I don't mind the Gallifrey stuff, but once the Doctor and Clara escape Gallifrey it just becomes monologue after monologue after monologue.
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Dammit!! And I'm usually so careful with my spelling. Now I shall have to flagellate myself as punishment.
"Oh yeah, we got out of the time lock millennia ago. But thanks for stopping by."
^ Honestly, that is peak Time Lord.
And waited from Day Of The Doctor till Hell Bent to do it, and wasn't even trying then
I don't know how many Doctor years went by in that span, but things happened and there was stuff....and shenanigans.
Kinda makes me wonder how Capaldi would've handled the material. Honestly, its exciting as an idea.Yet Peter Capaldi just delivering monologues to the camera is more captivating than whatever The Battle of The Extremely Long Title was...
Moffat did admit restoring Gallifrey was a mistake and apologised for it. And given he had previously indicated he doesn't like the Time Lords anyway, just getting Gallifrey stuff in Hell Bent is quite surprising.
Series 11 DVD and Blu-ray is released on Monday. It is a bit depressing reading some of the reviews on Amazon: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Doctor-Who...show_all_btm?ie=UTF8&reviewerType=all_reviews
I for one will be getting the Blu-ray.
I for one will be getting the Blu-ray.
I don't know if that's the specific page, but some of those "reviews" were put up before S11 even premiered. End of the world type stuff.
Silly the story might have been but I never liked the Time War/Last of the Time Lords nonsense to begin with. That got tedious before Eccleston was done. That, and the Daleks kept coming back like cockroaches making the point of the Time Lock business ludicrous. Best the business was done away with.
Totally disagree. It added depth and some weight to the Doctor's character, and made his plight for saving the universe from such destruction more earnest. I don't dislike what Moffat did in Day per se, but I don't love that the Doctor's angst was gone away like that.
I think the Last of the Time Lords was a good way to reset the story for a reboot without having to jettison all that came before. The problem is, it became a bit of an albatross as the series went on and we got more Daleks.
I do think it should have been saved but remained lost for another show runner to deal with. But I get the feeling that Moffat was somewhat leery of not being the one to do it, so he did it as a fan more so than a show runner or dramatist. I also have an entire "Fanon" in my mind that would have done a lot of what Day of the Doctor did for the character and the Warrior but also have kept Gallifrey off the table.
I do think it should have been saved but remained lost for another show runner to deal with. But I get the feeling that Moffat was somewhat leery of not being the one to do it, so he did it as a fan more so than a show runner or dramatist. I also have an entire "Fanon" in my mind that would have done a lot of what Day of the Doctor did for the character and the Warrior but also have kept Gallifrey off the table.
Yeah, it's a big problem with Amazon and other similar type sites, that reviews are no advance attacks with political aims, rather than what peaople think of the thing after they bought it. Really there needs to be some algorithm for judging quality that totally ignores them.
Honestly, I would've been fine if we'd never seen the Time Lords or Gallifrey ever again, at least during Moffat's run, after Day. You already have Tom Baker telling us "they're out there" so, maybe one far off day we'd see them, but not just now.
Part of the reason I dislike Hell Bent, aside from being Moffat's most cynical piece of writing (just nothing but monologues), its Moffat's own send-up to the concept of finding Gallifrey. Well, you brought them back in the first place, you dimwit!
Well, I knew pretty much going in that the destruction of Gallifrey was going to be undone (DotD was my introduction to the franchise), but I have to admit that after starting from the beginning every time that the Daleks showed up, with the exception of "Dalek" in S1, I found myself glad that it was to be undone because the Daleks very presence made the Doctor look foolish. The man who destroyed his people... for nothing.
Yeah, one Amazon review for Resolution was "I didn't have to watch it to know how bad it would be".
I actually am glad the Time Lords are back. Being the last of the Time Lords and all was cool for awhile, but it got old. Particularly with the Daleks coming back all the time. I'm glad the they're back, I just wish it was presented in a better fashion. Maybe a search that leads to an exciting and dramatic return. Not what we got. The mistake was how they were brought back.
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