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Predict the Rotten Tomatoes & Metacritic score for ST : Beyond

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Star Trek 2009

RT : 95%
Metacritic: 83/100

Star Trek Into Darkness

RT: 87%
Metacritic: 72/100

My prediction for Star Trek Beyond compared to the last films.

Star Trek Beyond


RT: 77%
Metacritic: 64/100

I do think I will end up loving Beyond more than Into Darkness and Beyond could even be the better movie but I think the critical reception will be much lower than Into Darkness because it is not directed by JJ Abrams.
 
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While I look forward to this, I do get the sense that the knives are out for this one. Even if it turns out to be good, I see clickbait reviewers ready to deem it a failure with the departure of Abrams and such nonsense.

I do predict that this forum's favorite personality Devin Faraci will love it. The guy has shown positive buzz about this flick ever since the departure of Bob Orci (and I can't blame him for that). Such he rarely showed with the previous films.
 
I hope (respectfully) Dales is wrong about this. That wouldn't be good. I predict somewhere between into darkness and 09, although hope for 96% 85/100.
 
My prediction for Star Trek Beyond compared to the last films.

Star Trek Beyond


RT: 77%
Metacritic: 64/100

I do think I will end up loving Beyond more than Into Darkness and Beyond could even be the better movie but I think the critical reception will be much lower than Into Darkness because it is not directed by JJ Abrams.
So we aren't just idly throwing numbers around, why not give some substance to your thread (and to your predictions) by explaining the reasoning which leads you to select those specific RT and Metacritic scores, as opposed to any other numbers?

And why not do the same in explaining your belief that "the critical reception will be much lower than Into Darkness"? In what way(s) will it be lower, and why?
 
Reasons for a good score: 50th anniversary good feelings. The 5 year mission/exploration. More adventurous tone. The fact it came out in 3 years instead of 4. Trailers look great. Idris Elba.

Star Trek Beyond

RT: 92%
Metacritic: 82/100

Box Office: $270 million US $285 million WW=$555 million

RAMA
 
Star Trek Beyond

RT: 75%
Metacritic: 62/100

$210 million (US Box Office)
$250 million (Overseas)

$460 million Worldwide total
 
Reasons for a good score: 50th anniversary good feelings. The 5 year mission/exploration. More adventurous tone. The fact it came out in 3 years instead of 4. Trailers look great. Idris Elba.

Star Trek Beyond

RT: 92%
Metacritic: 82/100

Box Office: $270 million US $285 million WW=$555 million

RAMA
I think you are right on, except for the box office... I see the domestic take being higher, possibly closer to $350 mil with a big opening weekend and higher 3D prices.
 
As long as we're all making predictions, I'll have a go too!

Star Trek Beyond

RT: 91%.
Metacritic: 78/100.

Box Office: $255 million North America + $340 million International = $595 million WW.

For it to make $255 million in North America, the opening 3 day weekend needs to be about $80 million.
 
I think you are right on, except for the box office... I see the domestic take being higher, possibly closer to $350 mil with a big opening weekend and higher 3D prices.

As much as I'd like that to be true, I think 350million domestic is pure fantasy land.

My prediction
$200million domestic
$300million international
$500million total
 
Hmm...

RT Score: 91%
Metacritic: 76/100
Box Office: $313 million Domestic / $380 million foreign = $693 million worldwide

I base these numbers on the following: Anton Yelchin's recent passing may give incentive to go see his final film. Idris Elba will draw in a significant crowd. Justin Lin's name will add to that media hype. I believe the film will draw in new and curious fans, and that the end result will be a boost in box office. The appeal of Star Trek worlwide will increase as it has the past two films, so I figure the foreign markets will show a boost overall as well.
 
I can see it struggling to 200mill domestic to be honest. You've got the latest Ice Age movie out on the same day, (granted not the same audience but there's only so many dollars to go around) and Jason Bourne the following weekend. I'd be amazed if it breaks 250 domestic. This talk of 300+ is Marvel territory.
 
Guessing mid 50s for "professional" reviewers. Fans being a bit more forgiving will give it low 70s.
 
They managed to successfully revive a dead franchise AND ram it right back into the ground within two movies. It was funny reading the rotten tomatoes score for Into Darkness, where the literally counted reviews saying "struggles on all parts and barely succedes as a sequel" as a positive review... That being said, that wasn't because Into Darkness was a bad movie (It wasn't). It was just mediocre movie. What killed the momentum was that we had to wait 4(!) years to get a sequel, starving anticipation, and then not delivering (domestically, even with added 3d it was much worse received than the first part).

Based on that, my predictions for Beyond:
- Beyond will be a better movie than Into Darkness. Maybe even better (at least more coherent) than Trek09
- But that won't please the critics. The "freshness" is gone, and this movie won't be total gamechanger, so they will rip it apart for both not being directed by JJ Abrams and not being new and different enough
- That being said, the 50th anniversary will give them some goodwill, and critics will highlight Anton Yelchin

-I guess most reviews will be on the barely-favourible side. Which means the Rotten-tomatoes score will be pretty high (better than Into Darkness, about the level as Trek09), probably about 90%. But since all those "positive" reviews will contain a lot of negatives as well, the Metacritic score will be tha worst of those three, maybe 60/100.
Audience reaction will be the best of them all, since they will just compare the quality of the movie with the other two, without setting it much in context about how much time has passed/how innovative it is compared to the other two at the time. Audience reaction (Imdb score?) will be much better than Into Darkness and maybe even better than Trek09, aka very good.


Final verdict:

Critics will praise Justin Lin for having a better handling of the characters, and it generally feeling more like the traditional Star Trek and being better at the quiter moments, but lacking the energy of JJ Abrams direction style, especially in the by-the-numbers action sequences. They will giving it the usual dwindling scores for sequels. Audience rating on the other hand will maybe the best ot the three, or at least as good as Trek09. Box office will be slightly better than Into Darkness domestic, but internationally much better than the previous two.
 
I think STB can surprise. Trekkers will watch the movie (are this movie making you curious?). Many people like JJ Abrams and Justin Lin. Idris Elba is a well-known and beloved actor. The second trailer has made quite an impression on fans and aroused curiosity of non-trekkers. Some people will watch the film to see Anton Yelchin.
 
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Yeah, I think "Beyond" will be a big step-up in terms of plot and characters. But it will probably still be panned for being "just another sequel". I think the movie will be pretty good, but for general audiences, there's not a lot what's "completely new and fresh" compared to the previous two movies. It simply won't have the "all new, all different"-effect that Trek09 had at it's time. Even though it'll probably be comparatively better, It's not going to be a game-changing movie. And thus there will probably be a lot of sequel-fatigue between the critics.
 
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