How many Andromeda seasons are worth watching?
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Sadly, just the first two. Some will tell you it starts to suck about halfway through Season Two, though.
I only saw the first two seasons, they were okay
Earlier this year I managed to get through to about 5 episodes into the last season before I lost the strength to put the final disk into the DVD player.
It's just such a good cast.
Poor bastards.
It's just such a good cast.
Poor bastards.
Every episode up to 2x12 "Ouroboros" or maybe the episode before that.
She's purple and god only knows what she's going to do with that tail.
The first season is worthwhile. After that, don't bother.
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I couldn't make it past the initial two episodes of the first season. I don't like extra cheese with my cheese already served with a side helping of cheese.
All of Season 1; the first 12 episodes of season 2 plus episodes 20 ("The Knight, Death, and the Devil") and 21 ("Immaculate Perception"); and any season 3 episode written by Zack Stentz & Ashley Edward Miller ("Cui Bono," "The Lone and Level Sands," "The Unconquerable Man," "The Dark Backward," "Point of the Spear," "Twilight of the Idols," "Day of Judgment, Day of Wrath"). The thing was, Zack & Ash were holdovers from the original writing staff, and they continued to write the show as it was originally meant to be, even though the others on the writing staff were writing a completely different, much more incoherent and lowbrow show. The Zack/Ash episodes were undermined by rewrites in some cases (especially "The Dark Backward"), but overall it's like there were two or three different, alternating versions of Andromeda being released in S3, and the Zack/Ash version was the only good one. (There were two other holdovers from the original staff, Matt Kiene and Joe Reinkemeyer, but once Robert Hewitt Wolfe left, the quality of their episodes plummeted for some reason. Their "Immaculate Perception" is great, but that one was written and produced while RHW was still in charge and then delayed until late in the season.)
Also episode 18 of season 3, "Deep Midnight's Voice," has a terrific subplot involving Tyr, but the other plotline is horrible. Much the same can be said of the season-3 finale, which has some great Dylan-Tyr stuff in the midst of an otherwise insanely stupid tale.
And yeah, there is a cheese factor in the first two seasons, but that's the fault of the production, not the writing. The show had great concepts and excellent writers, and a pretty good cast, but unfortunately Majel Roddenberry sold it to Tribune Entertainment, a company more concerned with cutting costs than making quality TV, so the production values were poor. And that same penny-pinching mentality led to the firing of the showrunner after a season and a half (though Robert Hewitt Wolfe held out longer than most of Tribune's other series creators/developers, who rarely lasted more than a single season before getting kicked out), and his replacement by a successor who simply didn't get it. The problem was that RHW wanted to make a sophisticated, thought-provoking hard science fiction saga with a rich, evolving story arc, but Tribune wanted to make a lowbrow, inexpensive piece of action fluff. It was a mismatch from the start, the same mismatch that destroyed Earth: Final Conflict.
Also episode 18 of season 3, "Deep Midnight's Voice," has a terrific subplot involving Tyr, but the other plotline is horrible. Much the same can be said of the season-3 finale, which has some great Dylan-Tyr stuff in the midst of an otherwise insanely stupid tale.
And yeah, there is a cheese factor in the first two seasons, but that's the fault of the production, not the writing. The show had great concepts and excellent writers, and a pretty good cast, but unfortunately Majel Roddenberry sold it to Tribune Entertainment, a company more concerned with cutting costs than making quality TV, so the production values were poor. And that same penny-pinching mentality led to the firing of the showrunner after a season and a half (though Robert Hewitt Wolfe held out longer than most of Tribune's other series creators/developers, who rarely lasted more than a single season before getting kicked out), and his replacement by a successor who simply didn't get it. The problem was that RHW wanted to make a sophisticated, thought-provoking hard science fiction saga with a rich, evolving story arc, but Tribune wanted to make a lowbrow, inexpensive piece of action fluff. It was a mismatch from the start, the same mismatch that destroyed Earth: Final Conflict.
In the origin story, the ship escapes a black hole by firing off all its nuclear weapons (each of which is supposed to be insanely powerful.) Somehow, more energy (which is well known to be equivalent to mass, thanks to Einstein circa 1905,) is supposed to temporarily weaken a black hole. In short, to answer the OP's question, strictly speaking, none. The notion that it got worse after Wolfe left strikes me as purely mythical. It did get much, much cheaper in fifth season, to the point they didn't do space shows anymore!
Tribune Entertainment... truly a scourge if ever there were one... I still can't forgive what they did with Earth: Final Conflict... ah, how as a wee lad I watched that show so devotedly only to witness its fall from grace in such a terrible manner... oh, how I long for Boone and Lily and Augur... oh, what a...
Huh? Andromeda? Don't bother. You don't want to go through a severe case of depression, do you?
Huh? Andromeda? Don't bother. You don't want to go through a severe case of depression, do you?
Is anyone watching True Blood?
The only way to get to the end of this shitcluster is to be bound to your bed by razor-wire in front of your television set.
The only way to get to the end of this shitcluster is to be bound to your bed by razor-wire in front of your television set.
Sounds about right.
What Christopher said.
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