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Runaway (1984) Reboot? (Tv series or movie?) Ideas, Thoughts?

Runaway Reboot?

  • Would do better as a Movie / Movie series

    Votes: 2 33.3%
  • Would be better as a Tv/stream series

    Votes: 3 50.0%
  • Not a good idea, let it be

    Votes: 1 16.7%
  • Good Idea but.. ( Enter Comment)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Other

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    6

valkyrie013

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Hi! Started writing this in the Reboot thread, but kind of gotten kind of lengthy, and will be thinking about it and updating this thread so decided to be its own Thread since it will go beyond just a mention.

So.
Runaway (1984) With Tom Selleck and Directed by Michael Crition.

I love old sci fi, 80's sci fi has a soft spot for me, and this movie I've always liked, its very cheesy, and it doesn't age well at all, but its the best they could have done it seems at the time.
Now in the movie, it seemed that robots, alot of "non human" shaped ones, were in everybody's lives, to the point of having a "Rosie Housebot" to cook and look after the kids.
With all the robots, doing jobs, alot in the house like Rooba, Alexa, etc. that the concept is ripe to be redone.
Now, could be a reboot movie, but I feel it would do quite well as a series.

Same Story, Can be any police department in any city, but lets stick with LAPD, Each city has a Runaway Squad, that deals with malfunctioning robots. As in the movie some insurance/legal reason, the police have to take care of the robots when they malfunction, can be from a House AI messing with the house, to the House Robot going on the fritz, to industrial robots, and even Autonomous Cars/Trucks/Planes/Drones. ( A Whole LOT of potential plots). Maybe some plots of corporate intrigue and malfeasance. But unlike a Skynet or some other "Bad Robot" series/movie, this one would be generally optimistic, that we'll get through the tough times.
Sure some episodes of, The robot took my job, or maybe some general "Human Supremacy" stuff. Maybe deal with a High Unemployment. Lots of possibilities. Maybe some people who intentionally take off say an arm or leg for a robot one?

Sgt. Ramsey Character, any gender, race etc, just the best actor/actress. Still have the wife/husband pass away a few years back, have a kid, (Son Daughter) but have the kid be a computer/robot wiz. Have the kid be there own character.
Same back story, beat cop that has vertigo/scared of heights, got into the runaway squad in its infancy and is the de facto "Chief" of the unit. Still have a rookie partner/love interest, Maybe have a bionic leg or arm from an accident, that "May" malfunction. But generally the same, Ramsey takes the Runaway calls, grabs who he/she needs and goes take care of it. Maybe find out latter in the first season that a robot caused his wife's death, and this is exploited by Luthor for a time, but Ramsey overcomes it, and doesn't hate robots.

First season could use the Luthor Villain as the main bad guy. (Same, any gender/race/etc.)
Now Luthor could be fleshed out to be some one that had his work stolen by higher ups, or something happened to a loved one where a robot either accidentally, or by a " Three Laws" type of thing where the robot killed the loved one, and Luthor ends up having a robot hatred, and creates the chips to cause chaos and make people afraid that the robots would go haywire. Maybe him pushing the "Human Supremacy" movement more violent ( Shades of today?)
Start with a kind of Holmes/Moriarty kind of deal where they don't show Luthor till like half way into the series. Maybe have Jackie as the "Irene Adler for Ramsey, Pseudo love interest, working for Luthor, or the highest bidder, Assigned by Luthor to get closer to Ramsey, as Luthor sees Ramsey as his biggest hurdle.
Now Luthor Still has the Homing Hand gun, and plenty of Robot Spiders!

At the end of the First season, Luthor is done, and move on to another main villain for the 2nd season, Kind of like the CW hero shows have a Season baddy, but no real "Series Arc" Not saying some threads couldn't roll over into new seasons, but at the moment can't really thing of a "Series Arc" plot. Was thinking a "Loose" series that has a big bad, but more episodic in nature, with lingering plot points.
Maybe 2nd season, or other seasons be a Cooperate villain, or some government type that's jealous of Ramsey.

Anyways, Just feel that this is a good concept that can be revisited, and is ALOT better than rebooting things that maybe only 10 years old? Go for some stuff that had "Good Bones" but just didn't do good at the movies, or on Tv, and do it better.
 
