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If Discovery is a bust...

If Discovery does end up a failure, then they should just go post nemesis.

Most fans seem to want post nemesis over any other premise offered for consideration, at least going by polls conducted here that I have seen.

Going for post nemesis would be the best way of retaining existing fans and adding more to the fanbase.

If Discovery fails, it's not going to fail because of the time period it's set in. It will fail because people simply won't want to watch a new Star Trek show. Setting it post Nemesis will not change that.
 
Well... I was not impressed with the preview of the "Discovery" ship. it really looked like the design process to create it was not fully baked, so I am glad that they postponed the release to work on the concept more.

But to note; I also was not a fan of the Galaxy class Enterprise they introduced us to in the "Farpoint" episodes, but I got used to that one, too... :biggrin:

We have been chatting here and there about other series reboots; personally, I loved 1999's remake of "Lost in Space". That was supposed to be the first of a trilogy of movies, but the first movie tanked at the box office and that killed the franchise possibility.
 
If Discovery fails, it's not going to fail because of the time period it's set in. It will fail because people simply won't want to watch a new Star Trek show. Setting it post Nemesis will not change that.

You would have to analyse the reasons for people not watching. And those reasons are speculative at this time.
 
You would have to analyse the reasons for people not watching. And those reasons are speculative at this time.

ENT, which was set in the 22nd century, was a failure. It's ratings were horrible. Nemesis, which was set in the late 24th century, was also a failure. It was a box office dud. These are indications that people weren't interested in watching Trek anymore, no matter when it was set. Seems pretty straightforward to me.
 
ENT, which was set in the 22nd century, was a failure. It's ratings were horrible. Nemesis, which was set in the late 24th century, was also a failure. It was a box office dud. These are indications that people weren't interested in watching Trek anymore, no matter when it was set. Seems pretty straightforward to me.

I agree the franchise had waned by that point and people had stopped tuning in and buying tickets, the show's setting didn't matter.
 
ENT, which was set in the 22nd century, was a failure. It's ratings were horrible. Nemesis, which was set in the late 24th century, was also a failure. It was a box office dud. These are indications that people weren't interested in watching Trek anymore, no matter when it was set. Seems pretty straightforward to me.

I agree in part with your point, but I don't think people were not interested in trek. I think it is more to do with the general decline in the quality of Trek that put people off bothering with the latest offerings.
 
If Discovery tanks (after two seasons, CBS are claiming to already be in the black thanks to their Netflix deal), and if Star Trek 4 is put on indefinite hold (after Beyond's underwhelming theatrical performance), Star Trek probably goes on the Big Pile of Used Up Franchises, next to Terminator, Stargate and a bunch of others you probably forgot ever existed. It'll definitely be back, just not for awhile.
This post is accurate enough to depress me, as I KNOW that a rabid group of so-called "fans" would bear some responsibility for the "tanking" of Discovery.
 
This post is accurate enough to depress me, as I KNOW that a rabid group of so-called "fans" would bear some responsibility for the "tanking" of Discovery.
In the words of the "All Powerful Yogurt" - "Merchandising! Merchandising! Merchandising!" I suspect CBS is more concerned about getting more dollar on the barrel head. Big issue: How gawd-awful CBS All Access is. I suspect they will look to license "Discovery" out to other On Demand services like Amazon or NetFlix; both are now kicking the tires on a more premium service.
 
Enterprise ended in 2005.
Discovery begins in 2017.
Does that answer your question?
Not really, since we still had 09, ST ID and Beyond in between those data points. Unless this means Trek TV, in which case, I figure that there will be a ten year gap between DSC's end (if it fails) and the next try.

After all, they reboot everything nowadays.
 
Not really, since we still had 09, ST ID and Beyond in between those data points. Unless this means Trek TV, in which case, I figure that there will be a ten year gap between DSC's end (if it fails) and the next try.

After all, they reboot everything nowadays.

You didn't even bother to read the first post? It's only only one page back! Here it is again if you have trouble finding it:

I am looking forward to Discovery and have high hopes it's successful, but by chance if it is a bust and doesn't make it past one season, do you think CBS will be willing to give it another go immediately or do you think we'll have another decade or more with no new Trek series on TV or streaming sites?

Like I said, Enterprise ended in 2005. Discovery begins in 2017. Feel free to come to your own conclusions what will happen if DSC is "a bust".
 
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Did we ever find out if CBS and Viacom had a deal preventing CBS from making a new series for a certain period of time to prevent overlapping with the new film series? If so that might very easily cut the amount of down time between tv productions.
 
You didn't even bother to read the first post? It's only only one page back! Here it is again if you have trouble finding it:
Thank you for the help. I appreciate it.
Like I said, Enterprise ended in 2005. Discovery begins in 2017. Feel free to come to your own conclusions what will happen if DSC is "a bust".
I figured a ten year hiatus, at the most. Probably shorter given the shortened attention span of viewing audiences (re: Spider-man, among others).
 
It seems to me something wicked comes this way, doom and a ruined franchise are all I in my prescience can see. It's rather frightening actually.
 
It will fail because people simply won't want to watch a new Star Trek show
No, for the average viewer (non-fan) it doesn't make any difference if it's Star Trek. It's about whether or not it's a interesting premise and is it's well produced.

It being Star Trek will get some people to watch the first episode or two, then other factors will kick in.

If the show doesn't catch a buzz on social media, bye bye.
... as I KNOW that a rabid group of so-called "fans" would bear some responsibility for the "tanking" of Discovery.
This thing going to need what, three plus million viewers to survive? Do you real think a couple of hundred (at most) fans will be able to sink it?

Now if it a pile of poo, and tens of thousand of Trek fans openly denounce it, that's another story.
 
No, for the average viewer (non-fan) it doesn't make any difference if it's Star Trek. It's about whether or not it's a interesting premise and is it's well produced.

Game of Thrones apparently has an interesting premise and is well-produced, but I don't watch it because I have no interest in the subject matter. If a non-fan of Star Trek has no interest in the subject matter of DSC, they're not going to watch it no matter how well it's produced.
 
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