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Glee: Season 3 Discussion/Premiere preview clip

Of course there are also plenty of straight actors who will simply never be seen in a romantic leading role either (present company included). Acting has never been a very egalitarian profession.

But it is very difficult to come to terms with that when you're in high school.
 
While you can say that a more rational or adult being would take that as a sign to really strive to broaden their skill set, we are supposed to be seeing a teen ager. While there are some teenagers who are very rational, most aren't. Most lean with their feelings and not with their mind.
Generally, I agree. We are supposed to be seeing Kurt as a teenager with teenage-like responses. However, he is not the only teenage character on the show and the other characters don't seem to always react to everything as badly as Kurt does. There is also another gay teenage male on the show and he doesn't act out the way Kurt does. As a result, it has made Kurt an easy character to dislike or at least be misunderstood.

It seems to me, and I agree with others, it appears the producers are using Kurt as kind of a petrie dish for 'bad stuff that happens to gays in high school' and having him always react with immaturity. Giving the character a sense of humor about some of this stuff (as I believe he had in season 1) would go a long way in making him a lot more likable -- at least less easily disliked.
 
I really started to dislike Kurt when he started stalking Finn, Finn called him a fag, and then everyone thought that Finn was the most horrible person ever. Just piss poor writing (even though they tried to fix it). Kurt has never really recovered from that as a character for me. Just too dramatic and "me me me me me."
 
I really started to dislike Kurt when he started stalking Finn, Finn called him a fag, and then everyone thought that Finn was the most horrible person ever. Just piss poor writing (even though they tried to fix it). Kurt has never really recovered from that as a character for me. Just too dramatic and "me me me me me."


Yeah, Kurt makes gays look bad.

However the Kurt character is clearly based off of the creator of the show.
 
Zap2it is reporting Chord Overstreet will be back this season -- as a regular! Bring on the Trouty Mouth!
 
Zap2it is reporting Chord Overstreet will be back this season -- as a regular! Bring on the Trouty Mouth!

Umm....

Three months after his high profile departure from Glee, Chord Overstreet is in final talks to return to the show on a recurring basis, TVLine has learned exclusively.

Either way they should have told him no. He QUIT, he LEFT, they explained why he left fine, his character was useless, move on. :lol:
 
Well, now his character can continue being useless, but Overstreet can pick up a cheque while he's at it. :)

Mark
 
bigdaddy's right, there's no point in bringing Chord Overstreet back, his character was useless, he's not needed ... unless the spin-off is happening! With Rachel, Kurt, Finn, Blaine (doesn't matter if he's a junior, if Kurt leaves Blaine leaves) and Santana gone they need every character they can get for season 4.
Mercedes, Puck, Mike and Quinn are graduating too, that means the Glee club will have only three members in season 4. They can't be sure that new characters will catch on and Sam, as useless as he was, was not unpopular or disliked, it's better to bring him back.

Fox won this round, Overstreet was the one who crawled back and accepted the same offer that wasn't good enough a few weeks ago, he and his management won't make demands again.:lol:
 
I really felt uncomfortable watching this episode tonight, and I might just be feeling uncomfortable with the show all together now. I honestly think they took things way way too far tonight, basically with the bullying (Which is really getting old, and struck a cord because I'm Quarter Irish), and this Quinn/Puck/Shelby storyline really took a turn for the worse. So Puck and Shelby might be getting into a relationship? Is that even appropriate for this show? Are they just going for shock factor now? It just feels so wrong and I hope they're not serious with this. Unfortunately I think they are, and that really does rub me the wrong way. As for Quinn, man does she need some serious help. Is she even redeemable at this point?

I'm not sure there was much to like about this episode. Mercades drops a bombshell and is barely in the next episode (way to go trying to use her more by quitting new directions), and it's really time for Brittney to stop with the "You called me an Idiot I hate you now" routine and grew the hell up. I do think this episode caused some major damage to this show (and given the previous episode was so good and this season was going well, that's saying something) and I wonder if it can be redeemed. It's gone from a fun singing show to something bordering on BSG Dark levels (Is that going too far?) that I really don't know what to say about it anymore.

Actually I do have something positive to say about this show. Burt Hummel is Glee's best character and his storyline to run against Sue is a good direction for him.
 
I agree with Tomalak that the show is turning quite dark and, at least to me, unlikeable.