Having some other thoughts..
I don't think I would go the full blown sentient AI story, at least in the first few seasons, because most robots would be just well programed, it may have life like qualities, like being able to answer, or form questions, but that would be based on programing to better be able to do the jobs there built for, so say a Home basic AI or a Home robot would be like Lois, and the interactions would be based on entered program, and feedback it recives and updated data. Say like Alexa gets better, or how, creepily, google search results are predictive, or ads that might be useful stuff. So something like some of the Japanese robots that are interactive. Maybe a basic Theory of Mind, or a Narrow AI for the robots that interact with humans, alot of the robots would just be "Dumb" like the ones that currently build our cars, do a specific function that it was programed to with limited interaction. So you'd have say a 5 robot team that would build a house, only doing what they were programed to do, with no ability to learn. They would be recording what is happening, so a human could reprogram them to do a better job, but would be unable to on there own.

Hmm, maybe Luthor's "Chips" could be a weak Ai chip that takes control and makes the normally "Dumb" robots do deeds there not programed to do. Like that robot in the movie that grabbed the knife, and the gun.
And at the end of Season 1, someone else gets there hands on the chips, and goes in there own direction.

Maybe a latter season story could be a corporation or government trying to make a General or Super AI.

There's also stuff like the Boston Dynamics robots that in the future could be used as delivery drones, or helpers Were already doing Driverless trucks, etc.

Any other thoughts on this type of future? Robots are coming, I'm just wondering in which way?
 
Pretty sure it's been thirty or so years since I last watched this but have been meaning to watch it again.

It had some decent ideas in and I could see a remake/series.
 
Isn't this the crappy overbudgeted movie Kirstie Alley did instead of coming back for ST:III, and then ST:III and Terminator (mostly Terminator...) crushed it at the box office?
Yeah, never watched it. I can count on one hand the number of 80's robot movies I can deal with, and if it doesn't involve Arnie, Peter Weller or Johnny-Five then I'm not massively interested.

As for a remake...here's the thing, these days nobody wants to remake a movie almost nobody has heard of because the whole point of remakes is to take advantage of a built in audience. No matter how many times it doesn't actually work out that way, they're still not going to put serious money up for a little known Crichton adaptation that fell flat the first time.
 
Other than watching the film, I'm unfamiliar with Crichton's original story, and it's been 26+ years since I saw it last, so I'll just say this; knowing Crichton had the occasional penchant for doing his own version of a better known story (see Eaters of the Dead/The Thirteenth Warrior, an adaptation of Beowulf), my memory of this film is one of seeing the robot elements as a way of telling I, Robot without telling I, Robot. I wonder if that might have been the idea, and the overstory with Gene Simmons' character was meant to distract from it?
 
I think I would have problems watching this film nowadays, if for no other reason that since Blue Bloods became my favorite TV series of all time, I am incapable of seeing Tom Selleck as anyone other than Frank Reagan.
 
Other than watching the film, I'm unfamiliar with Crichton's original story, and it's been 26+ years since I saw it last, so I'll just say this; knowing Crichton had the occasional penchant for doing his own version of a better known story (see Eaters of the Dead/The Thirteenth Warrior, an adaptation of Beowulf), my memory of this film is one of seeing the robot elements as a way of telling I, Robot without telling I, Robot. I wonder if that might have been the idea, and the overstory with Gene Simmons' character was meant to distract from it?
Not really, the robots are there, but there is no main robot protagonist, there are no AI's going rogue, just a police officer chasing malfunctioning robots, usually like the ones on assembly lines that are Dumb.
Now the Villian uses a chip to make them go rogue, and do things that they aren't programed to do, but there's no cop that hates robots, no AI trying to take over the world, no "3 laws" to protect humans, most robots are slightly more smart than a roomba.
Now a series that I was theorizing may involve the evolution of some AI, or people trying, but even then its a bunch of dumb robots.
 
I’d also have a human villain, but use some of the Boston robotics (if they would allow it)

You think it is an AI, but more like a demon seed mainframe with the bots as waldos.

Steel from bebop and have the villain be a bedridden individual.

Hang some Skynet and Weyland Yutani stuff for a red herring
 
I love this movie it had some really neat ideas that could have been explored more. That smart bullet for one was such a neat concept. Didn't they try doing this in real life?

As a one off movie it could be good if they expand on one or two themes from the original, but as a series I don't know if that would work without adding new characters and adding more details along the way.
 
What I remember best about this movie is Cynthia Rhodes and how godawful attractive she was with that 'girl next door' face and rockette body. Kirstie Allie was also at her hottest and Gene Simmons had been making the rounds in B-movies as a villain, the other noteable one I remember being 'Wanted Dead or Alive' with Rutger Hauer.

In regards to the OP, I think this one was a quaint 80's gem that is best to let lie. It was sort of groundbreaking at the time in terms of ideas about robotics, but the term 'artificial intelligence' may not even have been coined yet. Look at more recent shows like Humans, movies like Bladerunner, and other sci-fi efforts, there are far more compelling and 'modern' storylines/shows/movies that could be done.
 
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