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My take on Voyager

I know the beginning sounds like BSG with the Senior staff mostly being wiped out and the crews at each others' throats, and a them being cut off from the Federation and being hunted. But instead of all the Feds and Maquis trying to kill each other the leadership (Chakotay and Janeway) would understand and cooperate with each other, and they'd make it out of the Periphery without having had to mutiny or anything.

I think that sounds like Trek, not giving into barbaric violence but persevering and emerging strong for it.
 
I know the beginning sounds like BSG with the Senior staff mostly being wiped out and the crews at each others' throats, and a them being cut off from the Federation and being hunted. But instead of all the Feds and Maquis trying to kill each other the leadership (Chakotay and Janeway) would understand and cooperate with each other, and they'd make it out of the Periphery without having had to mutiny or anything.

I think that sounds like Trek, not giving into barbaric violence but persevering and emerging strong for it.

like I said, it's a realy good story, but it doesn't realy sound like trek
 
I forgot about this for a while until I decided to see if it was still being continued. One of my problems with Voyager is that Berman and Braga along with Jeri Taylor (while she was still there) was that they decided to drop their original intention with the series (go read the series bible and you'll find out what I mean). I always thought that there should've been more strife and distrust amongst the Starfleet and Maquis crewmember, yes while they have a shared goal to return home they still have the philosphical differences between them that resulted in them being in the situation they were in the first place. That was pushed aside in favour of telling "Classic" Trek stories or rehashing old stories...
 
That was really UPN that made them drop that, not B&B. Braga wasn't even a Producer then, just a writer.
 
I haven't had a chance to read the full thread yet. But while I don't share all of your ideas, Anwar, I think a lot of them are interesting. :)
 
So the Voth City-Ship has de-cloaked (their cloak is much more powerful and totally inviisble to all of VOY's scans) and in exchange for VOY coming with them they won't open fire on the Conclave HQ and all the representatives housed in it.

VOY is then swallowed up inside the massive vessel and taken somewhere while the crew are given restricted access to the ship. They notice that much of the design seems similar to League technology even though the Voth have not been seen for 2,000 years.

A Voth scientist (his name was Quarren, right?) who states he is an anthropologist greets the crew. He's been wanting to study the Federation people for some time now but it took the growing situation with the Borg and the return of the Fluidics to convince his people to finally do so.

He decides to answer some questions in return for their cooperation, but this is mere courtesy since the Voth could just take over the ship, strip it of all knowledge they seek and tear whatever personal information is needed from their minds.

He explains that this one massive vessel is all that's left of the Voth people and that a side-effect of the usage of bioweaponry in the Fluidic Wars left it hard for them to reproduce, some side effect near-sterilizing their DNA. But since they all live for so long they didn't die off long ago. Their elders are contemporaries of the First Fluidic Wars.

As for why they only took a direct interest now when they showed no interest in galactic affairs before? They DID have an interest: The Voth shows them a timeline of the League's existence and VOY notices that times of expansion are around the same time the Voth claim they would show up to observe how the Deep-Beta region was recovering from the Fluidics. The Voth in fact created the League from nothing by periodically advancing their technology and giving advice/motivation to the League leaders so they could act as the Voth's proxy/front while they remained safe on their City-Ship.

But now with things reaching a critical point they feel they must take a more direct hand in this second Fluidic Invasion.

They appear at the League capital world where they are informed that the League succeeded in capturing and holding a Fluidic separated from its people and its craft without it committing suicide. It's now at a lab and they want to test out VOY's nano-weapons on it to see if they themselves can improve on them.

The lab as it turns out is very low-tech in most regards, to keep the Fluidic from being able to escape if it did break out of the containment area (one of the only advanced parts).

When VOY does get there they get no response from the Lab. After being told this is part of procedure to keep the lab a secret Janeway decides to go down there herself with the nanoweapon data because she doesn't want to risk anyone else's life. But to insure that she will keep her end of the bargain the entire bridge crew are sent down there by the Voth so she will have to worry about others' lives.

The Fluidic has escaped and it killed the guards and trashed the most advanced parts of the lab. All that's left are the run-down parts of the place (it used to be a refinery).

The surviving scientists and the crew come up with a plan to fight back: The Fluidics' mental powers have been dampened by drugs it was exposed to on arrival but it still has awesome physical strength so they have to find a way of trapping it again. There are parts of the old Refinery that can be sealed off so it can't get out (the doors are too thick for physical strength to break) and they plan to try and use their weapons to ignite refinery gas and cause a big enough blast it will physically blow the Fluidic creature towards the part of the tunnel system where it can be trapped.

The get to work setting it all up when the Fluidic attacks them prematurely, and one guy fires his phaser while being assaulted which sets off the blast. It forces everyone including the Fluidic to the end area where the door can be sealed, but the Fluidic still isn't inside the area yet.

Tom, seeing they have a chance now (and he'd have been rather depressed for a while since everyone he became close to has died or left him like Harry B'Ellana and Seven) runs into the chamber and gets the Fluidic to follow him. This sets off the motion device that triggers the door close while its' killing Tom. It's trapped but Tom is dead.

After the League sends in another battalion of troopers and engineers to get the place fixed up, the Voth demand that VOY use their nanotech weapons in experiments on the Fluidic. Kes then tells everyone to stop and realizes she can communicate with the Fluidic, it's still weakened mentally but can now communicate. It's weary of fighting and killing and saw enough inside Paris' mind to know when it's beat.

