New Ms. Marvel

[Guy Gardener]

So I'm assuming we are looking 6 years later from when a 10 year old had Ms. Marvel posters all over her bedroom walls. If Carol was still using the name presently, would this noob have adopted it? There are two Hawkeyes, and what's with that kid running around calling himself Powerman right in front of Luke Cage after Luke had to beat the shit out of Goliath to earn it... it's funny how Hank Pym never bothers to stop supervillains from taking his costumed identities. What the hells up with that?

Oh god.

It's a question of necessity.

Being a child with no money (Spider-Man's costume still makes no sense.) Kamala goes through her wardrobe only to find an old halloween costume to use as her super hero costume after the shit hits the fan in the second act.

 

[CaptainCanada]

Which isn't remotely notable now. "Ms." is the standard form of address.

To me this is like saying Bruce Wayne's parent's getting killed is irrelevant to the current iteration of the character.

How? Your parents dying is always (one would hope) going to be an important part of your backstory. Calling yourself "Ms." is not in any way notable today.

 

[Guy Gardener]

The actual change is that in the 40's when they died, the Waynes were millionaires, in the 90s they were billionaires, and it's not going to be soon from now if not yesterday that Thomas and Martha Wayne were trillionaires when they bought the farm.

It's just a question of if "Batman" Squandered the fortune more than Lucius Fox grew the families wealth.

Just something to remember: Alfred was Bruce's Legal Guardian, which means that he might have been in charge of the Wayne Fortune till Bruce turned 18 or 21 depending on how the trust was written.

If the Waynes were only Millionaires when they died in present day, the family business was most likely a chain of laundry mats or something else equally as middle class.

 

[Nerys Myk]

The actual change is that in the 40's when they died, the Waynes were millionaires, in the 90s they were billionaires, and it's not going to be soon from now if not yesterday that Thomas and Martha Wayne were trillionaires when they bought the farm.

It's just a question of if "Batman" Squandered the fortune more than Lucius Fox grew the families wealth.

Just something to remember: Alfred was Bruce's Legal Guardian, which means that he might have been in charge of the Wayne Fortune till Bruce turned 18 or 21 depending on how the trust was written.

If the Waynes were only Millionaires when they died in present day, the family business was most likely a chain of laundry mats or something else equally as middle class.

Uncle Philip ran things.

 

[Gov Kodos]

The actual change is that in the 40's when they died, the Waynes were millionaires, in the 90s they were billionaires, and it's not going to be soon from now if not yesterday that Thomas and Martha Wayne were trillionaires when they bought the farm.

It's just a question of if "Batman" Squandered the fortune more than Lucius Fox grew the families wealth.

Just something to remember: Alfred was Bruce's Legal Guardian, which means that he might have been in charge of the Wayne Fortune till Bruce turned 18 or 21 depending on how the trust was written.

If the Waynes were only Millionaires when they died in present day, the family business was most likely a chain of laundry mats or something else equally as middle class.

Uncle Philip ran things.

Or Batsy finds out his folks laundromats were a front for the mob.

 

[Guy Gardener]

So did that make Kathy his sister?

http://www.comicvine.com/philip-kane/4005-88025/

Martha Kane?

I really should read some Batwoman.

 

[Professor Zoom]

There is nothing "groundbreaking" about a Muslim character.

That's true. Come on, just consider HOW MANY Muslim Characters there are in main stream comics. They are represented ALL over the place. We already have that one Green Lantern in DC...

 

[Nerys Myk]

So did that make Kathy his sister?

http://www.comicvine.com/philip-kane/4005-88025/

Martha Kane?

I really should read some Batwoman.

I am unsure of if/how Martha's family is related the Kanes in Batwoman.

 

[Hound of UIster]

^They are. There was a picture of the twins in Philip's office in Year Zero.

That's true. Come on, just consider HOW MANY Muslim Characters there are in main stream comics. They are represented ALL over the place. We already have that one Green Lantern in DC...

There is also Nightrunner who was part of Batman Inc. He was certainly better than Green Lantern imo.

