How would human male/Vulcan female relationship “realistically” go?

[BohandiAnsoid]

As I wrote some time ago, I like this idea of a human male/Vulcan female relationship and possibly marriage. However, Star Trek never really showed them. There was one such (married) couple on screen in TNG episode “Suspicions”, but their relationship was not shown. Then there is Trip/T’Pol, but it is not really good, with T’Pol being emotionally abusive to him, only really caring when he seems to move on (and, to his credit, he did something what not many men in fiction did and moved away to a place where he would be far away from her). Of, and there is mention of alternative Trip/T’Pol on Lower Decks, but only T’Pol appeared and it was just mentioned, not depicted.

So, since there is no such thing depicted in canon, but canon shows it is possible, how do you think such a relationship would go? From the beginning to the end, or part of it. Either by example or in a general manner. Whatever you think to say on the subject, say it.

 

[The Wormhole]

Rather logically, I would presume. Otherwise, why is the Vulcan partaking?

 

[BohandiAnsoid]

I guess so, but not everything that is logical is the same.

 

[knightgrace]

She's the BOSS...

Because it is only logical.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

As I wrote some time ago, I like this idea of a human male/Vulcan female relationship and possibly marriage. However, Star Trek never really showed them. There was one such (married) couple on screen in TNG episode “Suspicions”, but their relationship was not shown. Then there is Trip/T’Pol, but it is not really good, with T’Pol being emotionally abusive to him, only really caring when he seems to move on (and, to his credit, he did something what not many men in fiction did and moved away to a place where he would be far away from her). Of, and there is mention of alternative Trip/T’Pol on Lower Decks, but only T’Pol appeared and it was just mentioned, not depicted.

So, since there is no such thing depicted in canon, but canon shows it is possible, how do you think such a relationship would go? From the beginning to the end, or part of it. Either by example or in a general manner. Whatever you think to say on the subject, say it.

Watch E2.

 

[cooleddie74]

In LD a T'Pol and Trip Tucker from an alternate timeline married and remained a wedded couple for many, many years. That T'Pol found her marriage to that Trip to be a positive experience if one with its own set of challenges (because, let's face it, Charles Tucker III in any timeline would be a lot to handle personality- and stubbornness-wise) and she seemed to genuinely miss his presence in her then-current life.

Seems that a human man and Vulcan woman can indeed make a marriage work and a long-term one, and that's before you even factor the ENT episode "E2" into the equation.

 

[Rincewiend]

What about Sarek and Amanda?

 

[Shawnster]

I asked ChatGPT

1. Emotional Expression:
Vulcans express affection subtly through trust and small gestures. The human partner must learn to value these quiet signs of care.

2. Physical Intimacy:
Touch is sacred and deeply intimate for Vulcans. Open displays of affection are rare, with simple gestures like a finger-touch being meaningful.

3. Mental Bond:
A telepathic mind bond can form between mates, offering deep emotional and mental connection beyond words — intense but potentially overwhelming for a human.

4. Cultural Complications:
Vulcan society is conservative about relationships, especially with offworlders. The couple might face social disapproval or familial pressure.

5. Conflict Resolution:
Vulcans resolve issues through logic. Emotional arguments would be challenging; calm, reasoned discussions would be key to resolving differences.

6. Shared Experiences:
Both would need to embrace each other’s cultures — Vulcan philosophy and discipline, and human emotion, art, and spontaneity — to truly connect.

Overall:
A relationship of deep meaning, quiet affection, occasional difficulty, and profound trust — rare, but uniquely rewarding.

Summary: What It Would Be Like

• Subtle but profound. Quiet gestures would carry deep meaning.
• Occasionally difficult. Differences in emotional expression would cause friction.
• Built on respect. Mutual understanding of each other’s cultures and philosophies is essential.
• Rare and precious. Such unions are uncommon in the Star Trek universe, making them special.

 

[Qonundrum]

Swap "illogical" for "headache" and the happy time aspect flies right out the airlock, at warp speed.

 

[Qonundrum]

I asked ChatGPT

1. Emotional Expression:
Vulcans express affection subtly through trust and small gestures. The human partner must learn to value these quiet signs of care.

2. Physical Intimacy:
Touch is sacred and deeply intimate for Vulcans. Open displays of affection are rare, with simple gestures like a finger-touch being meaningful.

3. Mental Bond:
A telepathic mind bond can form between mates, offering deep emotional and mental connection beyond words — intense but potentially overwhelming for a human.