It agrees to communication and when everyone demands what the Fluidics' intentions are and why they have been so hostile for 2000 years it responds that its people are prisoners in this dimension and have been since they were pulled here 2000 years ago by the Controller who refused to let them leave until they had destroyed everything in the Galaxy because the inhabitants wanted a challenge. All attempts at communicating before failed and war broke out due to these failures to communicate, leading everyone to where they are now.

When Kes asks about the Controller, what she sees is too much for her mind to comprehend but she realizes it is very familiar.

Correlating all their data on powerful beings in the Deep-Beta Quadrant that had been around for the last 2000 years a list is done up when Kes realizes what she saw in her mind and cross-references it with the data.

She brings up how the Caretaker and his mate arrived here 2000 years ago and how while the Caretaker remained to care for the Ocampa his mate left for other pursuits. Now they know what happened to her and what that pursuit was.

The "Controller" is the female Caretaker, and everyone that had happened in the last 2000 years has all been her grand experiment.
 
Okay, I got a problem. I have the basic outline for the grand finale thought out to an extent, and the ending bit as well. But I think it needs more...

Basically Voyager heads to the Ocampan homeworld at Kes' request while the majority of the Conclave and League Star Forces assemble to defend against a new assault by the Fluidics who are gathering in such a great number it seems like the old Fluidic War is about to restart.

Kes uses her mental abilities to link with the rest of her kind and together they "mindscan" the space near their world where the Array was and pick up on the leftover traces of the Caretaker. With the mental "scent" of a Caretaker they are now able to search out for the female one and find her. Turns out she wasn't very far from where the series has been taking place and has been observing everything. She arrives in her little girl form and announces that due to VOY's entrance to the Greater Beta Quadrant her experiment has been contaminated and she's a little upset over 2000+ years of hard work going down the drain. But she's a scientist and still has many years left to her so she can start again: She's the one causing the greater buildup of the Fluidics, to create such a massive battle that both the Conclave and the League will be virtually destroyed while at the same time they unleash the nanoprobe weaponry on the Fluidics. This will wipe out 99% of all the factions and she can wait to see how it will all go out again over the next 2000 years.

Now, I don't know how but eventually they will triumph over her and kill her. Perhaps the Fluidics will turn on her and all the forces will battle her including the Voth.

The finale will have the Fluidics finally able to create a rift back to their home dimension now that the Female Caretaker is dead, while the Federation is able to harvest enough of the Slipstream fuel they need to begin actively trading/interacting with the Greater Beta Quadrant. With the Fluidic threat finally ended for now (they were so sick of our universe they just upped and left with little intention to return) the League is cutting back on the military and diverting more resources to diplomatic departments.

Thus, the 2000+ of harshness and hostility has finally come to an end for the Greater Beta Quadrant and for the first time in millennia there is a chance at true peace. Will there one day be a new war that will draw in the Conclave, the League and the Federation, will a threat greater than the Fluidics ever emerge? Who knows what the future brings?

But for now, the pain and hostility of the past can be outshone by the bright promise of a better tomorrow.

Star Trek Voyager - The End.
 
Wow, Anwar, this is awesome. There are a few things I would change here or there but overall this has turned into a really great redo of Voyager. It has a better sense of grandeur to it, methinks. It seems like only yesterday you had posted your first thoughts on this.
 
You do have a lot of interesting ideas but like some of the others I think it might work better as an original novel or series of novels rather than a Voyager rewrite.

That being said I am going to poke one hole concerning the Vidiians. The Economy of any given world is dependent on people working, spending, and recycling a currency system. The Vidiians had been fighting the phage for 2000 years, so their economy had to be dependent on services needed to fight the disease and the services needed to combat the disease, once you cure them (and according to "Think Tank" they were cured) you have to cope with a population of people out of work.

I personally think that their whole economy collapsed at that point and that they couldn't have been any great power anywhere for a good long time. Could they make a come back - well possibly but just not right away? This is because unlike Cardassia devastated by the Founders, their infrastructure would be intact and instead of losing over a tenth of their population, the Vidiians would actually gain population.

I'd give the novel idea a try if I were you.

Brit
 
After reading the whole thread, I'd have to say the story ideas are about as Star Trek as it can get. Strange new worlds, discovering life and new civilizations, and the dangers that come with such encounters. There's a lot of violence here, but it ultimately leads to peace and, when combined with DS9's storyline, that means half the galaxy has made great strides in peaceful coexistence because of the Federation.
 
Amwar has at least one point wrong, and I'm surprised that no one called him/her on it. Voyager was an Intrepid Class Star-Ship, not an Ambassador Class. I will admit that I did not read the entire post, so I'm not sure what other points Amwar had, at least on the class of Ship he was wrong...
 
Amwar has at least one point wrong, and I'm surprised that no one called him/her on it. Voyager was an Intrepid Class Star-Ship, not an Ambassador Class. I will admit that I did not read the entire post, so I'm not sure what other points Amwar had, at least on the class of Ship he was wrong...

Anwar did that on purpose as part of his reimagining, as I recall to make the ship a little bigger and a little older.

Personally, I like the idea but would prefer a slightly smaller, new but older-look design (circa 2340s) that could be linked with one of the previously established but unseen older class names (Hokule'a or Renaissance perhaps.) That way the ship would be new to us, even if it wasn't new in the Trekverse. Also, I think the Ambassador is a little too big. Something Constitution-size would be nice.
 
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