I've just bought a copy of the the star trek sketchbook : the movies (£2 used) and hopefully should get it soon. If there are any blueprints inside I will scan and upload.
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Nice! I can't find any locally, but from what that link I sent before reads, the complete Enterprise-B sets, the Enterprise-E engineering/corridors, airlock and deflector sets, should all be in that book.




This turbolift plan (https://www.flickr.com/photos/99878876@N02/14200411555/) - the number at the bottom looks to be 5' 5" to my eye (though it is hard to tell)
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Cool, that does look like 5'5", so that means that the turbolift carriage is 10'10" in diameter.

A set blueprint from the wrath of Kahn, but I'm not sure what the set is
https://www.flickr.com/photos/99878876@N02/14222662762[/COLOR]
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Regula I transporter room.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/99878876@N02/14038050030/in/photostream/
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There was no Yacht in DS9 except for the solar sailer, I believe, based roughly on the shape, that it may in fact be the Captain's Yacht set from Insurrection, the shape is roughly right. But it could have been redressed enough that it makes it hard to tell.

That Stage 7 set, I believe is the fire caves and the cardassian central command room, but the corridors are missing.
 
Count said:
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Cool, that does look like 5'5", so that means that the turbolift carriage is 10'10" in diameter.

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See, to my eye that fuzzy collection pixels looks like "4' 3"" for a diameter 8'6", which seems more likely to me.

So, here's a quick and dirty study of the Turbo lift image. I skewed the image to compensate roughly for the angle of the photograph.

Turbolift_cross_section_Scaling.jpg


The yellow box is the measurement I understand to be in question. I read it as 4' 3" and the (presumably six foot tall) Tuvok on the left is scaled to the assumption of 4' 3".

If the measurement is 5" 5" then the little six foot tall Tuvok on the right is more or less correct.

The center, tallest six foot tall Tuvok is scaled assuming that the 4' 3" figure is actually meant to extend from the turbolift center to the outer wall rather than the point where the vertical line is. This is the one that looks closest to me.

What do you think, sirs?


--Alex
 
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Albertese said:
Count said:
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Cool, that does look like 5'5", so that means that the turbolift carriage is 10'10" in diameter.

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See, to my eye that fuzzy collection pixels looks like "4' 3"" for a diameter 8'6", which seems more likely to me.

So, here's a quick and dirty study of the Turbo lift image. I skewed the image to compensate roughly for the angle of the photograph.

Turbolift_cross_section_Scaling.jpg


The yellow box is the measurement I understand to be in question. I read it as 4' 3" and the (presumably six foot tall) Tuvok on the left is scaled to the assumption of 4' 3".

If the measurement is 5" 5" then the little six foot tall Tuvok on the right is more or less correct.

The center, tallest six foot tall Tuvok is scaled assuming that the 4' 3" figure is actually meant to extend from the turbolift center to the outer wall rather than the point where the vertical line is. This is the one that looks closest to me.

What do you think, sirs?


--Alex
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Looks about righ with what i've got. I've measured hte turbolift doors as 6'8" roughly (or 6'4" on some TNG doors) based on Jonathan Frakes profile shots, and the doors are roughly 3'-3'4" wide. So that jives with what you're seeing.

In my original 3d models, i had the widest point of the turbolifts at an even 10' and it looked about right. But if we revise the radius to 4'3" then 8'6" then i'd say the widest point is roughly 9' or so, possibly 9'5". Which is why 10' would look ok from a distance.

height wise, that diagram seemed to say 12'1" as the elevation on the bottom right, but someone would need to double check that for me
 
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I don't think that's true. I think the overall diameter of 8' 6" is correct. Actors in the set seem to have their shoulders near the bottom of the upper padded area. This is where big Tuvok ends up in my analysis. The larger the diameter, the smaller the people are gonna look.

I'm not sure what lower right note you're seeing is, but the note I'm seeing is just a scale note. It says "Elevation/Section @ CL (Centerline) 1/2" - 1' 0" " I don't see anything about 12' 1", where are you seeing that?

--Alex
 
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Albertese said:
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I don't think that's true. I think the overall diameter of 8' 6" is correct. Actors in the set seem to have their shoulders near the bottom of the upper padded area. This is where big Tuvok ends up in my analysis. The larger the diameter, the smaller the people are gonna look.

I'm not sure what lower right note you're seeing is, but the note I'm seeing is just a scale note. It says "Elevation/Section @ CL (Centerline) 1/2" - 1' 0" " I don't see anything about 12' 1", where are you seeing that?

--Alex
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which bit isnt true? the door sizes or the diameter? It's possible they're narrower than 9, but from how i read that diagram, the 4'3" explicitly refers to the narrowest part of the elevator.

Yea, and i may have misread the elevation section bit.
 
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Yeah, I couldn't say without a better look at that print. I think we're reading it right with 4' 3" and you're right about how the dimension seems marked. But, the mid-scale Tuvok in my illustration is correct for that dimension to be 4' 3"... and you can see how small he seems.

This why I feel the overall dimension is 4' 3", because the Tuvok scaled to that assumption looks pretty good.