It seems whenever a cast member opens their mouth it is to either attack someone else or utter just some plain dumb bullshit.. most of the "kids" have become so unlikeable recently that it has become hard to like the show anymore.

I really didn't care for most of the plotlines of the show since i'm no teenager for a long time now but even the songs and the arrangements have been lacking quite a bit this season now.. for every good performance (Britanny's "Girls" last episode was so awesome) we get double that or more of mediocre covers that are just re-singings of some songs.

Glee is losing steam.. fast and if by mid season it doesn't pick up substantially i think i'll drop and just catch the song scenes via Youtube.
 
So Puck and Shelby might be getting into a relationship? Is that even appropriate for this show? Are they just going for shock factor now?
Student-teacher relationships are hardly a new thing on TV shows. It happened on Dawson's Creek, for instance.

I'm kind of interested to see where this is going, because it does feel like a sort of natural development (same with Quinn's current track, which follows fairly easily from her progressively downhill emotional state over the course of the show). It could be a total Nip/Tuck style trainwreck, though.

Yay for Brit/Santana (who was on fire last night, with all kinds of great lines).
 
Maybe I'm just not used to that kind of thing, the Student/Teacher relationships because this is the first of those kind of shows that I've really followed. I just see it and given everything else that's happened on this show, I wonder if they've finally gone too far and crossed the line. Perhaps you're right and this storyline might get interesting again but how it got going and with Quinn being who she is, I just have a real bad feeling about it.
 
So Puck and Shelby might be getting into a relationship? Is that even appropriate for this show? Are they just going for shock factor now?
Student-teacher relationships are hardly a new thing on TV shows. It happened on Dawson's Creek, for instance.

Heck, they did it on Life Unexpected last year! :)

Yeah, and look what happened to them! (Though the real depressing thing about that show was that Shiri Appleby is now considered old enough to play the mother of a high schooler. God, I feel old!)
 
I really started to dislike Kurt when he started stalking Finn, Finn called him a fag, and then everyone thought that Finn was the most horrible person ever. Just piss poor writing (even though they tried to fix it). Kurt has never really recovered from that as a character for me. Just too dramatic and "me me me me me."

OK, Kurt was attracted to Finn. Big deal. He pinned after him. How many characters have reacted poorly to someone they were attracted to during that first and 2nd season? We have Rachel going after Finn, when he says he is dating someone else, we have FInn who uses Rachel to keep her in the Glee CLub. We have Santana who uses both Puck and Brittany. We have Quinn who lies about her pregnancy to keep Finn, while still keeping time With Puck. We have Rachel who uses Puck to make Finn jealous. We have Finn out and out going after Rachel when she is with Jesse.

Hell we know Puck has drilled holes in the women's room. That's far worse then anything Kurt did to Finn.

Hell Finn did basically the exact same thing as Kurt did to Rachel literally after he complains about Kurt. Making unwanted passes and not taking no for an answer.

2nd season we see Rachel do this with Finn, we see Quinn do it with Finn. We see Santana do this with Brittany. We see Artie do this with both Tina and with Brittany.

Yet this is the biggest issue, and Kurt gets picked out for it? Seriously.

Does Kurt have bad qualities? Absolutely. Does almost all the characters have bad qualities? Yes.
 
Student-teacher relationships are hardly a new thing on TV shows. It happened on Dawson's Creek, for instance.

Heck, they did it on Life Unexpected last year! :)

Yeah, and look what happened to them! (Though the real depressing thing about that show was that Shiri Appleby is now considered old enough to play the mother of a high schooler. God, I feel old!)

I know what you mean, but take comfort in the fact that Shiri's character supposedly got pregnant in high school so she was supposed to a young mom . . . .
 
I really started to dislike Kurt when he started stalking Finn, Finn called him a fag, and then everyone thought that Finn was the most horrible person ever. Just piss poor writing (even though they tried to fix it). Kurt has never really recovered from that as a character for me. Just too dramatic and "me me me me me."

OK, Kurt was attracted to Finn. Big deal. He pinned after him. How many characters have reacted poorly to someone they were attracted to during that first and 2nd season?

It wasn't that. The writers were trying to make Finn out to be some horrible villain for rejecting Kurt's advances and even had Burt turn against him. They tried to retcon that later, but whatever.
 
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