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Nerds and the movie industry

Qonundrum

Just graduated from Camp Ridiculous
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Either nerds are destroying it
http://www.standbyformindcontrol.com/2013/05/are-nerds-destroying-the-movie-industry/

I grew up in the ‘80s. Back then, nerds were not cool. They were nerds. If you read comic books, you were not cool. If you could explain at length, and did explain at length, whether or not anyone asked you to, why Star Trek II was the best Star Trek movie ever, you were not cool. If you knew who Rick Baker was, and why he mattered, you were not cool. If you loved weird science fiction and horror movies, you were not cool. Nerds were nerds. The ignored. The hated. The underdogs. Movies like Meatballs and Revenge of The Nerds worked because that’s who you root for in movies: the underdogs.

Nerds are not the underdogs anymore.

All those ‘80s kids have grown up. For the past decade, they have been rising higher and higher in the movie world. And now? Now they run it. They make the movies, they review the movies, they decide what’s good, they decide what gets made. And what gets made? Nerd movies. Nerds have gone mainstream, and their movies are killing the industry.

Article has more but a lot of people who were called a nerd back then are more often taken aback by the sophistry-laden sappy maudlin soap opera wearing the thinnest veneer of sci-fi trademarks.

And based on viewing figures, since when do nerds give a crap about how many like something just for the sake of liking it?

After all, pictrures tell a thousand words:


nerds


not nerds

Spot on, that...

Especially when the original Tron didn't have the plot problems its sequel had. Those who didn't recognize it are probably not nerds. If it has to be spelled out, the original Tron was cognizant of CPU clock cycles being faster than how humans act in real time. The sequel is blissfully overlooking that. Any nerd will know that just as much as an infant knows it has soft mushy bits going in and out and will cry if those bits stop moving because, you know, breathing is cool. Maybe a nerd helped write the original, there's plenty in it to enjoy for nerds and non-nerds and just about anybody...

I know. Weird movies are out there, creeping around the margins, same is it ever was. Thank heavens. It’s just a shame that the one-time weirdos from the ‘80s have forgotten their weirdo roots and have instead used their new-found powers to merely intensify the size, scope, and reach of the mega-blockbusters begun in their youth. Look upon thy works, ye nerdy, and despair…

Um, that pretty much spells it out point blank that these alleged nerds either stopped being nerds, or never were to begin with. QED. BFD.





Or they're alleged to run it and I'll explain why that's bunkum in a moment:
https://gen.medium.com/the-decade-comic-book-nerds-became-our-cultural-overlords-f219b732a660

Excerpt:

Eight years after Avengers, the nerd-cultural takeover of pop culture is complete.

Really, John Steed and Cathy Gale had that much of an impression on folks? Really? :guffaw::guffaw::guffaw::guffaw::guffaw::guffaw:

And fer chrissakes, not as remake fodder to prey on our nostalgia! Spare us your RoboCop, Evil Dead, and Clash of The Titans remakes!

Other way around, actually. Most nerds have been bleating against this...

Why not encourage new talent to make weird new movies? Ya know, nerdy movies?

Wait, new movies instead of remakes or reboots? *gasp* That's an incredibly original idea! If not screamed by numerous people for over a decade now... so that already is one reason nerds aren't running the industry that doesn't involve learning the wheel again...


A lot of nerds - apart from not taking old properties and "dumbing down" them for mass consumption and using nostagia as stated above - tend to be oblivious or unaware of mainstream neurotypical audiences* and often want to see or create a vestige of scientific accuracy or more complex concepts, or look for plot nuances or problems, which is why sci-fi and fantasy are often deemed mutually exclusive... though some nerds like fantasy and they'll sit there and fathom how a light saber might work whereas fantasy in of itself doesn't care how it works. There's a entirely different set of rules, though as most franchises are combination of the two - all while taking care not to bend the rules excessively, or at least finding something of interest to compensate. That's why it becomes interesting when a ship is hiding inside a sun or black hole and figuring out the laws of physics needed to keep the ship from burning up, blowing up, or being torn apart by gravity (having a FTL engine can also help since nothing else could begin to withstand the forces of a black hole...) But there were far more actual nerds writing for TOS and TNG, Doctor Who, and even 1979 Buck Rogers have more than many sci-fi/fantasy shows and movies circa 2000-present... though the scraps nerds have gotten have been pretty great indeed...

* assuming nerds are all not neurotypicals to begin with, that's a separate issue altogether and many probably are
 
Yes, we're living in midst of the golden age of nerdism. It's not even nerdism anymore, I don't think. It simply is current pop culture. It wouldn't surprise me if many kids born in the early 00's didn't exactly know what nerds even are.

But the reliance on sequel movies and TV shows, and repeating story ideas, has nothing to do with nerdism. The people making those decisions aren't much different from the ones who made the decision to make movies about heroes who knew how to fight, drink hard, and always got the girl 60 years ago. That's why there were so many movies about war, cops, and cowboys, in the 50's and 60's. This was pop culture back then.

Nerdism is the current equivalent of the old western, war, cop, movies. They sell. So do sequels and dumbing down certain stories for mass audiences. The pendulum will likely swing back into the other direction someday and nerds will once again be forced into the underground, so we should enjoy what we have while we can.
 
I remember being called a Star Trek fan was not a complement. Things are certainly different.

I was enjoying that paragraph you quoted until the "and their movies are killing the industry." The only reason there is an industry still is because of those movies. I'd like to see if you take all the MCU, Star Wars, and other "nerd" movies revenues away from all of the rest and see how well "the industry" is doing.
 
While many of the artist might be nerds I am not sure some of companies that make the stuff is ran by nerds. I think they see brand names and not just old stuff they use to like when they were kids. Also it is easier to make reboots of genre stuff than say doing Terms of Endearment part 2 or a Dr Strangelove reboot.


Jason
 
If nerds were truly in control we’d be getting weirder movies that make less money.

It’s not the people in charge of movies who are creatively in control, it’s the focus groups.
 
What we have in popular media today is a version of geek culture that has been filtered for mass appeal.

Kor
 
I don't think nerds are actually running things these days, the people who are running things have just found a way to make nerdy things mainstream.
 
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