So, what's going on?

Off the top of my head, there are seversl possibiliries. 1) The line was drawn wrong and it's a draftsman's error. 2) The prints are from an earlier planning stage and were changed, built differently for some reason. 3) We are reading it correctly, but there is some other info on another sheet or not visible on this one at this angle in this low resolution. 4) My angle correction is WAY more off than I think likely.

In any case, an 8.5 foot (maybe 9) turbolift seems much more likely than a 10 or 11 foot one. This would also be more in fitting with the lifts from every other version of Trek. Also, when watching the show, the set just doesn't look that big.

--Alex
 
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Redgeneral said:
I found some early Phase II set concepts (some with dimensions) - Although Phase II was cancelled, some sets such as the phase II engineering was converted to TMP engineering
https://www.flickr.com/photos/99878876@N02/sets/72157644337724639/

The command deck (is a bridge? conference room? both?) makes me think of the TMP klingon bridge, I wonder if it was built and converted or simply used as a drawing base. https://www.flickr.com/photos/99878876@N02/14038080509/in/set-72157644337724639
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Some very interesting details in these set concepts! I like the circular red ladder, which provides some nice continuity back to the triangular ladders in TOS. And it looks like they were going to update the transporter, changing it into a "Metatransit System" with a "Metafier". Unless that's supposed to be a replacement for the turbolifts?
 
Oh, a few more to keep an eye out on.

Voyager Plasma Relay room (Good Sheppard).
TV series Jefferies tubes (TNG/DS9/Voyager).

I'm searching, not having much luck, they could possibly be bundled somewhere.
 
BTW, just did some research, with a few minor redresses, the USS Righteous jefferies tube junction (From Star Trek Borg) was the enterprise-e's service junction too (The section where Lily ambushed picard, or where the sickbay staff evacced to.

So if anyone can find the STBOrg set blueprints too, that'll help narrow a few things down.
 
I've just found out that the Phase II shuttle was originally designed for the show Starship, but when that show was scrapped, it was updated for Phase II. When Phase II was replaced with TMP, the shuttle was scrapped.

Maurice - thanks for the identifying of the sheet, I completely missed the name on the side


Some more uploads:

TMP:
Drawings of the officer's lounge (https://www.flickr.com/photos/99878876@N02/14243239284/)
The San Francisco Air Tram with a few measurements (https://www.flickr.com/photos/99878876@N02/14056937240/)
Stage plans with door stickers added (https://www.flickr.com/photos/99878876@N02/14240238771/, https://www.flickr.com/photos/99878876@N02/14220395576/, https://www.flickr.com/photos/99878876@N02/14243238984/)

Enterprise E:
Close up of the Enterprise Bridge plans (top left section) with readable numbers (https://www.flickr.com/photos/99878876@N02/14056921758/)

NX Enterprise:
Stage 8 - sicbay and corridors (larger than before but still blurry) https://www.flickr.com/photos/99878876@N02/14263759483/
Stage 18 - bridge, shuttlebay, armoury, corridors, transporter (larger than before but still blurry) https://www.flickr.com/photos/99878876@N02/14220433936/
Engineering room overview - https://www.flickr.com/photos/99878876@N02/14243275484/

Warp core end detail / controls (readable numbers) - https://www.flickr.com/photos/99878876@N02/14243584575/
Warp core whole - https://www.flickr.com/photos/99878876@N02/14241354652/
 
Redgeneral said:
I've just found out that the Phase II shuttle was originally designed for the show Starship, but when that show was scrapped, it was updated for Phase II. When Phase II was replaced with TMP, the shuttle was scrapped.

Maurice - thanks for the identifying of the sheet, I completely missed the name on the side


Some more uploads:

TMP:
Drawings of the officer's lounge (https://www.flickr.com/photos/99878876@N02/14243239284/)
The San Francisco Air Tram with a few measurements (https://www.flickr.com/photos/99878876@N02/14056937240/)
Stage plans with door stickers added (https://www.flickr.com/photos/99878876@N02/14240238771/, https://www.flickr.com/photos/99878876@N02/14220395576/, https://www.flickr.com/photos/99878876@N02/14243238984/)

Enterprise E:
Close up of the Enterprise Bridge plans (top left section) with readable numbers (https://www.flickr.com/photos/99878876@N02/14056921758/)

NX Enterprise:
Stage 8 - sicbay and corridors (larger than before but still blurry) https://www.flickr.com/photos/99878876@N02/14263759483/
Stage 18 - bridge, shuttlebay, armoury, corridors, transporter (larger than before but still blurry) https://www.flickr.com/photos/99878876@N02/14220433936/
Engineering room overview - https://www.flickr.com/photos/99878876@N02/14243275484/

Warp core end detail / controls (readable numbers) - https://www.flickr.com/photos/99878876@N02/14243584575/
Warp core whole - https://www.flickr.com/photos/99878876@N02/14241354652/
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Nice, did you have any joy with that movies sketchbook for the E-E and E-B plans?

I'd offer to put more up, but you've pretty much now got everything i have in terms of blueprints. So there's not much more in can offer.
 
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