From which episodes did it "determine" that?

4. Cultural Complications:
Vulcan society is conservative about relationships, especially with offworlders. The couple might face social disapproval or familial pressure.

Interesting thesaural summary taken from dialogue from "Amok Time".

5. Conflict Resolution:
Vulcans resolve issues through logic. Emotional arguments would be challenging; calm, reasoned discussions would be key to resolving differences.

That's taught in human children's classrooms too.

6. Shared Experiences:
Both would need to embrace each other’s cultures — Vulcan philosophy and discipline, and human emotion, art, and spontaneity — to truly connect.

That's taught in more than just children's classrooms too.

Overall:
A relationship of deep meaning, quiet affection, occasional difficulty, and profound trust — rare, but uniquely rewarding.

Or just watch "Journey to Babel" and get the same conclusions every time Sarek pops up.

Summary: What It Would Be Like

• Subtle but profound. Quiet gestures would carry deep meaning.
• Occasionally difficult. Differences in emotional expression would cause friction.
• Built on respect. Mutual understanding of each other’s cultures and philosophies is essential.
• Rare and precious. Such unions are uncommon in the Star Trek universe, making them special.

Like a lot of tv talk shows, that feels good but is about as deep as a puddle that no guppy fry could swim in

 

[Nyotarules]

Vulcan male libido increases with age so the Vulcan female might end up disappointed as she ages. (Or they could used space Viagra)

 

[Firebird]

Vulcan male libido increases with age so the Vulcan female might end up disappointed as she ages. (Or they could used space Viagra)

There comes a time when we all need assistance in climbing the steps of Mount Seleya, if you know what I mean.

 

[Shawnster]

From which episodes did it "determine" that?

My parameter was broad. "Based on everything accessible about star trek, what would a comitted romantic relationship be like between human male and Vulcan female?"

The results were pretty much gender neutral in that the same could be said regardless of pairing type. The desc fits pretty much any human/Vulcan pairing.

From which episodes did it "determine" that?

Off the top of my head
1. Journey to Babel
2. Ditto
3. The general idea of mental bond can be seen in Burnham and Sarek's relationship and poss Saavik and Spock in Star Trek III.

 

[JonnyQuest037]

Really smoothly, because the human male would already be emotionally distant.

 

[BillJ]

Realistically? It wouldn’t. Vulcans aren’t real.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I asked ChatGPT

1. Emotional Expression:
Vulcans express affection subtly through trust and small gestures. The human partner must learn to value these quiet signs of care.

2. Physical Intimacy:
Touch is sacred and deeply intimate for Vulcans. Open displays of affection are rare, with simple gestures like a finger-touch being meaningful.

3. Mental Bond:
A telepathic mind bond can form between mates, offering deep emotional and mental connection beyond words — intense but potentially overwhelming for a human.

4. Cultural Complications:
Vulcan society is conservative about relationships, especially with offworlders. The couple might face social disapproval or familial pressure.

5. Conflict Resolution:
Vulcans resolve issues through logic. Emotional arguments would be challenging; calm, reasoned discussions would be key to resolving differences.

6. Shared Experiences:
Both would need to embrace each other’s cultures — Vulcan philosophy and discipline, and human emotion, art, and spontaneity — to truly connect.

Overall:
A relationship of deep meaning, quiet affection, occasional difficulty, and profound trust — rare, but uniquely rewarding.

Summary: What It Would Be Like

• Subtle but profound. Quiet gestures would carry deep meaning.
• Occasionally difficult. Differences in emotional expression would cause friction.
• Built on respect. Mutual understanding of each other’s cultures and philosophies is essential.
• Rare and precious. Such unions are uncommon in the Star Trek universe, making them special.

ChatGPT has too much time on its hands.

 

[StarTrek1701]

T'Pol aside, Vulcan women rarely if ever step out from their race.
But Sarek, both times, had a human female as his wife.
Lots to think about.

 

[StarTrek1701]

Realistically? It wouldn’t. Vulcans aren’t real.

Neither are you.

 

[BohandiAnsoid]

T'Pol aside, Vulcan women rarely if ever step out from their race.

There is that Vulcan scientists in TNG "Suspicions". She was married to a human man.

 

[StarTrek1701]

There is that Vulcan scientists in TNG "Suspicions". She was married to a human man.

Illogical. The romance would be as boring as the 5000th discussion about Tuvix.