Lost 6x15: "Across the Sea"

[davejames]

Jacob being stabbed and killed and MiB talking about how he had a crazy mom and his body stolen from him essentially already did that.

Again, a few vague, mysterious references (of which there have been so many on this show it's hard at times to keep track of) is a lot different from seeing it all played out on screen.

Plus you can't always trust what characters on Lost tell us anyway (especially from people like Ben or MiB). Sometimes we need to see the actual events unfold to know for sure.

 

[Ryan8bit]

Again, a few vague, mysterious references (of which there have been so many on this show it's hard at times to keep track of) is a lot different from seeing it all played out on screen.

I know. That's why I said that all they did was elaborate on those things instead of revealing much that was new.

And I don't mind that they did elaborate. I wouldn't mind it if they elaborated on Dharma, Widmore, Hanso, Walt, etc. either because my problem isn't elaboration, it's with what they feel is important not being in sync with how they're presenting things.

Plus you can't always trust what characters on Lost tell us anyway (especially from people like Ben or MiB). Sometimes we need to see the actual events unfold to know for sure.

True. Although in this case they absolutely were not lying.

 

[propita]

And I don't mind that they did elaborate. I wouldn't mind it if they elaborated on Dharma, Widmore, Hanso, Walt, etc. either because my problem isn't elaboration, it's with what they feel is important not being in sync with how they're presenting things.

I have the feeling that what they feel is important is not lining up with what some fans thought was important.

LOST is a great show, especially overall and especially as compared to many others. But there's been a lot of bait and switch as to what matters, so it hasn't been clear all along what really matters.

You know, there is the chance that it could all come out in the end with a "good enough" explanation. Lots of exposition/elaboration to do it, but I'm willing to live with that. It's not like LOST has been action-packed from start to finish. It's had some intense moments (more emotional than physical, I think), but not so many that a heavily expositional finale would be out of place.

 

[Dream]

It's kinda funny how negative the posts are when 72% of us scored it Above Average or Excellent and only 5% gave it a Poor

That's because Trekbbs fans are very pro LOST. If you visit other LOST fansites, you'll notice that reactions to this episode have been very mixed.

On TV.com, nearly all the the episodes of LOST have a rating above 9.0, which tells you how great this show this is. But Across the Sea currently has the lowest episode rating of season six at 8.5. That's worse than What Kate Does.

http://www.tv.com/lost/show/24313/episode.html

 

[McCoy]

It might not take that much exposition to give us a good amount of closure in 3.5 hours. We're a smart audience. An explanation just a few minutes long could give us enough material to answer tons of questions if we just take it and do what we do best: overanalyze.

 

[Hunter X]

It's kinda funny how negative the posts are when 72% of us scored it Above Average or Excellent and only 5% gave it a Poor

That's because Trekbbs fans are very pro LOST. If you visit other LOST fansites, you'll notice that reactions to this episode have been very mixed.

On TV.com, nearly all the the episodes of LOST have a rating above 9.0, which tells you how great this show this is. But Across the Sea currently has the lowest episode rating of season six at 8.5. That's worse than What Kate Does.

http://www.tv.com/lost/show/24313/episode.html

I don't even interpret it as "pro-Lost." I think, for the most part, people here are level headed and are adopting a wait and see attitude. There are only three and a half hours left. Even if the show is ruined for you by the end, it's not that big an investment to make it there.

I mean, we all made it through Fire + Water, Stranger in a Strange Land, not being told what was in the hatch until season two after having it built up all through season one, and Nikki and Paulo. I'm sure we can make it through a couple more hours.

The histrionics and narcissism on display on other message boards, two things that I associated with TWoP especially way before this past episode of Lost, are just silly.

I didn't particularly think Across the Sea was amazing or mind blowing. I think it's the mother of all setup episodes (the Crazy Mother of all setup episodes, if you like). There have been better setup episodes, sure, but it's really hard to freak out over it without seeing what, exactly, it's setting up. What I mean by that is how does the light, the heart of the Island, the revelations about Jacob and his brother's motivations, and so on affect our characters as they go into the end game?

 

[Gertch]

It's kinda funny how negative the posts are when 72% of us scored it Above Average or Excellent and only 5% gave it a Poor

That's because Trekbbs fans are very pro LOST. If you visit other LOST fansites, you'll notice that reactions to this episode have been very mixed.

"Pro-LOST"? People that hate LOST still watch the show?

I've thoroughly enjoyed the journey. So much so that if the writers come out and say we were winging the show the whole time I'll give them even higher marks.

There is no way this show's ending can stand up to 6 years of hype, NO WAY. Enjoy the journey. If the finale is in the TNG/B5 range I'll be estatic. Otherwise I'll be glad I went on this walkabout.

 

[Alidar Jarok]

Honestly, I found the episode to be very paint by the numbers, but it revealed quite a lot while being so. The biggest thing, the life force and energy of the island, which can heal people, allows the dead to hang around, and, I guess, turn someone into a soulless smoke monster, seemed a bit ill-defined. In the end, I felt it deserved an above average because it adds a lot to the show (an episode like this needed to be done) and it did so without being too exposition heavy, but it didn't wow me like the Richard episode did. I felt that was reasonable and I do think some people might be a bit harsh (I'm not sure what they were expecting).

 

[McCoy]

Richard's episode didn't wow me. I'd put that one and this one on even footing. Both were about 45 min. of standard and 15 min. of cool.

 

[Hober Mallow]

Richard's episode didn't wow me. I'd put that one and this one on even footing. Both were about 45 min. of standard and 15 min. of cool.

I think I'm with you, actually. I've been enjoying this season, but the Richard episode (which everyone seems to think was the shit) was just kinda "meh" for me, and this last episode (which a lot of people have been grumbling about) was also just kinda "meh." I'd say the only episode that I really liked enough that I can't wait to see it again was "Dr Linus."

 

[Alidar Jarok]

I found Richard's episode to be pretty emotional. The revelations weren't the key there, it was Nestor Carbonell's acting that was key.

 

[McCoy]

Richard's episode didn't wow me. I'd put that one and this one on even footing. Both were about 45 min. of standard and 15 min. of cool.

I think I'm with you, actually. I've been enjoying this season, but the Richard episode (which everyone seems to think was the shit) was just kinda "meh" for me, and this last episode (which a lot of people have been grumbling about) was also just kinda "meh." I'd say the only episode that I really liked enough that I can't wait to see it again was "Dr Linus."

Yeah I watched "Dr. Linus" three times, it was the best so far this season:
1. CTV broadcast at 7pm
2. ABC broadcast at 9pm, same night
3. SpaceChannel broadcast a few days later

 

[DevilEyes]

Richard's episode didn't wow me. I'd put that one and this one on even footing. Both were about 45 min. of standard and 15 min. of cool.

How did they manage to be that, when they're about 40-45 minutes long?

 

[McCoy]

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[Ryan8bit]

People that hate LOST still watch the show?

I work with a guy who said that he doesn't even like the show anymore, but he watches just because he wants to find out the answers to the mysteries.

 

[Capn Flukie]

Give in the the Lostside.

 

[Zulu Romeo]

Thinking about the episode again, I couldn't help but realise this little quirk of character:

Clearly there's hope for all of us.

 

[Agent Richard07]

^ You know, I was actually wondering if he ever got it on with someone who was stranded on the island.

 

[Jenee]

Thinking about the episode again, I couldn't help but realise this little quirk of character:

Clearly there's hope for all of us.

I love it.

 

[Hober Mallow]

^ You know, I was actually wondering if he ever got it on with someone who was stranded on the island.

Ilana? "He was like a sugardaddy to me."