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Spoilers Mariner's Background

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Been doing some thinking, particularly based on some details revealed in the latest episode, and I think I've put together a rough idea of Mariner's background A lot of this is based on presumptions and theories, and could very well be proven wrong in future episodes.

First, I'm assuming she was born in 2351, which makes her 30 as of season 2. I know there's a reference in season 1 where Boimler (who was 23 at the time) says "we're the same age." Rather than take that literally, I'm going to take it to mean they're both in their twenties, since assuming Mariner were born in 2351 she'd be 29 in season 1, set in 2380.

Now I'm going to incorporate the popular fan theory that she spent her childhood on board the Enterprise D, as she does seem to know a lot of specific details about that ship. She would have been 13 in 2364, TNG's first season. That means that she would have turned 18 in 2369, TNG's 6th season, meaning she'd have been aboard the Enterprise D for a good percentage of TNG's run so far. This could also have been when she left to enter Starfleet Academy, at which point she would have graduated in 2372, DS9's fourth season.

Now we know Mariner's been on five ships during her Starfleet career, presumably including the Cerritos. And we know know one of her prior assignments was on DS9 while Worf was there, which conveniently it was during the fourth season when he joined that show. So we can assume DS9 could have been Mariner's first assignment after graduating, and maybe she stayed there until the end of 2373 when the Dominion War started and DS9 was abandoned. After that, over the course of the Dominion War rapid transfers would have been a thing, meaning Mariner could easily have ended up on two other ships before she ended up on the Quito, which we know she was on as recently as a year prior to season 1, given she was still on the Quito when they made first contact with the aliens from the premiere episode. At some point after that first contact mission, she got transferred to the Cerritos.

Thoughts?
 
I think her being posted at Deep Space Nine makes a lot of sense, when you consider her knowledge. I don't think she would also have to be stationed on the Enterprise, though.

Not directed at you, but I think it's weird that so many people get hung up on the “we're the same age” line. People aren't that literal in their everyday conversations, so why should they be on the show? I'm in my late thirties and I would absolutely say some of my colleagues are “the same age”, even though they are in their early thirties, early forties or even late twenties. It's less about the exact number of years, but if you consider someone to be at a similar point in their life or development.
 
Now I'm going to incorporate the popular fan theory that she spent her childhood on board the Enterprise D, as she does seem to know a lot of specific details about that ship. She would have been 13 in 2364, TNG's first season. That means that she would have turned 18 in 2369, TNG's 6th season, meaning she'd have been aboard the Enterprise D for a good percentage of TNG's run so far.
Is this when we begin to scan images of background extras and play spot "Mariner"? ;)
 
Not directed at you, but I think it's weird that so many people get hung up on the “we're the same age” line. People aren't that literal in their everyday conversations,
Yeah, the strict literalism expected in Star Trek terminology is very odd. Like, if I say my kid is "5 and a half" I don't literally mean 5 years, 6 months. It could mean anywhere between 5 to 11 months. People are not that precise in language. Star Trek is not going to be any different.
 
Here's an excerpt from Mike McMahan's TNG Season 8 book:

Soon enough, there’s another transporter error—this time a pair of cadets (usually stationed on the Enterprise’s lowest deck) are joined at the cellular level with a trash can. As Worf rolls them into sickbay, one of them, Cadet Beckett, admits that their plight is no random accident. They were “buffering.” Worf narrows his eyes, shooting d’k tahgs at her. Beckett explains that buffering is popular among the lower ranks—it’s a recreational transporter program, one that causes a euphoric high by initiating micro-transport hops that force small mistakes in the pattern buffer. These errors get translated into microscopic inconsistencies in brain chemistry, resulting in a high
 
I can't help myself.

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Bangs. Ponytail. Totally Mariner.
 
Being on DS9 is one thing, but the Enterprise-D?

I mean, if it's in Warped I guess that makes it unofficial Word of God? Introducing intentional mistakes in transports for a high is... insane. I love it:lol:
 
Here's an excerpt from Mike McMahan's TNG Season 8 book:
Both characters are named after Mike's sister. They're not intended to be the same character.

Note how the character in the Season 8 referred to as "Cadet Beckett", meaning that's their last name, not first name.

How did nobody point that out until now?

It was pointed out during Season 1. Just no one talked about it.
 
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Mariner could have been assigned to Deep Space Nine as late as 2375. In fact, the Defiant could be one of her previous ships. Perhaps both Defiants.
 
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