 

[Nerys Myk]

So Bruce and Kate are cousins of some sort?

 

[Guy Gardener]

http://marvel.wikia.com/Category:Muslim_Characters

Not a lot, forgot about Monet.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

I've been planning to go to the comic book store tomorrow, so I'm glad I looked at this thread before going. I think I'm going to check this series out. It sounds intriguing.

 

[Turtletrekker]

^Won't be out for a couple months.

 

[Guy Gardener]

http://www.previewsworld.com/Home/1/1/71/977?articleID=141308

Issue #1 comes out in February 2014.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

^Won't be out for a couple months.

Ah, thanks. I can still put it on subscription. My store will reserve issues, even in advance like this; that way, I won't miss it.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Just had a really obvious thought about Terrigenesis.

Inhumanity is an inherited trait.

kamala's mum, dad or both are Inhumans too.

If neither of her parents are inhumans then, one or both of her parents are not her parents.

That leads to four possibilities...

1. Switched at birth. (Human error.)

2. Adoption/sperm donating/surrogacy. (Mum and Dad are part of the plan)

3. Mum had an affair. (Dirty mum!)

4 Golden Child Messiah sent off from a royal castle somewhere after life threatening circumstances (Snow white already! What if Bail Organna wanted a son?) to live in the relative safety of New Jersey. (mum and dad are trained assassins or palace guards.. The Powers of Matthew Starr?).

 

[A beaker full of death]

Feminist title "Ms"? Dude.

ummm.... yes? Do you have any idea what that term was all about?

Pretty much. It was revolutionary. In the 50s. How about you join us in the new century?

The '50s, huh? Your ignorance is worse than stunning. It's terrifying. If you're going to shit all over the very basis of the character, at least know what you're shitting on. There was a world before you were born, and you should learn why things are the way they are if you are to have an informed opinion. However, as you prefer to have uninformed opinions, I shall leave you to them.

 

[Nerys Myk]

ummm.... yes? Do you have any idea what that term was all about?

Pretty much. It was revolutionary. In the 50s. How about you join us in the new century?

The '50s, huh? Your ignorance is worse than stunning. It's terrifying. If you're going to shit all over the very basis of the character, at least know what you're shitting on. There was a world before you were born, and you should learn why things are the way they are if you are to have an informed opinion. However, as you prefer to have uninformed opinions, I shall leave you to them.

And how much do you know about Muslim-American women in 21st Century America? Or the people and intent behind the new Ms Marvel character?

BTW

The term was again suggested as a convenience to writers of business letters by such publications as the Bulletin of the American Business Writing Association (1951) and The Simplified Letter, issued by the National Office Management Association (1952).[9]
In 1961, Sheila Michaels attempted to put the term into use when she saw what she thought was a typographical error on the address label of a copy of News & Letters sent to her roommate.[10][11] Michaels "was looking for a title for a woman who did not 'belong' to a man."[12] She knew the separation of the now common terms Miss and Mrs. had derived from "Mistress", but one could not suggest that women use the original title with its now louche connotations. Her efforts to promote use of a new honorific were at first ignored.[13] Around 1971, in a lull during a WBAI-radio interview with The Feminists group, Michaels suggested the use of Ms. A friend of Gloria Steinem heard the interview and suggested it as a title for her new magazine. Ms. magazine's popularity finally allowed the term to enjoy widespread usage.[14] In February 1972, the US Government Printing Office approved using "Ms." in official government documents.[15]

 

[Guy Gardener]

Baiting people to attack you Beaker just so you can smack'em around?

You're like Jack Palance telling that farmer to pick up his gun in Shane.

 

[Professor Zoom]

ummm.... yes? Do you have any idea what that term was all about?

Pretty much. It was revolutionary. In the 50s. How about you join us in the new century?

The '50s, huh? Your ignorance is worse than stunning. It's terrifying. If you're going to shit all over the very basis of the character, at least know what you're shitting on. There was a world before you were born, and you should learn why things are the way they are if you are to have an informed opinion. However, as you prefer to have uninformed opinions, I shall leave you to them.

lol.