Season 6: The Re-watch!

[Jack Bauer]

I think when we saw Boone on 815 in LA X he was already awakened either fully or partially. I just have that feeling. There was odd about the way he seemed so relaxed and he said "if the plane crashes I think I'll stick with you" or something like that made it seem like he knew he had done that before. Bernard seemed that way too when he told Rose that he missed her after just being in the bathroom for a few minutes. That was quite odd.

 

[RoJoHen]

Bernard seemed that way too when he told Rose that he missed her after just being in the bathroom for a few minutes. That was quite odd.

It was actually the other way around. Rose told Bernard that she missed him. And she told Jack it was all right to "Let go," which was pretty much the entire theme of the finale. Rose DEFINITELY knew where she was.

 

[sidious618]

I finished the rewatch last night. I love this season even more on rewatch. I think it's my favorite and I noticed a lot of parallels between the hatch and the "source" which raises a few interesting ideas.

And yes, I was teary eyed throughout the ending even though I've watched the youtube clips of it ten times before getting the DVDs.

 

[Jack Bauer]

Bernard seemed that way too when he told Rose that he missed her after just being in the bathroom for a few minutes. That was quite odd.

It was actually the other way around. Rose told Bernard that she missed him. And she told Jack it was all right to "Let go," which was pretty much the entire theme of the finale. Rose DEFINITELY knew where she was.

Ah, you're right. I haven't started rewatching season 6 yet (and last saw LA X a few months ago on Lost Weekends). I want to see the previous 5 seasons first.

 

[RoJoHen]

LA X, especially the opening on the plane, is so cool upon rewatch when you know what's really going on. They practically beat you over the head with it, but since you don't know the context yet, you have no idea.

 

[DonIago]

I was a very bad person...was going to wait to start a weekly viewing with friends, but my patience totally failed me and I rewatched chunks of a bunch of episodes the same night I got the set.

But...but...I just wanted to see how good it looked on Blu Ray...

 

[Jack Bauer]

That's why I don't get the ending was tacked on stuff. Rewatching that scene knowing the final meaning of the sideways you can tell it was totally set up in plain view there.

While watching the bonus features on the 5th disk I had to rewatch the final 10 minutes of The End and it blew me away how emotional that was. I was on the verge of sobbing out loud. I was quitely crying but I almost was gasping. It was one of the most moving scenes i've ever seen on tv or even in film.

 

[RoJoHen]

Oh, it was absolutely planned. But like most of LOST's mysteries, you don't realize they were planned until you watch it again.

 

[sidious618]

Oh, it was absolutely planned. But like most of LOST's mysteries, you don't realize they were planned until you watch it again.

In the season three premiere Jack hears Christian's voice telling him to let go when he's in the empty shark tank.

 

[Jack Bauer]

In the commentary Darlton mentioned that the ending was conceived of after season 3 when ABC agreed to end the show in three more seasons. I'm sure there's some other groundwork being laid in seasons 4 and 5. I'll look for it on my rewatch.

 

[sidious618]

In the commentary Darlton mentioned that the ending was conceived of after season 3 when ABC agreed to end the show in three more seasons. I'm sure there's some other groundwork being laid in seasons 4 and 5. I'll look for it on my rewatch.

No, the flash-sideways were concieved then. The ending in the church was known all along.

 

[RoJoHen]

Jack letting go has been a running theme from the very beginning. It's actually one of my favorite things about the finale. That even in death, Jack is too stubborn to let himself remember his life. He has about 3 or 4 flashes throughout the episode but always forces himself to stop remembering.

 

[Jack Bauer]

You kinda thought he had it figured and sorted out right before he died but he didn't. Some people take a long time to learn.

 

[Hober Mallow]

No, the flash-sideways were concieved then. The ending in the church was known all along.

They've said the ending with Christian was JJ's original ending, but given what they set up in season one, with Christian's coffin empty and his apparition apparently leading Jack around the island, I kinda of think JJ's original idea may have been this: they were dead all along, and in the end, Christian leads the others to "moving on." When the producers later decided that was lame and obvious, they went in different directions. But maybe the flash sideways ending was conceived to allow for JJ's original ending, simply in a different form.

I've no evidence at all for this, but you never know.

 

[DevilEyes]

I'd tend to assume he remembered off-screen. Though I found it interesting and perhaps amusingly subtextual that at The End Boone and Locke are the only single people there...unless I'm misremembering?

I'm not sure what you mean. Locke was definitely marrying Helen in the flashsideways.

 

[DonIago]

Did she make it to the church on time?

 

[RoJoHen]

She wasn't invited to the church. She was an illusion created by the flash-sideways, much like Jack's son. She didn't have anything to do with the Island or the time they spent there.

 

[DonIago]

That too. (goes back to his disturbing-yet-strangely-intriguing BLocke fantasies)

 

[doubleohfive]

She wasn't invited to the church. She was an illusion created by the flash-sideways, much like Jack's son. She didn't have anything to do with the Island or the time they spent there.

That's interesting... I mean, I have no problem assuming David Shephard was a figment of the flash-sideways universe for Jack and Juliet's benefit ... but I hadn't considered the possibility that Helen, Anthony Cooper, Ethan, Keamy, Omar, etc. --people who weren't in the church, yet still characters we'd already met-- weren't in fact the flash-sideways versions of them as well.

I mean, it's certainly a nice bow-tie to the whole concept of the flash-sideways but I also kind of like the idea that they were in fact the "real" flashsideways representations of themselves also.

Oh look, LOST is making me think. Again. SHOCK!

 

[DevilEyes]

Did she make it to the church on time?

She wasn't in the church because she didn't matter to Jack, he didn't even know her. The church was Jack's fantasy/passing into the other life, so all the people who were there were those that played a role in his life and specifically what happened to him on the Island.

And there is no reason to think she is any more "a figment of the imagination" than Juliet, or Claire, or Miles, or anyone else.