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How do you rate Lux?


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It would be brilliant if the lack of news about the show being renewed is intentional because in the reality of the show, Earth no longer exists after May 24th. Then once the Doctor saves the day in the finale they announce that it's been renewed because Earth has a future now.

It would be a very impressive piece of marketing if that is their plan.
 
So the three fans said they're the kind of characters that don't get last names, but interesting in the end credits, their characters do have last names. Another Meta joke because they came back?

For some reason the Tardis wiki doesn't list their last names on their episode page.
 
Man, that was FUN! I really enjoyed this episode. The 4th wall breaking was brilliant. The mom talking about her missing son was very effecting, as was the projectionist talking about his wife. Everything was firing on all cylinders here!
 
Just take Belinda to May 23rd and just chill for a day at a spa or amusement park or some other fun time that does not involve crossing her timeline. Can't the TARDIS arrive a day early?

Of course, that takes away the season premise and might result in not preventing the Earth's destruction
 
Just take Belinda to May 23rd and just chill for a day at a spa or amusement park or some other fun time that does not involve crossing her timeline. Can't the TARDIS arrive a day early?

Of course, that takes away the season premise and might result in not preventing the Earth's destruction
So she chills and then steps "into" to 25th?
 
For some reason the Tardis wiki doesn't list their last names on their episode page.
TARDIS Wiki isn't exactly the most prompt site around. They will eventually add their last names, but in their own time.
Just take Belinda to May 23rd and just chill for a day at a spa or amusement park or some other fun time that does not involve crossing her timeline. Can't the TARDIS arrive a day early?
Meh, this isn't the first time we've had this sort of situation. Like when Amy and Rory left, they were stuck in 1930s New York which couldn't be accessed by TARDIS without destroying New York. And when Moffat was asked about alternate methods of retrieval like going to New York several years early and waiting or landing the TARDIS somewhere else in the world and travelling by boat to New York or combining the two, his answer to why this couldn't be done was always "it will still destroy New York."

So May 24th is inaccessible and whatever alternatives might exist are not an option. To use a phrase from the Pitch Meeting videos "so the season can happen."
 
Really enjoyed this weeks episode but was late being able to view it.

Don't know if I have much to say that hasn't been said already.

I enjoyed Doctor Who unleashed too. The real storm blown exterior of the cinema really highlight the good work the digital compositors do.
 
Loads of it worked really well, and I am suspicious that RTD has got Moffat helping him with his homework. He borderline signed this one with the ‘Blink’ discussion.

That's reaching. Anyone who pays any attention to Doctor Who fandom since 2007 know Blink is a really popular episode, it usually tops fan favorite lists for the modern era, especially among fans who began watching with Eccleston or Tennant. RTD acknowledging Blink's popularity is not proof Moffat is "helping him with his homework" or whatever. Indeed, considering the fans seen in this episode are hard on another Moffat episode (Boom from last season) and that we have Belinda being dismissive of Blink's premise, which I don't think either would have happened had Moffat had a hand in that scene. Well, okay, Moffat isn't above a self-deprecating jab, but I still don't think he had anything to do with that scene.
It's actually not as reaching it might seem. It would explain an offhand comment that Scott Handcock made at Gallifrey One in a small group meeting. He said they brought it Moffat to help for the 2nd season. Unfortunately, there was no time to clarify. It's unclear exactly how he is helping. But, now I'm wondering as well . . .
 
TARDIS Wiki isn't exactly the most prompt site around. They will eventually add their last names, but in their own time.

Meh, this isn't the first time we've had this sort of situation. Like when Amy and Rory left, they were stuck in 1930s New York which couldn't be accessed by TARDIS without destroying New York. And when Moffat was asked about alternate methods of retrieval like going to New York several years early and waiting or landing the TARDIS somewhere else in the world and travelling by boat to New York or combining the two, his answer to why this couldn't be done was always "it will still destroy New York."

So May 24th is inaccessible and whatever alternatives might exist are not an option. To use a phrase from the Pitch Meeting videos "so the season can happen."

Presumably the day is inaccessible
because it no longer exists?
 
I enjoyed it as a goofy bit of entertainment. I gave it a 7. A decent bit of fun. Can't really say more than that. Like the previous episode, it seemed to fall apart a bit as the story went along.

Interestingly, the Doctor Who fan also rated it as a 7. That's the first time my rating was consistent with a character's own rating of the episode! :lol:

My reasons were different, it wasn't the giveaway of the solution. Rather, it was so much a piece of goofy fun that it can't go higher than that. A nice way to pass an hour but nothing more.

I had no problem with the ending and drowning in light. And it was the answer to his question about what he never did--go outside in daylight. So, it works for me.

I am loving Ncuti's joy of life that he brings to the Doctor. He travels time and space, and he's the first Doctor who really seems to understand that privilege and opportunity, along with the responsibilities. Belinda was fantastic in this episode as well.
 
