Potential Hot Take

[Dukhat]

We have to admit, the plan to build an expensive, mock Enterprise interior on the ground and lure Kirk there because he once had meningitis is bat-ass crazy for three reasons:

• If you can get Kirk down for an official visit, you can "incidentally" talk him into a blood draw with some story about medical research. Say you're looking for the perfect antigens to cure a dread disease, and they aren't found in Gideonite blood. Bam, he's rolling up his sleeve for you.

• You don't even need Kirk. Just message the Federation that you are conducting medical research and would like a live sample of that virulent meningitis pathogen.

• And the whole plan is crazy, because a pandemic that kills so many people in a short time would devastate the economy.

You forgot reason #4: On a planet where overpopulation is so rampant that people can barely move, building a 1:1 scale Constitution class starship on the ground, and have it completely empty, would have caused the masses to try to break into it simply to have breathing room.

 

[Nerys Myk]

You forgot reason #4: On a planet where overpopulation is so rampant that people can barely move, building a 1:1 scale Constitution class starship on the ground, and have it completely empty, would have caused the masses to try to break into it simply to have breathing room.

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[Farscape One]

Surely "A Piece Of The Action" was the absolute worst ever?

Definitely not. That was a fun episode.

Yes, "The Alternative Factor" was a bad episode. However, for me, the absolute worst episode was "The Mark of Gideon," because it made absolutely no sense whatsoever.

"THE MARK OF GIDEON" is more boring than anything else. I will say the scenes when the Gideonites are looking through the viewscreen IS creepy, so that helps the episode a bit. Still bottom 10 of TOS for me.

 

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

What if Gideon had been overrun by zombies, not just overpopulation?

 

[Dukhat]

What if Gideon had been overrun by zombies, not just overpopulation?

Then they could just vaporize the zombies.

 

[Nerys Myk]

What if Gideon had been overrun by zombies, not just overpopulation?

It would be a different episode.

 

[JonnyQuest037]

Turnabout Intruder, which is honestly totally sexist (it utterly baffles me that Gene Roddenberry wrote it)...

Why? Gene Roddenberry was totally sexist.

 

[jctechwizard]

Why? Gene Roddenberry was totally sexist.

Because the whole crux of the episode (that Kirk's old flame couldn't be starship captain because "women can't be starship captains) is at odds with the Cage (which Roddenberry also wrote) in which a woman was second in command and took command when the captain was off the ship. Gene Roddenberry fought to try to keep the female second officer after the pilot (a fight he ultimately lost unfortunately). For Gene Roddenberry, who's whole concept for the crew was racial and sexual equality to write an episode saying "women can't be ship captains, only men can" makes absolutely no sense. Retroactively, the whole "women can't be starship captains" is contradicted by everything from the USS Saratoga's captain in Star Trek IV, to Captain Kathryn Janeway of the USS Voyager, to Captain Erika Hernandez if the NX-02 Columbia in Star Trek Enterprise.

 

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

But entirely possible that an unstable woman might believe it despite plenty of evidence to the contrary.

 

[JonnyQuest037]

Gene Roddenberry fought to try to keep the female second officer after the pilot (a fight he ultimately lost unfortunately).

No, Roddenberry fought to cast his mistress in the role, and decided it was better to get rid of the character of Number One completely rather break it to Majel Barrett that NBC wanted him to recast the role. NBC didn't object to a female first officer, they objected to Majel Barrett in the part.

For Gene Roddenberry, who's whole concept for the crew was racial and sexual equality to write an episode saying "women can't be ship captains, only men can" makes absolutely no sense.

Did you ever notice that, despite Roddenberry claiming that his original concept for Star Trek was racial and sexual equality among the crew, that the cast of "The Cage" was almost completely white? Or that the only female roles among the crew end up being a part of Pike's ultimate choice of the blonde, the brunette, or the redhead?

Gene Roddenberry wasn't the noble trailblazer that he liked to present himself as, and "Turnabout Intruder" isn't the outlier you think it is.

 

[BillJ]

It isn’t perfect, but I’ve always enjoyed “The Alternative Factor”.

 

[Kor]

Surely "A Piece Of The Action" was the absolute worst ever?

No, it's a rip-roaring good time. It's always been one of my favorites. It embodies the sense of fun that's lacking in much of later Trek.

Since The Alternative Factor is under discussion, I do enjoy that one as well while recognizing the weak points.

Kor

 

[Nerys Myk]

If a bad episode is meme worthy I'll give it a .

"Hail Hail fire and snow..."
"But what of Lazarus?"
"Bonk bonk on the head"

 

[Farscape One]

If a bad episode is meme worthy I'll give it a .

"Hail Hail fire and snow..."
"But what of Lazarus?"
"Bonk bonk on the head"

You forgot another abysmal one.


"Herbert!"

 

[fireproof78]

"Well, I think we can see the delight aspects."

 

[Farscape One]

"Well, I think we can see the delight aspects."

Actually, I do enjoy "SPOCK'S BRAIN".

Is it top tier TOS? Definitely not. More lower tier, but I think closer to middle tier than many say.

 

[fireproof78]

Actually, I do enjoy "SPOCK'S BRAIN".

Is it top tier TOS? Definitely not. More lower tier, but I think closer to middle tier than many say.

I'd say the same about Alternative Factor. Something something glass houses and stone rocks.

 

[Farscape One]

I'd say the same about Alternative Factor. Something something glass houses and stone rocks.

Everyone's got a favorite or ones they like that few others do.

Fun times.

 

[Delta Vega]

There is absolutely no saving graces to "A Piece Of The Action"
It's cringe central from start to finish
It's not fun in the slightest, it's just plain bad

 

[Nerys Myk]

There is absolutely no saving graces to "A Piece Of The Action"
It's cringe central from start to finish
It's not fun in the slightest, it's just plain bad

That's just crazy talk.