If Discovery is a bust...

[fireproof78]

The story in City on the Edge for example, or The Visitor, or Inner Light--all of those stories would make compelling TV no matter what era.

Exactly-Star Trek is great when it is compelling stories with compelling characters, not strict adherence to "Gene's Vision" or "fans love." Fan love is, at best, finicky, and at worst, extremely jaded and hostile.

Writers can't take "what fans like" in to account because that is capricious and constantly changing.

 

[Shaka Zulu]

Star Trek has died and come back more times than Jean Grey at this point. Fans are taking it for granted.

Personally, I hope it dies and stays dead this time.

So, why are you still a fan, and why are you here at this board, then?

Hasn't CBS already recouped their costs of making the series in the deal they did with Netflix? Also as I understand it there isn't an abundance of merchandise in the pipework for anything STD, definitely no distinct toy line (not until Spring of 2018 by which time companies will see if its a success or not so may/may not go through with it if it is a bust). As for DVD sales, why would you buy them if the show will be available on the likes of Netflix for the foreseeable future? I know I wouldn't buy the boxsets if I can watch them on a service I already pay for.

They can't keep making merch based on TOS, TNG, VOY, DS9, ENT forever; sometime soon in the future, they'll have to make merch based on the recent movies and TV show(s), because the people who buy merch based on past programs will be aging and dead. And as for DVD/Blu-Ray/4K, there are still people who just like to collect physical media.

I disagree. First of all if Star Trek ever "loses its relevance" what will that say about the state of humanity? Nothing good, I can assure you of that. And second of all people who have no idea who Gene Roddenberry is are highly unlikely to care about a show or its heritage. It plays a big role.

Where do you get this nonsense from?

And why is liking or not liking Star Trek linked to how good humanity is?

I'll tell you right now: I have no plans at all to subscribe to CBS-AA, but I do plan to buy Discovery on DVD/BR when it comes out. So either way, CBS gets my money.

I plan to get the show on Blu-Ray myself when it comes out.

 

[Nightdiamond]

I don't think it's lunacy for Star Trek fans to have goals and desires for a series. Lunacy is writers making a series that "they like" and not take the fans into account. Star Trek exists and was made great because the fans loved it. When they strayed from what made Star Trek great, they had some very unpopular shows and movies.

Exactly-Star Trek is great when it is compelling stories with compelling characters, not strict adherence to "Gene's Vision" or "fans love." Fan love is, at best, finicky, and at worst, extremely jaded and hostile.

Writers can't take "what fans like" in to account because that is capricious and constantly changing.

Both opinions make sense, but I have to agree with the first view a little more. Sometimes it seems like the producers and writers are disconnected with what the viewers would want to see and as result we ended up with "These are the Voyages" or movies like Nemesis and Insurrection.

I think it's logical from time to time to give the franchise feedback or otherwise they're going to have their own ideas of what the fans want, and there could very well be a These are the Voyages .2.0

 

[Bry_Sinclair]

Just wondering whether this thread will be renamed "When Discovery is a bust..." if going by the first episode is any indication

 

[CJCade]

Just wondering whether this thread will be renamed "When Discovery is a bust..." if going by the first episode is any indication

There are aspects that have me interested, but Star Trek it isn't. I think "when" is a fitting change with what they have given us so far.

 

[urbandefault]

Think of when Ted Turner bought the MGM and classic film libraries.

Yeah, he tried colorizing a bunch of classics and it backfired.