I do not like MCU films

[Relayer1]

all I ask for is something more, breaking away from the grounded approach is a step backwards because its dumbs comic films again.

Not at all !

I love most of the MCU movies AND most of the X movies. Singer and co. went a long way towards 'normalising' public reaction to superheroes by toning it down in some areas and presenting serious drama with a fantastic twist. They paved the way for the MCU which also sidestepped the costume thing by starting with Iron Man.

Marvel quickly moved to introduce more 'comicy' elements though. It's not dumbing anything down, it's reflecting more of the source material and now the X franchise is following suit.

You sound like someone who's a bit embarrassed by the source material - 'Comics are kids stuff'. They're not. They're for everyone and there's as much variety in content and target audience as in, say, novels. Just staying with Marvel, compare Millers Daredevil with Deadpool !

Marvel are keeping more elements from the comics. It could be said that they're staying truer to them, and they're taking the audience with them. It's not dumbing down. You don't have to make superheroes stupid, even those who wear colored tights.

Yeah, I love the hell out of the MCU movies and shows. The major ones (Avengers, CA, Iron Man, Thor) I go to see in the theaters. The minor ones (GotG, AntMan) I wait for Blu-Ray. (I only consider them minor because they generally don't blip on my radar the way the others do.).

You're doing it wrong. Guardians and Ant Man were way better than Avengers 2, Iron Man 3 and Thor 2 !

Cap 2, now that was great...

 

[MacLeod]

Well IM3 certainly did have it's flaws and perhaps was the weakest entry in the IM films not that it didn't have it's moments but I felt the end sequence was over the top. But others may have loved it. As is the case with many things we can like different aspects of the same film/book/TV show etc...

 

[Relayer1]

Well IM3 certainly did have it's flaws and perhaps was the weakest entry in the IM films not that it didn't have it's moments but I felt the end sequence was over the top. But others may have loved it. As is the case with many things we can like different aspects of the same film/book/TV show etc...

True.

I thought IM3 was actually an improvement on IM2, which is probably the worst of the MCU movies. Imho anyway...

 

[Mage]

Well IM3 certainly did have it's flaws and perhaps was the weakest entry in the IM films not that it didn't have it's moments but I felt the end sequence was over the top. But others may have loved it. As is the case with many things we can like different aspects of the same film/book/TV show etc...

True.

I thought IM3 was actually an improvement on IM2, which is probably the worst of the MCU movies. Imho anyway...

Agreed. Personally, I think Iron Man 2 is the weakest movie of them all. Entertaining, sure. But not very strong. Iron Man 3 showed a lot more character and plot. I liked it.

 

[stardream]

I've watched all of them...I'm even watching Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D on TV. I'm just crazy like that.

 

[Mage]

I've watched all of them...I'm even watching Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D on TV. I'm just crazy like that.

Yeah, way to crazy. I think you need help.

 

[Relayer1]

I've watched all of them...I'm even watching Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D on TV. I'm just crazy like that.

Me too. Agents of Shield Season 2 Bluray arrived ths morning.

I'm not that keen on AoS...

 

[M.A.C.O.]

I like the MCU films. I have my criticisms, sure, but they're always constructive. Most of the time, they stem from Marvel making the heroes so awesome and the villains so lame.

I think the MCU has changed things. Now everyone is trying to emulate Marvel's success. Some have legs (X-Men), some crashed and burned (Spider-Man), and others have yet to prove themselves (BvS + SS).

Most MCU films hold up pretty well. In 2013, we got Iron Man 3 and Thor TDW. I didn't and still don't care for IM3, but I saw Thor TDW twice in theaters. I rewatch that film a lot now that I own it. While Thor TDW was in theaters, it was competing with The Hobbit Desolation of Smaug. I didn't pay to see Smaug, because I knew it was a waste of my time after An Unexpected Journey. Thor TDW however, gave me a swords and sorcery movie to just chill out to. As a fan of Narnia, Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings, Game of Thrones, just having a fun movie like that was nice.

Captain America TWS was awesome too. It was like Captain America and James Bond came together and made a movie.

So, yeah. There's a lot to like, but MCU isn't your cup of tea. That's fine. There's about to be a slew of other CBMs starting next year.

 

[MacLeod]

Unfortunatly for me I think the ending to IM3 with all those suits was just a shade over the top. The first two-thirds of the film for me where more interesting. A good perforamnce from Ben Kinglsey as the Mandarian.

 

[Campe]

I find their films generally boring, simplistic, having no plot very watered down for kiddies and very generic. the marvel forumla has been bad for the comic book genre. I prefer the bryan singer's xmen films or the nolan's batman films to mcu films because those films tried to move the comic genre away from been just dumb and about explosions.


i will hate for xmen to return back to marvel and see xmen fims become dumb down so that children can buy what disney is selling.

is there anyone else who hates MCU films.

That's great. Have a cookie!

Are superhero films fine art? Absolutely not. But they are fun entertainment. If you don't like them, that's fine. There's a really good way to deal with that -- don't watch them.

 

[M.A.C.O.]

Unfortunatly for me I think the ending to IM3 with all those suits was just a shade over the top. The first two-thirds of the film for me where more interesting. A good perforamnce from Ben Kinglsey as the Mandarian.

Naw, Killian is the Mandarin.

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Haha

Ya know, the placement of lights behind him, make this gif even funnier than what he says.