There's apparently a theory floating around now that all of the talk about Doctor Who possibly going on hiatus was set up by Russel T. Davies and the show's team as a set up for the meta elements of Lux and whatever might happen later in the season.
https://www.ign.com/articles/doctor-who-planting-leaks-meta-marketing
Man oh man, if that were true, it would be 4D chess. And entirely unprecedented as far as I know.

Unfortunately, I have reason to suspect that it really is ending. I'm not sure if reshoots were added or anything like that. But if there is an intentionality there with that, it's more likely that they're amping of the final episode of the season for it being the final episode for awhile.

But we'll see!
 
It's actually not as reaching it might seem. It would explain an offhand comment that Scott Handcock made at Gallifrey One in a small group meeting. He said they brought it Moffat to help for the 2nd season. Unfortunately, there was no time to clarify. It's unclear exactly how he is helping. But, now I'm wondering as well . . .
Regardless, I don't think acknowledging Blink is one of the most popular episodes is something that proves Moffat helped out on the season, as Blink's popularity is an objective fact. And I say that as someone who considers the episode to be somewhat overrated. That is to say it is a good episode and I do enjoy it, but it was not The Best Doctor Who EVER!!!111!!!oneone Hell, Blink wasn't even the best episode of the third season.
 
Regardless, I don't think acknowledging Blink is one of the most popular episodes is something that proves Moffat helped out on the season, as Blink's popularity is an objective fact. And I say that as someone who considers the episode to be somewhat overrated. That is to say it is a good episode and I do enjoy it, but it was not The Best Doctor Who EVER!!!111!!!oneone Hell, Blink wasn't even the best episode of the third season.
You're right. It doesn't do that at all. But I wouldn't be surprised if Moffat's hand is in this season somewhere, somehow.

Even if it is true that Moffat played a role, I doubt he would use his role to include a line that trumps up his own episode like that. If anything, it's RTD ribbing him all in good fun!
 
So the three fans said they're the kind of characters that don't get last names, but interesting in the end credits, their characters do have last names. Another Meta joke because they came back?

For some reason the Tardis wiki doesn't list their last names on their episode page.
Probably took all their episode details from the BBC Lux credits page
which also doesn't give surnames.
Because that was prepared before the episode was actually released?
 
I may be in the minority opinion but I think the "fans" scene while cute, actually brought down the episode a drop.
They said, oh we're the viewers but we're also extras...pick a lane lol.
8/10. Could have been better but, at least it's not SPACE BABIES.

Oh and Alan Cumming? YES PLEASE!
 
I may be in the minority opinion but I think the "fans" scene while cute, actually brought down the episode a drop.
They said, oh we're the viewers but we're also extras...pick a lane lol.
8/10. Could have been better but, at least it's not SPACE BABIES.

Oh and Alan Cumming? YES PLEASE!

The thing that bugged me about the fans thing, was that it was very…. LINDA. Like, after forty plus years I am still yet to have a Baker scarf (got close a few times I admit, but I’m more likely to wear one down the street than to watch TV…) and there’s a sort of level of ephemera to them that makes them look like YouTubers. Presenting a version of themselves that isn’t real is part of that ‘content’ producing world, but this is supposed to be three people sat to watch the show. Which makes its feel faintly… condescending? And as actual WhoYouTubers have said, you’re not gonna get three fans all picking Blink. (Though mostly Moffat episodes were put forward as alternatives…)
Maybe they should have gone whole hog, and rather than the unlikely-for-the-modern-fan Telos and Unit Shows had at least one grumpy old man lamenting it’s not like the old days, and gone even further and grabbed the Adrian Mole/Whizzkid actor for the job.

This is rumoured to be the reshoot, as allegedly it was fans watching in the cinema (rumoured to include the ever joyful Tharries) originally, but that’s maybe a script change.
I’m not sure modern tellies have glass that worked the way the sound effects would have us believe either, but that is not really a nitpick, as something the popped into my head whilst watching the whole Amy’s Choice tribute bit. (Though also Trial of a Timelord and Deadly Assassin in a way, while we build up to Mind Robber stuff.)
 
I’m not sure modern tellies have glass that worked the way the sound effects would have us believe either, but that is not really a nitpick,

Plus can be chalked up to Lux's "terrible continuity", like the cop. He seems to have information from beyond the 1950s time period, as the fans reference "spoilers on the internet", but he's likely jamming shit together like a LLM. ;)
 
Plus can be chalked up to Lux's "terrible continuity", like the cop. He seems to have information from beyond the 1950s time period, as the fans reference "spoilers on the internet", but he's likely jamming shit together like a LLM. ;)

True, true. I just remember it sticking out at the time. After the Doctor basically echoed my initial reaction to the stupid cop scene, albeit for slightly different reasons. (Wish he’d said the women was basically their mate five minutes ago, which was even more unbelievable than an NYPD or any beat cop working out of their area. I’ve seen Die Hard. And Beverley Hills Cop… )
 
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