Spoilers Possible origin of the Q Continuum?

[Unimatrix Q]

There were always theories around that pretended that the Q were evolved humans from the far future.

But is it possible that they are in fact the future of humanity not in the prime timeline but from the confederation timeline?

Would explain why Q seems to be so involved with what happens in 2024 and maybe why he seems to have no power over Renee Picard...

 

[Timofnine]

There were always theories around that pretended that the Q were evolved humans from the far future.

But is it possible that they are in fact the future of humanity not in the prime timeline but from the confederation timeline?

Would explain why Q seems to be so involved with what happens in 2024 and maybe why he seems to have no power over Renee Picard...

I’ve always thought this since the episode ‘Q and the grey’.

 

[dupersuper]

I hope not. The more removed from humanity their origin the better.

 

[F. King Daniel]

Since they're omnipotent, they can come into being at any point and then spam themselves across the timeline and multiverse immediately.

That said, I can't see this being a Qorigin.

 

[Unimatrix Q]

Since they're omnipotent, they can come into being at any point and then spam themselves across the timeline and multiverse immediately.

That said, I can't see this being a Qorigin.

That's exactly the point. Spawning from the self obsessed confederation humanity could also probably explain Q's obsession with Jean Luc and the future of the humans in the prime universe as well as using the post atomic horror as the first thing to confront the crew of the Enterprise-D with, in "Encounter at Farpoint"...

 

[flandry84]

And given Q’s character you would wonder just how ‘evolved’ he is.
Methinks perhaps the Q are a race that stumbled upon a way towards omnipotence before they were ready for it.

 

[Romulan_spy]

And given Q’s character you would wonder just how ‘evolved’ he is.

Yeah, that reminds me of the wonderful speech Picard gives to Q in the TNG episode "True Q" where he challenges the very notion that the Q have a superior moral code:

Picard: "I see no evidence of that you are guided by a superior moral code or any code whatsoever. You may be nearly omnipotent. And I don't deny that your parlor tricks are very impressive. But morality? I don't see! I don't acknowledge it, Q! I would put human morality against the Q's any day."

So yeah, I think Picard would probably argue that Q are very powerful but are not "evolved" morally.

Methinks perhaps the Q are a race that stumbled upon a way towards omnipotence before they were ready for it.

That could be. Or maybe the Q lost their morality over time. We know from Voyager's episode "Death Wish" that the Q have existed for eons to the point where they have become bored with existence. So perhaps in reaching near omnipotence and omniscience about the universe, morality lost its importance. They did not see the purpose in trying to be "good" anymore.

 

[Dukhat]

DeLancie’s Q is the only one who interferes with humanity. No other Qs do (other than that one girl’s parents, whom the Q killed for doing so.) So I don’t see them as evolved future humans.

 

[Unimatrix Q]

DeLancie’s Q is the only one who interferes with humanity. No other Qs do (other than that one girl’s parents, whom the Q killed for doing so.) So I don’t see them as evolved future humans.

But it seems that even all the other Q, especially Amanda's parents and Quinn, are at least curious or care about Earth and humanity and don't seem to give a fuck about other species. With the possible exception of the Borg and El Aurians.

 

[Dukhat]

But it seems that even all the other Q, especially Amanda's parents and Quinn, are at least curious or care about Earth and humanity and don't seem to give a fuck about other species.

So? That doesn't mean they are descended from them. Is an entomologist descended from a bug?

 

[Warped1]

Maybe Q's powers are no longer working because if the timeline isn't set straight the Q never exist. Kind of like Marty McFly disappearing out of his future family photo.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

^ But surely the Q have already been in existence for millions or even billions of years?

 

[Warped1]

Wibbly-Wobbly, Timey-Wimey

 

[dupersuper]

DeLancie’s Q is the only one who interferes with humanity. No other Qs do (other than that one girl’s parents, whom the Q killed for doing so.)

That's not really why they were killed.

 

[Dukhat]

That's not really why they were killed.

Why were they killed?

 

[dupersuper]

Why were they killed?

For not being able to keep their promise to forsake their power: it's not revealed what they did or were doing.

 

[Unimatrix Q]

So? That doesn't mean they are descended from them. Is an entomologist descended from a bug?

This entomologist, we talk about here, either already has or is still in the process of turning into a bug after ending up in this special place and time. Seems like he could indeed be a descendant of this particular species

And why is the post atomic horror the first thing he confronts Picard with, considering all the vile acts of cruelty in earlier and even later parts of human history (Turkana 4 for example)? Especially interesting if you are looking at the fact that WW3 and the post atomic horror most likely never happened (at least in the same way) in the confederation timeline...

 

[Dukhat]

And why is the post atomic horror the first thing he confronts Picard with, considering all the vile acts of cruelty in earlier and even later parts of human history (Turkana 4 for example)? Especially interesting if you are looking at the fact that WW3 and the post atomic horror most likely never happened (at least in the same way) in the confederation timeline...

I'm not sure what the point is here that you're making.

 

[Unimatrix Q]

I'm not sure what the point is here that you're making.

If the Q are descendants of confederation humanity, and this special Q is curious about their parallel ancestors and tries to find out with his trial were the differences lie and especially why Prime Picard is so different compared to the other version in the past of his own timeline, the first thing to confront them with would be the chronologically early events where different things had happened and maybe to gloat over the fact that even without all the violence and evil of confederation history, prime humanity has still dark spots in their own past.

 

[Qonundrum]

And given Q’s character you would wonder just how ‘evolved’ he is.
Methinks perhaps the Q are a race that stumbled upon a way towards omnipotence before they were ready for it.

Or most Q are amoral, highly evolved - like the original Time Lords from Doctor Who's 1969 story "The War Games", which also confirmed as a result the Doctor was a rogue... as would be the Meddling Monk (amoral but gets his jollies off of mild history changes), The Master (pure evil), the Rani (amoral scientist who subtly weaves into eras to do experiments but otherwise doesn't cause changes to the timeline, etc... The Q that manifested as a human to give Picard the Aesop fable o'the week being a rogue of a refreshingly different sort. Definitely is a "chaotic good" in more ways than none, though has aspects of "chaotic evil" too. He's just chaos, like Loki but comes across other than a 11th Doctor archetype. Makes for some refreshing storytelling... (it's not the perfect comparison, and Loki rocks, too... )