 

[Anwar]

I find their films generally boring, simplistic, having no plot very watered down for kiddies and very generic. the marvel forumla has been bad for the comic book genre. I prefer the bryan singer's xmen films or the nolan's batman films to mcu films because those films tried to move the comic genre away from been just dumb and about explosions.


i will hate for xmen to return back to marvel and see xmen fims become dumb down so that children can buy what disney is selling.

is there anyone else who hates MCU films.

Wormhole09? That you?

Anyways, I love the MCU films. Mainly for breaking away from that whole "grounded" approach and making good movies without giving up on the wondrous Universe full of crazy stuff like Gods and Aliens and Magic and Super-Science the way X-Men did.

Nolan's films are good too, but a tad overrated IMO.

what is a wormhole9. all I ask for is something more, breaking away from the grounded approach is a step backwards because its dumbs comic films again. mcu films are batman forever 2.0

No, it just means that they aren't ashamed of the source material and aren't afraid to try and tell good stories WITHOUT ditching all the comic stuff.

If you think the grounded approach is the only way to do things, then you're just unnecessarily limiting possibilities.

 

[davejames]

While many of Marvel's movies (like Winter Soldier, Guardians and Ant-Man) continue to be well made and entertaining, I just don't find myself getting excited for them at all anymore. Certainly not like I used to for superhero movies. They've just made everything feel too damn safe and predictable by this point.

Even if the DC movies turn out to not be as good, I'm still at least a LOT more excited about their approach, and how they're clearly trying to depict their characters in a much more serious, mythic, and larger than life way-- which is how I've always kinda preferred my superheroes to be.

There's obviously nothing wrong with some jokes, but Marvel has made their world SO light and jokey that I just frankly don't feel any sense of awe and wonder about it at all anymore.

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

Remember that time comic book movies were serious art?


No. Wait. That never happened.

That's a poor excuse for certain films not being more than a video game. There have been comic-book movies that have been praised for more than being an FX reel (Superman '78), or/and having memorable performances (The Dark Knight), so there's no protecting comic movie productions--with every resource available--from being more than a cross between the 80's GI Joe cartoon, and something more at home as an XBox title.

 

[Anwar]

Even if the DC movies turn out to not be as good, I'm still at least a LOT more excited about their approach, and how they're clearly trying to depict their characters in a much more serious, mythic, and larger than life way-- which is how I've always kinda preferred my superheroes to be.

DC's always been more of a "Archetype Hero" type of Universe, whereas Marvel has always been about rejecting that way of thinking and characterization in favor of characters who are flawed people first and superheroes second.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Even if the DC movies turn out to not be as good, I'm still at least a LOT more excited about their approach, and how they're clearly trying to depict their characters in a much more serious, mythic, and larger than life way-- which is how I've always kinda preferred my superheroes to be.

DC's always been more of a "Archetype Hero" type of Universe, whereas Marvel has always been about rejecting that way of thinking and characterization in favor of characters who are flawed people first and superheroes second.

DC pretty much abandoned that type of characterization in the 70s and 80s. Product like Watchmen, the Dark Knight and the Vertigo line buried that paradigm.

 

[davejames]

DC's always been more of a "Archetype Hero" type of Universe, whereas Marvel has always been about rejecting that way of thinking and characterization in favor of characters who are flawed people first and superheroes second.

Which I totally love when it comes to characters like Spider-Man or Wolverine. But I'm not sure I really want every superhero in a comic universe to be that way.

 

[The Wormhole]

I always thought the Edward Norton Hulk film was an unofficial sequel to the Bana movie. That is, although the Norton film isn't really a sequel, it's done in a way that if you want to think of it as a continuation of the Bana film, you can.

Provided you willfully ignore all the inconsistencies between them. Incredible Hulk distances itself from HULK pretty much from the first minute of the film.

Admittedly, I am going on very vague memories here, but as I remember, the Norton film starts off with Bruce Banner hiding outside America, which was inline with how the Bana film ended, so I pretended they were connected even though I knew they officially weren't.

Plus, Lou Ferrigno plays a security guard in both movies.

 

[M.A.C.O.]

I always thought the Edward Norton Hulk film was an unofficial sequel to the Bana movie. That is, although the Norton film isn't really a sequel, it's done in a way that if you want to think of it as a continuation of the Bana film, you can.

Provided you willfully ignore all the inconsistencies between them. Incredible Hulk distances itself from HULK pretty much from the first minute of the film.

Admittedly, I am going on very vague memories here, but as I remember, the Norton film starts off with Bruce Banner hiding outside America, which was inline with how the Bana film ended, so I pretended they were connected even though I knew they officially weren't.

Plus, Lou Ferrigno plays a security guard in both movies.

I had the same feeling when I first saw TIH.

Hulk 2003 ends with Banner in Brazil.

The Incredible Hulk begins with Banner in Brazil.

Haha

Kevin Feige was producer on both of them. For what it's worth.

 

[Relayer1]

While many of Marvel's movies (like Winter Soldier, Guardians and Ant-Man) continue to be well made and entertaining, I just don't find myself getting excited for them at all anymore. Certainly not like I used to for superhero movies.

Which ones used to excite you ? The dated 70's Superman, the crappy Burton Batmans, their crappy sequels, the crappy Nolan Batmans (second one excepted), the dodgy FF movies, the underwhelming Raimi Spidermans, the badly flawed Ang Lee Hulk etc. etc. ?

The MCU is the superhero approach most comic enthusiasts wanted...