It's never stated in the films that Arwen was an only child. And, again, that doesn't matter, because none of Elrond and Celebrían's children figure into the story this show will be covering.
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Tolkien's elves are immortal yet seem to have relatively few children. Do they have very effective herbal prophylactics, are they diligent practitioners of abstinence, are they relatively infertile, or does Eru Ilúvatar interfere for some mysterious reason?
It's not stated that Film!Arwen is an only child, but it's nonetheless obvious based on Film!Elrond's characterization and behavior, particularly in The Return of the King.
Also, although The Rings of Power is set long before Arwen's birth, there still needs to be sequential continuity observed in order for it to fit in with The Hobbit and LotR Trilogies, and that means not introducing new elements of character history that weren't part of the aforementioned Trilogies, such as any explicit familial connections - through marriage or otherwise - between Elrond and Galadriel.
I seem to recall that Arwen's brothers are in the film series, just never named. Only pointed out in a commentary or something like that, partly because whatever scene they originally wanted them in was either cut, or reframed so that they were not really needed in the script to be named.
I wouldn't be surprised of this current production uses a similar aesthetic to Weta's work.
I wouldn't be surprised of this current production uses a similar aesthetic to Weta's work.
Aragorn had three children (1 boy and 2 girls) with Arwen and he lived another 120+ years after becoming King. Their first child a boy was born 1 year after Aragorn became King so his seed was strong :P
So there certainly is something at play when it comes to elves and their ability to reproduce. Elrond and his twin brother Elros were born half-elves with Elrond choosing to become an Elf and Elros choosing to the man side. Elros had 4 children while living to around 400+ years. Elrond had 3 children while being over 6,500 years old when he sailed to the West.
According to Tolkien, Elves are very choosy when having children, usually deciding to have them during periods of peace and lack of conflict to ensure stability for the child to be raised. This appears to be a part of their nature
"Where there's a whip, there's a way!
Where there's a whip, there's a way!
We don't want to go to war today!
But the lord of the land says, 'Hey, hey hey!'
We're gonna march all day, all day, all day!
Where there's a whip, there's a way!"
I unironically love the Rankin-Bass Return of the King.
Personally, I don't care if Elrohir and Elladan ended up on the cutting-room floor. They're obviously like Eric and Don Jr. to Elrond.
Just because we never heard them talk about Elrond's sons or his relationship to Galadriel doesn't mean they can't possibly be a part of the movie's world. There is absolutely nothing in the movies that prevents any of this.
I don't remember there being anything that he says or does that proves Arwen is an only child, her brothers could have easily just been offscreen whenever we saw her or Elrond.
His only daughter-it makes perfect sense. Also, death is something unfathomable to Elves. It's a mystery to them, just like Elf immortality is unknown to the race of Men. So, it would be a tragedy to Elrond, regardless of how many family members he had.
In the films, Elrond doesn't believe in the nobility of Men, nor does he have any faith in or love for Aragorn despite Arwen having promised herself to him (Aragorn), which is why it's a significant turnaround for him (Elrond) to reforge Narsil and deliver it to Aragorn, which are actions he takes only because Arwen is dying.
If Arwen isn't Elrond's only child, the fact that her impending death is what convinces him to abandon his distrust of Men and offer Aragorn his support doesn't make sense.
If Arwen isn't Elrond's only child, the fact that her impending death is what convinces him to abandon his distrust of Men and offer Aragorn his support doesn't make sense.
Don't see how it doesn't make sense.
Death carries more weight to Elves because it is against their nature.
Uhhh.... why? Does Elrond strike you as one who would be like "Oh well, my only daughter's dying but at least I've got sons, so bye girl"?
Actually that post is horrific and brings to serious question the character of the poster.
they're the ones forging Andruil from the Shards of Narsil in ROTK. They also would have been in the Battle at the Black Gate, along with some of the northern rangers (IIRC) but I don't know if they were included in that scene.
Nerd of the Rings posted this video about the new posters reveal for the show.
You can find the posters in the website below.
https://filmyhype.com/the-lord-of-t...e-are-the-characters-in-the-official-posters/
It looks good.
You can find the posters in the website below.
https://filmyhype.com/the-lord-of-t...e-are-the-characters-in-the-official-posters/
It looks good.
Oh yeah! Those posters look great - consider my intrigued piqued!
Loving the look of (presumably) an elvish blade / hilt (with the duel gold, silver ornamentation)!
[saddestmoon now imagining various action figures…]
Loving the look of (presumably) an elvish blade / hilt (with the duel gold, silver ornamentation)!
[saddestmoon now imagining various action figures…]
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