Human małe/Vulcan female romantic relationships

[BohandiAnsoid]

Human małe/Vulcan female romantic relationships

Relationships are something that, unfortunately, Star Trek struggles somewhat most of the time. Fanfiction often tries to Gill in, with między results. But it often does it by “shipping” canon characters. And that is completely fine. But there is something else that can be done. To pair up not particular characters, but character ideas and typem from Star Trek. And that includes species and sexes combinations. One of the ideas I had is Ocamoa female (mostly Kes, but not nessesarily)/human (or Bajoran or similar) male And another is Vulcan female/humsn małe. I will be talking more about the letter, but I will just say, in my opinion, these “pairings” are pretty opposite to each other.

Now, Vulcan female and human male pairings dud appear in canon. We have such a couple in TNG Suspicions, but we know nearly nothing about them. And then there is Trip/T’Pol in Enterprise (and, more recently, Lower Decks), but any actual relationship that happened between them happened in Alternate Universes and offscreen. It still gives some insight, but I learned much more from reading fanfiction about then.

Do, what is there that has potential?

Well, from what I know, it changes the usual dynamics of a male/fwmale relationships a bit. For one, the male here is more likely to be openly showing emotions than female. But he is also going to quickly learn that Vulcans fo, indeed, have emotions. They have capacity to fewl atteacton, lusterka and even love. They can even be very… physical about it, just in privacy. And, again, in opposition to Humand females, or say Ocampa ones, Vulcan women are very direct (a trait they share with ex - Borg like Seven of Nine) which also has a nice potential.

Not to mention, a picture of such a pairing is not bad too.

That is enough for a nice pairing. But there is more. Because Vulcan culture does not seem to support it. Even the opposite idea (Vulcan male/human female) seems to be more compatible with Vulcan culture than yhis. And, for all their talk about logic Vulcans seem to be willung to throw it away to uphold their traditions. So, it is ptobable that, unless the Vulcan female is from some familij who is not typical, there is going to be some problem. Now, I prefer if they stay together despite it. I don't like the way Enterprise handlem it. But the potentat for drama, some conflict that have to be resolved - its nice. I prefer if the conflict would be resolved with the help of said male and/or an ally to the pairing (a role which Kes fills in my Enterprise AU Fic to Trip and T'Pol) and not completely in another way.

And even better, there is a possibility thst he will be fully accepted and there will be no problems… And may w can even marry her the Vulcan way… but then gets to live on Vulcan and learn Vulcan culture and this have so much potential. Vulcan culture is so… particular. And I could talk a lot, why, despite all the “needs of the many” talk, I actually don't think Vulcan culture is a good example of a collectivist culture. The way I wrote the Ocampa was. In my opinion.

I do like Vulcans, Ocampa and Trill the most. Ocampa are my favorite (thanks to that line about no jelousy and other such ugly stuff being in their society), but the other are close seconds.

 

[RevdKathy]

Speculation is interesting. Why don't you get on and write with the idea so we could see how you think it would play in a story?

 

[BohandiAnsoid]

I will probably do that. I already did something like that once, but I was younger and far less experienced at the time. However, I am too busy with other things (including Galactic Civilizations IV and fanfiction for it, and "remastering" my old stories) to write more than some one - shots (and even that, it's just maybe).

 

[BohandiAnsoid]

In my recent post about the human male/Vulcan female relationships I mentioned that I consider Vulcan/human relationships to be opposite to human/Ocampa relationships. I didn't explore it then, but I am going to do this now.

In essence, the difference is in the physicality of the relationships. With Ocampa, relationships (in my fanfiction and ideas) are much less physical than normal. They do engage in displays of affection and all… But not only are they going to actually have sex much less (probably only during elogium), but even the other displays of affection would be less physical. With Vulcans, on the other hand, it would be the opposite - such relationships would be even more physical, but only in private.

It may look strange, especially since Vulcans and Ocampa don;lt seem to be that different (aside from Vulcans controlling their emotions and Ocampa being open with them). Both are telepaths and (as far as I am concerned) form permanent telepathic bonds. So, what’s the difference?

While cultures of both species are certainly a thing here, the most important factor, I think, is the nature of their bonds. An Ocampa bond is naturally open. That is, when bonded, minds automatically share all feelings, emotions and thoughts. And it creates a pleasant experience that, if two minds are connected, amplifies it until it is more pleasant than anything non - telepathic can be. Ocampa minds are naturally open to each other, and to members of other species too. They are seeking out to connect and to share. It can be very easily blocked, but a conscious decision must be made (from either side) to do so. Now, by the time of Voyager, Ocampa’s strength in this was very small (although what Kes later did started to reverse the damage), but it is still visible. I mean, Kes is certainly very open to people, which shows with the high number of friends she quickly makes. In summary, their bonds natural, standard state is “completely open”.

This is in direct contrast to the Vulcans. They also form telepathic bonds, but are much more strict about them. And not only with whom they form such bonds, but also how they are used. Naturally, all these bonds do is bring mates together during the Pon Farr. And while it can be used to communicate without thoughts, it must be initiated. While the Ocampa (and their mates) must consciously block the sharing, Vulcans do the opposite - they must consciously share anything they’re willing to share. And, while it is not hard, it is harder than for an Ocampa to block sharing. And, because of these limits, Vulcan bond’s don’t create much good feeling from itself. But it will amplify any existing good feeling, and it will therefore encourage physical activities between the couple. Even more than in a fully human (or Bajoran or Trill or most) couple.

And this makes them an interesting contrast to write. I never wrote a fanfiction that features both types of pairings yet (although I wrote a story that featured an Ocampa next to and as an alto a human male/Vulcan female couple, the best known such canon couple), but my favorite paintings from each category is Tom/Kes and Trip/T’Pol. I also made an original pairing for the mater category, Milosz (a name from my native language I like)/T’pal. It is quite fun to write, and both characters and much more than just parts of this couple.

 

[E-DUB]

I can see the appeal of of human male/Vulcan female relationships for certain human males. Vulcans embrace logic, which some human males might find absent in human females. Also, due to the longer life spans Vulcan females would retain their looks longer than human ones. I'm not embracing these viewpoints myself, mind you, merely explaining how some human males might find the Vulcan female appealing. What a Vulcan female would get out of such a relationship, I have no idea.

 

[BohandiAnsoid]

Maybe a feeling of independance from part of tradition without sheding it entirely? Or maybe just physical attraction and pleasure without having to fully commit the way Vulcan marriages works? Just from the top of my head.

 

[Will The Serious]

I wrote a story in which it happened to have a Vulcan woman meet up with her past human lover. She explained her brief affair to her Vulcan boss,

He was in the hotel bar. He was pleasing to look at, so I thought he would be… entertaining." T'Pose says without reservations.

Vulcan's are not above acting for fun. All else being equal, one would logically prefer pleasure over no pleasure. Of course, it is illogical to sacrifice a valuable goal for something as trivial as an hour or so of self-gratification. Vulcan's may pursue long term relationships outside Vulcan society if they believed it offered some advantage. That advantage may even be to avoid an undesirable life pairing.

Take T'Pring, Spock's promised bride, she did not want to spend her life bound to an absentee husband, so she took the chance that she could avoid that fate by developing a relationship with another Vulcan, who was to be Spock's kal-if-fee opponent. Upon discovering a more certain way to achieve her goal, T'Pring named Kirk as the challenge, accepting the very remote possibility that Kirk might win and then claim her as his prize. Even though she was pretty sure of the outcome, she still faced the remote possibility that she may have become a human's life mate.

-Will